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Mike Lynch

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I want and need to move to a different ISP OR whatever that will supply FREE Email service that will allow me to use MS Office-10.

Currently, I have MS Office-7 and my ISP will not support it, forcing me to use their WebMail that appears to be similar to Outlook.

I have enjoyed MS Office for years and would like to continue using it.

Please suggest a new home for my Email needs if you are aware of one.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 ...Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz8.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Two HP Desktops. One in the Laundry Room / Bed Room.
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 3396
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
Hanns-G
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA WDC WD40EZRX-00S SCSI Disk Device (2) HP Officejet Pro 86 USB Device (3) WD My Book 1230 USB Device
PSU
Whatever came with the CMT.
Case
HP CMT Black.
Cooling
Whatever came with the CMT.
Keyboard
Logitech K740.
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000.
Internet Speed
Spectrum 25Mbs.
Antivirus
WebRoot, Microsoft Security Essentials.
Browser
EDGE
Other Info
HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus.
WD MyBook 4TB.
Microsoft stopped supporting Office 10 5 years ago. This means it gets no security updates. I would switch to an email client that is still supported and that still works on windows 7.

Or alternatively, you could go with web-based email. Then you don't need to change your ISP.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 x64 SP1AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi
Thank you for replying.

I REALLY like the look and layout of MS-Office Email.
I have used it for Decades, starting out with RoadRunner.
Over +-20 years, RoadRunner has been sold to Verizon, Charter, Spectrum and perhaps ones I have missed.
Why Spectrum forces a User (the person that pays the bill) to upgrade their O/S and Email Client eludes me.
At 80 years of age, I'll be moving on soon and then they, Spectrum, will not need to worry about my Account.
If there were a way for me to just use what I already have I'd be very pleased.
If I had to go to W-10 and MS-Office 16 to keep the look and feel I WAS enjoying, I'd do it.
Spectrums WEBMail does not work for me.
If you think of a way I could return to what I had or upgrade into something that looks like what I had, please respond again.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 ...Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz8.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Two HP Desktops. One in the Laundry Room / Bed Room.
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 3396
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
Hanns-G
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA WDC WD40EZRX-00S SCSI Disk Device (2) HP Officejet Pro 86 USB Device (3) WD My Book 1230 USB Device
PSU
Whatever came with the CMT.
Case
HP CMT Black.
Cooling
Whatever came with the CMT.
Keyboard
Logitech K740.
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000.
Internet Speed
Spectrum 25Mbs.
Antivirus
WebRoot, Microsoft Security Essentials.
Browser
EDGE
Other Info
HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus.
WD MyBook 4TB.
I understand completely. I loved Windows Live Mail, and wish I could continue using it. Hope you find a solution!
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 x64 SP1AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi
How about W10 plus W16?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 ...Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz8.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Two HP Desktops. One in the Laundry Room / Bed Room.
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 3396
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
Hanns-G
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA WDC WD40EZRX-00S SCSI Disk Device (2) HP Officejet Pro 86 USB Device (3) WD My Book 1230 USB Device
PSU
Whatever came with the CMT.
Case
HP CMT Black.
Cooling
Whatever came with the CMT.
Keyboard
Logitech K740.
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000.
Internet Speed
Spectrum 25Mbs.
Antivirus
WebRoot, Microsoft Security Essentials.
Browser
EDGE
Other Info
HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus.
WD MyBook 4TB.
Does your ISP support Microsoft Office 2016? You can still buy that online.

