Jan. 13 marks the end of mainstream support for Windows 7

[Layback Bear]

Kari I'm not complaining just trying to understand. So far I'm not doing a good job of understanding but that is okay. I don't have to understand.

 

[ThrashZone]

Who's complaining simply said it was odd :/
Besides possibly Microsoft is hoping to get email addresses of these pirated os'ers to send bills too for 7 or 8

Yea we get it Kari you like them all and we are all wrong

I believe most o that reply was for me jack

 

[Kari]

I'm just saying that it really is funny that when Microsoft announces that Windows 10 will be free, these comments start. Not possible to say anything about the price so let's start with this, how odd it is that also a few pirates might get a free copy. Anything to show how badly MS is doing it.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Thanks Kari for the update from Microsoft.

I still don't understand why Microsoft would want a bunch of Non-Genuine Windows 10 all around the world. Some how this strategy is not sinking into my 3 brain cells.

To me all it is telling people using counterfeit Windows 7 that Microsoft don't care if they use counterfeit copies. Hell Microsoft likes counterfeit copies so much they are going to give up a new counterfeit copy of Windows 10.

Non-Genuine = counterfeit.

My guess, I repeat, guess is that M$ is trying to lure people, even those with pirated Windows, away from Windows versions earlier than 10 in order to set them on the path to a future walled garden à la Apple.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...Besides possibly Microsoft is hoping to get email addresses of these pirated os'ers to send bills too for 7 or 8 ...

There's a thought...

 

[ThrashZone]

...Besides possibly Microsoft is hoping to get email addresses of these pirated os'ers to send bills too for 7 or 8 ...

There's a thought...

Owe shit I hope that's sarcasm otherwise I have to check to see if hell froze over

 

[Indianatone]

It could be that Microsoft is just being a little beneficial in improving the overall security on the internet. Yes their Windows will remain not genuine so may be if they can buy apps (programs) from the store the non genuine users pay more and may be if you have a genuine licence it cost you less? I can see it making stuff more secure. May be the version of 10 they get is the basic version and they are not allowed to change some features such as the search engine etc. I am sure that M$ just want as many customers in the store so the can charge them. May be this is how they are going to give 7 users what we want.....Windows 7 Pack...includes Aero and Windows 7 mode that turns your 10 OS into a 7 clone but with all the under the hood fixes...yours for $25.....

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...Besides possibly Microsoft is hoping to get email addresses of these pirated os'ers to send bills too for 7 or 8 ...

There's a thought...

Owe shit I hope that's sarcasm otherwise I have to check to see if hell froze over

Nope, not sarcasm. I'm not saying what you said is true or not but it is food for thought.

The last time I checked, Hell (a wide spot on US93 in AZ) wasn't frozen over.

 

[Layback Bear]

It just seem strange when the whole legal computing world is fighting counterfeiting, Microsoft puts their approval stamp on counterfeit Windows operating system. I don't care how one paints that picture, it's a blur to me.

Maybe counterfeit Microsoft Office will be next.

 

[Kari]

It just seem strange when the whole legal computing world is fighting counterfeiting, Microsoft puts their approval stamp on counterfeit Windows operating system. I don't care how one paints that picture, it's a blur to me.

Maybe counterfeit Microsoft Office will be next.

In my opinion that is totally wrong interpreted. Microsoft does not approve the pirates now any more than before. It's in my opinion just as simple as I said in my previous posts: the upgrade process is such that it unfortunately might make it possible for some pirates to get the Ten free.

I have enormous problems in understanding this debate. What on earth is Microsoft doing wrong by giving the Windows free? Which is more important from the consumer's point of view, making the upgrade so secure and difficult that for 100% sure no pirated Seven or Eight could be upgraded, or make the upgrade process extremely easy which includes the risk that some pirates might get it, too?

This really is a funny world. When Windows Vista, Seven and Eight were launched they were accused of being too expensive, especially if you needed for instance language packs in Vista and Seven so you needed to buy Ultimate or RDC host feature in Eight meaning you needed to get Pro. Now the Ten will be free and again we are having this debate.

 

[Boozad]

Which is more important from the consumer's point of view, making the upgrade so secure and difficult that for 100% sure no pirated Seven or Eight could be upgraded, or make the upgrade process extremely easy which includes the risk that some pirates might get it, too?

I'd have thought just making the upgrade available to people with qualifying product keys would have been pretty simple, you submit your key and receive a W10 license. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, I don't know. Microsoft have been so tight on piracy in the past I personally don't see the benefit of them allowing pirated copies to be 'upgraded'.

And this isn't a dig at Windows 10 being free either, I think it's a great move for all the legitimate copies out there.

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

It just seem strange when the whole legal computing world is fighting counterfeiting, Microsoft puts their approval stamp on counterfeit Windows operating system. I don't care how one paints that picture, it's a blur to me.

Maybe counterfeit Microsoft Office will be next.

In my opinion that is totally wrong interpreted. Microsoft does not approve the pirates now any more than before. It's in my opinion just as simple as I said in my previous posts: the upgrade process is such that it unfortunately might make it possible for some pirates to get the Ten free...

That makes far more sense than M$ deliberately allowing pirated copies to upgrade.

 

[andrew129260]

Simple:

Microsoft offers windows 10 for free. Anyone that know about it upgrades. The savvy users who know about it are mostly pirates with malware. Upgrade to free version of 10, malware (possibly) gone. Less malware-more happy customers everywhere.

For every pc infected, it usually effects 5 others. It is a malware war essentially.

