I've heard all Windows 8 is, is Windows 7 with a layer on top of it???

M$ already has had to backpedal on an added restriction that was on Office 2013. Before they gave into public outcry, Office 2013 couldn't even be moved from one machine to another.

This is the most annoying thing possible for me, I'm a kid and I don't like going to my parents for everything and I go back to back from a laptop and a desktop. I might just stick with my copy of 2003 :geek:
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Mult...Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400S CPU @ 2.50GHz6.00 GBIntel(R) HD Graphics
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400S CPU @ 2.50GHz
Motherboard
PEGATRON CORPORATION 2AC2
Memory
6.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) HD Pro Webcam C910
Monitor(s) Displays
MAIN: HP S2331; Second: HP 2009m
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) ATA Hitachi HDS72101 SCSI Disk Device (
PSU
300W Stock
Case
Stock HP Dv7T
Cooling
1 Case Fan; 1 stock CPU cooler
Antivirus
MS Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome/Chromium
Windows 8 is an OS designed for tablets - not suitable for traditional PCs without a touchscreen.

Or even with a touch screen, especially if one has my shoulders.
Yeah right - it is an orthopedic nightmare unless you have one of those convertible Ultrabooks that you can lie flat on the table.

A conventional laptop or net book wouldn't be bad. It's the long high reach to a desktop monitor and the increased distance of the swipes that would make a touch screen murder.
 

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
It just means Windows 9 will be here that much sooner. :p
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i7 6700KGSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
The only thing is I am left wondering will my Kaspersky ISS still cover the second install??

I may get arguments for saying this, and you should really post in our sister forum (eightforums.com) for Win8-specific questions, but I ran into the same question but with Norton AV, and for now, an using the default MS AV in Win8, and have not had any problems.

I can "migrate" Norton AV from Win7 to Win8, but I still use Win7 and would rather not leave it unprotected. I also don't want to buy another Norton AV subscription right now.

So, what I would do (if I were you) would post a question in the Win8 forums regarding what folks feel about using the default MS AV product versus installing a third-party product.
Yes I should Mark but as the 7 was already on with KISS then sorta thought here would be as well but will do.
But if it means complicating things by having another AV on board then I shall rethink my options perhaps even put a totally separate drive in the machine and have 8 on it alone I suppose for the sake of just changing the hardware over probably the best thing I can do.
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap A...Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i...Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop...Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
OS
Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
I've been using Window 8 for about 6 months and I don't think I've seen the metro interface since the day I installed the system, after adding a start button and setting the program defaults to use the desktop version of programs, I'm left with a nice updated version of Windows 7.


This is the best way to use windows on desktop pc.. I upgraded my main desktop pc and laptop to windows 8. put startisback (tried start8 too but I find startisback better than start 8) set boot to desktop disabled hot corners set desktop software as default to open my files and I'm quite happy with windows 8.. but I still don't get why it is so hard to have option built in. why there is need to install 3rd party software.

things I like about windows 8:
It is a bit faster (tiny bit on SSD) but sometimes I can feel windows is bit snappier. boots faster.
I actually like ribbon UI in windows explorer. file copy/move operation UI is better (you can pause file copy, see real time speed graph). task manager is improved too..
 

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Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)Intel core I5 24008GB DDR3 KingstonGigabyte GF GTX650OC
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built PC
OS
Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)
CPU
Intel core I5 2400
Motherboard
Gigabyte H61
Memory
8GB DDR3 Kingston
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GF GTX650OC
Sound Card
Realtek HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
LCD 20"
Screen Resolution
1600x900
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 320 80GB +Seagate 7200.12 1TBx3
PSU
Coolermaster RX450W
Case
Coolermaster atx case
Cooling
stock cooler
Keyboard
logitech
Mouse
logitech
Internet Speed
FTTD 100mbps
I've come around to Windows 8. It has some performance benefits over 7. Boots faster, reconnects to networks faster, reconnects to wireless a lot faster, can natively mount ISO files, has Hyper-V built it, more useful task manager, and has event tracking within Device Manager...just to name a few.

I'm not into the new UI, so I ran Stardock Start8 and boot straight to the desktop. I have none of the new "apps" set as default apps. So, it really looks like my Windows 8 box really is a Windows 7 host. It works for me.


I've done the exact same.

Bought a Start8 license, put Windows 8 on and I'm loving it. None of the Windows 8 UI is in my face, and I can enjoy all the added benefits. I love the new UI on it. For me, looking at Windows 7 now is starting to look a bit dated.
 

