Is Windows Update important?

To all those new people to computing please remember that no operating system is perfect and does need Updates to improve it. Windows 7 Updates are normally for two reasons. One is to improve use-ability and the other is security improvements and sometimes a Update will do both. Microsoft doesn't spend the time and money to create Updates just because they can't find nothing else to do with their time and money. They do it to make their operating system work better and safer. If for what ever reason someone has a problems with Windows Updates we are here to help as well as Microsoft is also there to help. Windows 7 Updates don't make a operating system perfect just better.
Once again to new people to the computing world; keep your Windows 7 Updated along with your security programs such as your anti virus and other security programs.
I check for updates to Windows 7 and my security programs at least once a day and sometimes more often.
This post does not apply if:
1. You own a miracle computer
2. You own a miracle operating system
3. You have computer knowledge well above us poor mortals.
 

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all I said was "my system has NO updates installed and runs 'perfectly' and is 'extremely' secure."

I never said that I don't maintain my machines, I never advised anyone to do as I do.

any analogies to vehicle maintainence don't apply.

and I never realized that a simple statement of fact would be so horribly misconstrued....

I feel so bad that I'm going to go out and kill myself...it's horrible to imagine that so many posters could read the same sentence and take away such a different meaning from it...semantics and reading comprehension really are lacking here...

am out!
 

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SALEON model 2.2b
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ASUS P5G41-M LE
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4 GB
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23" acer
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one SATA 250GB partitioned equally in half
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mini tower
well i have only just finished installing 15 new updates and my laptop is running faster than before ,i havent checked what the updates were ,but o dont need to , the fact it is running well and i know it has any security threats dealt with is enough for me.

tman, we're having a whip round for flowers....





































































sorry we didnt get much!

dead-flowers.jpg
 

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Hewlett packard/p6512uk
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600
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IIx4 amd athelon 635 processor
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FOXCONN 2AA9
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2x2gb
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ati radeon HD 5450
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(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) AMD High Definition
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samsung lcd tv 32"
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1360x 768
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(1) WDC WD10 01FAES-60Z2A0 SATA Disk Device (2) Maxtor OneTouch USB Device (3) ST310003 33AS USB Device (4) WD My Book 1111 USB Device
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?
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air!
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wireless hp
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wireless Hp,optical
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1.10mb/s
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MSE
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Firefox
I feel so bad that I'm going to go out and kill myself....
Don't go throw yourself off a cliff, you know.....like those furry rodents from the Tundra regions...the name eludes me now......:cool:
 

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Golden Mk. I.4
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Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
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Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
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Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
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16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
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EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
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Realtek Integrated
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1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
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Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
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Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
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Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
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Logitech G110
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Logitech MX518
Wow, I had no idea this thread would explode like it had.. I was just asking a theoretical question and was hoping for a mere 2 or 3 posts :p

Please note, I never condoned nor suggested anything in my question, so please don't go off the deep end here. I only wanted to inquire you guys about the importance of Update, because I wanted to know if it's an effort worth continuing. I understand that many here rely on it for different reasons, but I also strongly feel the need to sympathize with those who do not.

In the 4 years I've had my system I've always updated to the fullest capacity, although I've never really understood the 'why' of it. If my system isn't put in peril by Windows Update first, I'm not feeling or reaping the benefits--so it's like a catch22, and I can't be the only user who feels this way.

Not long ago my mom wanted my help with an Adobe problem she was experiencing, that was when I noticed a tooltip in the corner; Windows Update was hungry. I told her that she needed to update her system with it, and in return she gave me a very confused look. I honestly couldn't give her a very confident or coherent answer; other than it needed to be done, and that it would keep her system safer. Deep inside I really had no idea what I was saying, other than I continue to brainwash her into thinking this way, when I really don't even have a good enough reason myself. She has been victim to post-Update errors before, which has led me to become very hesitant in my advice.
 

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HP Pavilion dv7-3188cl
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Windows 10 Home 64-bit
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Intel Core i5 430M @2.27GHz
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Hewlett-Packard 365C
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6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @532MHz
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512MB NVIDIA GeForce G105M
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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Generic PnP Monitor
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1600x900 @60Hz
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298GB Hitachi
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AC 100-240V~1.6A 50-60Hz, DC 19V 4.7A
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Razer DeathAdder Left-Hander
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Avast Free
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Google Chrome
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Malwarebytes Pro, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit, uBlock Origin
Can I first of all apologise for implying that you gave bad advice.

Updating your system is extremely important, especially these days when more and more transactions of various kinds are done online. Updates are sometimes known as patches because they patch holes in the existing code that malware writers exploit for their illegal activities. Unfortunately, sometimes a patch can uncover another hole which then subsequently needs patching by yet another update (or even a complete replacement of the file concerned).

However, no code is ever perfect, and errors do slip through. The code writers and programmers (I'm deliberately not including malware writers here, only the good guys) stare at their coding day in day out and it is extremely difficult for them to spot flaws in their logic. It takes outsiders to find these flaws (or holes/exploits) and when these are exposed (usually by malware writers, although sometimes by legitimate coders such as game and application coders), the original coders get to know about them through feedback and various other channels and can then go back and re-examine their code, finding that the problem lies right under their noses.