It also is a way to monitor the pirated users, as windows 10 has super tracking built in. Eula states it, and even not signing up for microsofts stuff you will still be tracked now more then ever before.

Windows 10 is the starting of a locked garden like apple. To reduce malware, as official stores are where common users will get there apps. Those apps will be screened and less prone to inducing malware.

This is not a bad thing entirely, less malware is always a good thing.

Privacy however has not existed for awhile on the internet, but now OS themselves are now starting to implement spyware like behaviors in the name of making things more convenient.

Windows is also struggling in the market as a whole. They want users on a single version, as it is easier to deal with. They want to get away from the similar issues android is facing with fragmentation.

Honestly, windows 10 is a important step for Microsoft. IT will increase the companies reputation as a whole with the general public, and hopefully will draw some users back to windows.

IMHO, it will not matter. Most Users have discovered there cell phones do everything they can and need, and will not likely have pc's capable of running windows 10. And they will not upgrade. I know plenty of people that just got rid of all there actual computers and just have phones now.

And until malware increases mega jumps on the mobiles more often, they will keep using those instead.

 

[Layback Bear]

Andrew this is a good point to a point.

It also is a way to monitor the pirated users, as windows 10 has super tracking built in. Eula states it, and even not signing up for microsofts stuff you will still be tracked now more then ever before.

Tracking the thieves and then telling them. Things are cool, please get another counterfeit copy of Windows 7 and upgrade to Windows 10.
Because in my mind that is exactly what is going to happen.
The damn thieves and crooks are smart.

If Microsoft has to promote counterfeiting to get Windows 10 on the street their is a problem. It's that simple to me.
It's nothing against Windows 10, it's just Microsoft's methods.

 

[lehnerus2000]

I suspect that when pirate versions of W10 "hit the market" all of the "official spyware" will be disabled/redirected.

 

[alphanumeric]

Some may not know their system is not genuine. Their buddy down the street, friend, family member etc, "fixed it up for them". They'll upgrade thinking all is good. They may get peeved, but then again they may go legal when they figure out what was done. Lots of different scenarios good or bad can happen. On the plus side I would think it makes upgrading easier. And as mentioned, systems that were compromised before the upgrade, will likely be more secure after. I'm sure exploits will be scanned for and killed during the upgrade. Compromised system files will be replaced with the new Windows 10 system files. Then let those users buy into Windows 10 for a low price and get legal and safe systems.

 

[Layback Bear]

Let me see if I understand this plan of attack by Microsoft that some are posting about.

Some people will find out their W-7 is counterfeit and they didn't know.
That for sure can and does happen.
What does Microsoft say? We no longer care about counterfeit, here is a free counterfeit copy of Windows 10 to replace your counterfeit copy of Windows 7.

A counterfeit copy of W-10 is going to make the internet safer compared to a counterfeit copy of W-7 because their will be less infection. Well that would be true if the people that new they had a counterfeit copy of W-7 and now have a counterfeit copy of W-10 would stop downloading and stealing programs, movies, music and games and getting infected.
Does that sound like something that going to happen.

I like this one.
Once people have a counterfeit copy of W-10 they will start buying apps. from the Microsoft app store. I don't think that need any more comments.

**So now, all the people that stole Windows 7, programs, movies, music and games are going to have a life changing experience to being as honest as they can be because they now are using a counterfeit copy of Windows 10 that was given to them by Microsoft.

I really do wish that that happens but I'm not putting any money on it happening.

I wish Microsoft would of given Windows 7 away.
We would have less operating system thieves.
The computing world now be safer from malware and virus because Windows 7 was free.
Now the computer world be as happy as young children at Disneyland.

This has nothing to do with how good or bad Windows 10 is now or will be.
This has nothing to do with the price or being free for a year.

This has everything to with Microsoft putting their stamp of approval on counterfeiting.

 

[ThrashZone]

Smell test :/

 

[alphanumeric]

Let me see if I understand this plan of attack by Microsoft that some are posting about.

Some people will find out their W-7 is counterfeit and they didn't know.
That for sure can and does happen.
What does Microsoft say? We no longer care about counterfeit, here is a free counterfeit copy of Windows 10 to replace your counterfeit copy of Windows 7.

A counterfeit copy of W-10 is going to make the internet safer compared to a counterfeit copy of W-7 because their will be less infection. Well that would be true if the people that new they had a counterfeit copy of W-7 and now have a counterfeit copy of W-10 would stop downloading and stealing programs, movies, music and games and getting infected.
Does that sound like something that going to happen.

I like this one.
Once people have a counterfeit copy of W-10 they will start buying apps. from the Microsoft app store. I don't think that need any more comments.

**So now, all the people that stole Windows 7, programs, movies, music and games are going to have a life changing experience to being as honest as they can be because they now are using a counterfeit copy of Windows 10 that was given to them by Microsoft.

I really do wish that that happens but I'm not putting any money on it happening.

I wish Microsoft would of given Windows 7 away.
We would have less operating system thieves.
The computing world now be safer from malware and virus because Windows 7 was free.
Now the computer world be as happy as young children at Disneyland.

This has nothing to do with how good or bad Windows 10 is now or will be.
This has nothing to do with the price or being free for a year.

This has everything to with Microsoft putting their stamp of approval on counterfeiting.

It's not a counterfeit version of Windows 10. Where did you get that from? The way I read it, it will be just like any other install except not activated. Trial mode with a generic key that won't activate is my bet. You will eventually have to buy a license to make it genuine and activated to keep using it.

 

[ThrashZone]

Kari posted this quote,
http://www.sevenforums.com/news/358...tream-support-windows-7-a-12.html#post3028650