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Windows 8.1 Pro x64Intel Core i7 4790k8GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHzMSI TwinFrozr GeForce GTX770
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 4790k
Motherboard
MSI Z97S Krait Edition
Memory
8GB Corsair Dominator 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI TwinFrozr GeForce GTX770
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DX/XD 7.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 24" S2409W + Dell 20" E207WFP
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 + 1680x1050
Hard Drives
1x 120GB OCZ Agility 3, 1x 750GB Western Digital Caviar Black, 1x 1TB Western Digital Caviar Blue
PSU
Corsair HX850 modular
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Corsair H60 w/ twin Corsair SP120 fans
Keyboard
Logitech G510S Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech G500S Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
40Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome
Other Info
LG Blu-Ray player
Hi there
Windows 7 is the BASIS but W8 is much more than just W7 with a different interface -- just like XP and Windows 7 themselves were based on NT but obviously with a lot of changes such as "Plug 'n play" devices.

W8 has a decent Built in Security system, loads of improvements in the kernel especially for performance where the Pre-Fetch algorithms have been beefed up no end, has a Native "Virtual .ISO" mounting system (no more third party apps needed after you've created an ISO on HDD either by "Cloning" a DVD , burning an ISO image to HDD disk or by downloading an ISO file, has a semi decent Backup system, decent encryption (Bit locker if you need it), file history system and quite a load more.

OK the Interface causes a lot of anguish but under the hood W8 is quite a polished OS.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and se...Intel i7 Intel i58GB, 16GBOn Motherboard
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built, several laptops HP/ASUS
OS
Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
CPU
Intel i7 Intel i5
Memory
8GB, 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
On Motherboard
Sound Card
Realtek HD audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Apple Cinema display, Samsung LCD
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080
Hard Drives
4 X 1TB SATA
Mouse
Toshiba wireless laser
Internet Speed
> 20MB up
Okay, maybe the wrong forum.. But I don't have Win8, so it's just one question.
Anyhow, I'm completely baffled as to how Windows 8 works under the hood. Every single app in Metro isn't even in the program files folder. This leads me to believe that the desktop is just windows 7, Metro is a whole different OS, and the two work harmoniously together. Is this about right?

Thats right it's two OSs in one, but rigged so that by default the main OS is Metro. Using Start8 or other start menu installers, you can change it so that it boots to the desktop.

Come on over to the Windows 8 Forums, we can help you with anything you wanna know about it. I love it, the desktop at least, it's much mroe responsive than 7. I highly encourage people to at least try it.

It is very similar to 7 but the Transparency is missing along with the start menu, also the networking area has been stripped down, removing the graphics that show how your Network is connected, and you can no longer Map your Network, something which I found useful - It's no longer there. But other than that, it's very similar to 7.

Windows 8 Forums
 

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Windows 10/Windows 7 (My Idea- Virtual PC)Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz16 GBnVidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2GB)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo Thinkcenter M92p
OS
Windows 10/Windows 7 (My Idea- Virtual PC)
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz
Motherboard
Lenovo MahoBay
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
nVidia GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2GB)
Sound Card
nVidia HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 4KTV 50"
Screen Resolution
3840p x 2160p
Hard Drives
Onboard:
Seagate ST500DM009-2F110A 500GB
WDC WD4000FYYZ-01UL1B1 (WD-WCC131910831) [3726 GB]

USB 3.0
My Book 1140 (WCAZAD122454) [1862 GB]
Apple MDT MD10EAVS-00D7B0 (0000AB123473) [931 GB]

External:
WD Blue Innostar/Matsunichi (465 GB)
WD
PSU
Stock Thinkcenter M92p
Case
Stock Thinkcenter M92p
Cooling
Active
Keyboard
BYTEC BY-GA-KT-100-AC
Mouse
BYTEC
Internet Speed
1 GHz Down, 40 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
EDGE
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I finally have an Intel machine that has more than 8GB of Ram.
My ASUS M2N-SE AMD Windows 7 machine is back to Windows 7. Replaced the AMD 4400+ CPU and maxed out the RAM (4GB).
My Core Duo machine is only 2GB of Ram and it is locked to Windows XP in order to run Pro Tools 6.4, which I have been using since 2004.
I have one other Dell OptiPlex 980 tower, Identical to this one,
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