Note Microsoft Office 2016 does work with Windows 7 SP1 or later.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bitsAMD FX-8350GSKILL Ripjaw-X PC3 12800 8GB (2x4GB)ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1060 6GB
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits
    CPU
    AMD FX-8350
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 (AM3+)
    Memory
    GSKILL Ripjaw-X PC3 12800 8GB (2x4GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ROG STRIX GTX 1060 6GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VE228H (21.5-in)
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 2.5 Inch SATA SSD (1TB)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 2.5 Inch SATA SSD (1TB)
    SAMSUNG 870 EVO 2.5 Inch SATA SSD (1TB)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750x (750 watts)
    Case
    Corsair Carbide Series 200R
    Cooling
    Corsair Hydro Series H60 (CWCH60)
    Keyboard
    Logitech Elite
    Mouse
    Logitech M510 Wireless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    Comcast Gigabit Extra (1200Mbps down / 35Mbps up)
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge, Chrome
    Other Info
    ASUS DRW-24B1ST DVD-RW (24X) optical drive
    Seagate Expansion Desk (5TB) external SATA/USB HDD
    Comcast XB8 Internet Gateway
  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)AMD Phenom II 960T X4Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro (64-bit)
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II 960T X4
    Motherboard
    ASUS M4N82 Deluxe
    Memory
    Corsair XMS2 DDR2-800 8GB (4x2GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS ENGTX560 DCII OC/2DI/1GD5 1GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 930B 19-inch LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1280x1024
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1000 GB (Windows 10)
    Seagate ST1000DM003 1000 GB (Windows 7)
    PSU
    Antec TruePower (new) TP-650
    Case
    Antec Three Hundred
    Cooling
    AMD stock cooler from FX8350
    Mouse
    Logitech M100
    Internet Speed
    Xfinity Gigabit Extra 1200/35 Mbps
They wouldn't be the first to restrict email clients. M$ has done it as has Google to a certain extent. They claim that it's for our protection and it more or less is. They don't trust us to take care of ourselves. Really there isn't anything we can do about it because authentication is done on the server end. You might want to look into Thunderbird. It should work.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 ProIntel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz8 gbATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    OS
    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF & Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x1080 & 1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD blue 1 tb & 500 gb.
    Browser
    FF of course.
    Other Info
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-elite-desktop-intel-core-i7-processor-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9921493.p?skuId=9921493
  • At a glance

    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Minti3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell Poweredge T140
    OS
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 750 GB
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
My question is, why don't they "support" Outlook 2010? What do they say about it? What happens if you try to use it anyway?

All Outlook really needs to work is a SMTP and POP servers (or IMAP) and their corresponding credentials, that's it.
Considering that even Google and Microsoft webmails DO work with Outlook 2010 when correctly configured, even if you have to jump some hops, I find it difficult that an ISP-provided mail cannot do that.

A little off-topic, I would not use an ISP-provided email at all to begin with. You may want to change ISPs for a variety of reasons, including better plans, coverage if you eventually move somewhere else or improved speed. Being locked to them because of wanting to preserve the email address seems a problem to me. I personally would use a separate service for email, like GMail, Hotmail or the likes, so you can eventually change them separately if you really want.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core i7-740QM8 GB DDR3NVIDIA GeForce 330GT
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Sattelite A665-S6092
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7-740QM
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 330GT
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 SSD 500GB
1TB USB3 external HD
Cooling
Coolermaster Notepal U3 notebook cooling pad
Internet Speed
3mbps ASDL
Antivirus
ClamWin 0.98.7
Browser
Opera 12.17 x86 (main), Firefox 38 (sec), IE11 (last resort)
SMTP and POP servers (or IMAP) and their corresponding credentials.

Yes, if I knew what they were I'd try it.

Here is the rub:

I ran W-7 Pro and Outlook-7 for years prior to the Hack.

All I want help doing is "recovering" to where I once was.

At the time of the Hack, everything was working "under" whatever restrictions were in place at the time.

If I had the
their corresponding credentials, I'd reinstall Outlook-7 and hopefully it would work.

I do remember from when I first installed it, it called for SMTP and POP server info.

That was over a decade ago and I do not remember what I needed to fill in.

"My kingdom for a horse!"

If anyone knows where I might find this info, please help.