How many times have you written an essay in English at school, gone over it again and again and failed to notice simple errors that are glaringly obvious to someone else but which are seemingly oblivious to you? I know I have, and it's the same with software programmers.
 

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Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
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Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
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Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
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ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
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4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
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MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
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Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
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ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
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1440x900
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OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
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WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
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XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
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Gigabyte IF233
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1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
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Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
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Avast! 8.0.1497
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IE 11
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Excellent summary Dwarf
 

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Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
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Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
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16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
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EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
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Realtek Integrated
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Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
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1920*1080 and 1920*1080
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1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
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Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
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Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
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Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
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Logitech G110
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Logitech MX518
Thanks, Colin.
 

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Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
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Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
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ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
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4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
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MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
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Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
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ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
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1440x900
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OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
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XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
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Gigabyte IF233
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1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
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Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
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Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
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NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
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Avast! 8.0.1497
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IE 11
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Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
Yes it was Guy, thanks.
Just a note, I did a full install with an SP1 iso today and I still had, I think, 121 updates. :confused:
They really need to do an SP2 for w7.
 

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Home Built Desktop By DataTech
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Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
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ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
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16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
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ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
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Onboard Realtek 5-1
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Samsung P2570HD
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1920x1080
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Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
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Corsair HX650W
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Inwin Dragon Rider
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Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
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E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
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steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
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48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
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Norton Internet Security 2013
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IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
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I am afraid we will not get an SP2. They want to sell their new looser OS.
 

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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
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Trackball mice
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DSL 6000
How many times have you written an essay in English at school, gone over it again and again and failed to notice simple errors that are glaringly obvious to someone else but which are seemingly oblivious to you? I know I have, and it's the same with software programmers.

Very good analogy.




*



As for updates; there are quite a few that find that updates aren't necessary since there PC 'works'. Security wise, they may indeed be 'secure'. What they also seem to forget, or don't realise; is that some updates also improve performance.

Then there are those who 'believe they are secure', when in reality they aren't.

It's fine to admit that you don't use updates, but its not fine to advocate that behaviour.


This lemming however updates regularly and recommends the same. At least I know when I jump over the cliff I have a parachute.
 

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8 Pro x64
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i7 3770K 4.6GHz
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ASUS P8Z77 WS
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16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
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x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
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SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
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x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
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5760*1200/ 1920*1200
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2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
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Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
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Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
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Noctua NH-D14
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Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
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Thermaltake Theron (Highly Recommended) + Razer Imperator
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MSE
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IE, FF, WaterFox
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Windows 7 SP-2 would slow down sales on Windows 8 even more so that is not going to happen.
 

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Home made Desktop
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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
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Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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EVGA Platium 1200W
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
IMHO, the best way to install Windows updates when available is:

1) Reboot the system

2) Do not do anything for a couple minutes. Let everything get up and running as it should be
(A good indicator for how long to wait would be when you see the little flag for Action Center show up. That should be plenty of time)
Then start the update process.

3) After the Update, reboot. Regardless if it tells you to, do it anyway.

I haven't really had any issue with updates personally. If its hanging at shutdown, it may be because of something else interfering.
This is why I always reboot before installing updates and after. You start your updates on a clean startup.
 

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Custom (Self Build)
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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Intel Core i7 2700k
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eVGA P67 SLI
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8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
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EVGA GTX570 SC
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XiFi Titanium HD
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LG W2453V
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1920x1080
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Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
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eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
Other Info
LG BD/DVD
I never put on all the updates at the same time. Even though it talks a little more time, if one goes haywire at least I know which one does it. If you throw them all on at once and one goes bad you will have to go back and uninstall them all and start all over to figure out which one did it

After I install one and it needs a restart. I check CPU usage to make sure it is not running the CPU hot or causing problems. If it is an Internet explorer or office doc it is doing it to I check out the program after the update to make sure all is fine. Then I go to the next one

This gives less headaches in the long run
 

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PC/Desktop
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Dell Computers
OS
Windows 7 Pro 32/64 bit and Windows 10 Pro 32 Bit/64bit
Memory
4gigs
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD and Nvidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 24". INC 19". Dell 22 ". Dell 17" & 19"
I never put on all the updates at the same time. Even though it talks a little more
Mine is normally quite quiet, not saying much ;).

if one goes haywire at least I know which one does it. If you throw them all on at once and one goes bad you will have to go back and uninstall them all and start all over to figure out which one did it
Click View Update History on the left side pane in Windows Update window to open this:

Failed_Updates.png

It shows you which updates were installed and which failed.

Kari
 

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Laptop
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HP ENVY 17-1150eg
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
CPU
1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor
Memory
6 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics
Sound Card
Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer
Monitor(s) Displays
17" laptop display, 22" LED and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI
Screen Resolution
1600*900 (1), 1920*1080 (2&3)
Hard Drives
Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media
Cooling
As Envy runs a bit warm, I have it on a Cooler Master pad
Keyboard
Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth)
Mouse
Logitech Performance Mouse MX
Internet Speed
50/10 Mbps VDSL
Antivirus
Windows Defender 4.3.9431.0
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Maxthon 3.5.2., IE11
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