 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 ...Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz8.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Two HP Desktops. One in the Laundry Room / Bed Room.
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 3396
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
Hanns-G
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA WDC WD40EZRX-00S SCSI Disk Device (2) HP Officejet Pro 86 USB Device (3) WD My Book 1230 USB Device
PSU
Whatever came with the CMT.
Case
HP CMT Black.
Cooling
Whatever came with the CMT.
Keyboard
Logitech K740.
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000.
Internet Speed
Spectrum 25Mbs.
Antivirus
WebRoot, Microsoft Security Essentials.
Browser
EDGE
Other Info
HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus.
WD MyBook 4TB.
You might try these:

For IMAP:

Server Port: 143
User name: your full email address
Connection Security: SSL or TLS (or none)
Authentication: normal password


For POP3:

Server name: your internet provider (ISP).
Server Port: 110
User name: same as above
Connection Security: none or as above
Authentication: normal password
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 x64 SP1AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 ProIntel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz8 gbATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
    OS
    Windows 7 pro/Windows 10 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
    Memory
    8 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware 25 AW2521HF & Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x1080 & 1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    WD blue 1 tb & 500 gb.
    Browser
    FF of course.
    Other Info
    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-pavilion-elite-desktop-intel-core-i7-processor-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive/9921493.p?skuId=9921493
  • At a glance

    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Minti3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell Poweredge T140
    OS
    Windows 2012 R2 Data center/Linux Mint
    CPU
    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
    Memory
    8GB 2666MT/s DDR4 ECC UDIMM
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 750 GB
    Other Info
    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Now why didn't I think of that?

Here's a possible solution: I see Spectrum trucks going past my house all the time. Maybe you could call Spectrum, and ask for someone to come out and help set it up? Or maybe they will help you over the phone. Worth a try at least.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 x64 SP1AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz6 GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway GT5656
OS
Windows 7 x64 SP1
CPU
AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ / 3.0 GHz
Motherboard
NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE
Memory
6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays
Lenovo LED
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
Windows on 500 GB spinner; Ubuntu 16 on Sandisk 250GB SSD; Bodhi5 on Samsung 250GB SSD; another old spinner for fooling around.
PSU
Original that came with computer
Keyboard
Logitech wireless
Mouse
Logitech wireless
Antivirus
Microsoft Sec Essentials
Browser
Vivaldi
Did you google it? I found it right here: Spectrum Email Server Settings.

Yes, those are Spectrums Server Settings.

What I need are the Setting for RoadRunner, which Spectrum "bought" from Comcast which were bought from Version which were bought from RoadRunner.

Why, 20 years' worth of emails, photos and whatever on the RoadRunner Server.

Thanks for the feedback.

I'll try and Google RoadRunner Email Server Settings "for MS Office".

Best regards,

Mike Lynch


- - - Updated - - -

This is where I was stumped: see Attachment.

I have no idea what the Incoming and Outgoing parameters are.

Spectrum will NOT tell me as they are trying to FORCE users off of RR, probably so they can Retire the RR Servers.

However, I have very personal and valuable information there.

I just want to retrieve it and then I'd be happy to conform with Spectrums Business Model and life would be OK.

Any ideas what the parameters might be?

I remember, from years ago, SMTP.

Mike
 

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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 ...Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz8.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Two HP Desktops. One in the Laundry Room / Bed Room.
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 3396
Memory
8.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) Intel(R) Display Aud
Monitor(s) Displays
Hanns-G
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA WDC WD40EZRX-00S SCSI Disk Device (2) HP Officejet Pro 86 USB Device (3) WD My Book 1230 USB Device
PSU
Whatever came with the CMT.
Case
HP CMT Black.
Cooling
Whatever came with the CMT.
Keyboard
Logitech K740.
Mouse
Microsoft Optical Mouse 1000.
Internet Speed
Spectrum 25Mbs.
Antivirus
WebRoot, Microsoft Security Essentials.
Browser
EDGE
Other Info
HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus.
WD MyBook 4TB.
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