Last week ( August) Windows updates

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I just read somewhere else that some people are having issues ( such as BSOD) since the last Windows updates.( Last week)

I have Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit and thus far no issues.
Do I need to uninstall some of these Windows updates? If so, which ones? ( I am seeing conflicting reports on which to uninstall).

thanks in advance for your help
 

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I have installed all the updates on multiple computers with no issues.

I would not uninstall any of them at this point.
 

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Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
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1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
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n/a
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as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
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MSE/Defender
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Ms14-045

thanks for the replies.....

as of today ( Aug 28, 2014) I am not having any issues.

However, I see yesterday that the following update showed up in WIndows update.....MS14-045.

It apparently addresses the problems that some people have been having.
I have not installed this update since I am not having problems. Has anyone installed this latest update?

thank you
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
thanks for the replies.....

as of today ( Aug 28, 2014) I am not having any issues.

However, I see yesterday that the following update showed up in WIndows update.....MS14-045.

It apparently addresses the problems that some people have been having.
I have not installed this update since I am not having problems. Has anyone installed this latest update?

thank you

Yes, I have installed it on three computers with no issues to date.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1,
CPU
INTEL i9-7920X LGA 2066
Motherboard
Gigabyte X299-WU8 F3
Memory
64 GB (4 X 16 GB) G-Skill V Series DDR4 3200 Quad Channel
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1060 SC 3 GB
Sound Card
Realtek Onboard ALC1220
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Samsung S27E310
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 2 x 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
1 x 6TB WD 6003FZBX SATA
1 x 6TB WD 60EFRX SATA
12 x 3TB WD 30EFRX SATA
PSU
Seasonic X-1050
Case
Thermaltake Armor+
Cooling
Corsair H80i V2 Liquid AOI Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 2S
Internet Speed
200 Mb/s
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 13.1
Browser
EDGE (Dev, Canary, Beta), Chrome
Other Info
ASUS RT-AC68U router
Malwarebytes 4.0.4
Latest Windows update

PbCopter,

did you uninstall 2982791 ( previous update causing some problems) before installing yesterday's update?
 

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Despite the advice from MS, it's my belief that if the earlier update installed without problems, there's no need to uninstall it before installing the revised update.
The advice appears to me to be pure CYA - the new release is not merely a revision, but a totally new beast. Therefore anyone who had this installed (as I did) without problems should also have no problems with the newer version.

It's only if you've not either installed the original version without problems, OR not run a new Check for updates since the original patch was released, that you need to be careful.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
PbCopter,

did you uninstall 2982791 ( previous update causing some problems) before installing yesterday's update?


I did not.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1,
CPU
INTEL i9-7920X LGA 2066
Motherboard
Gigabyte X299-WU8 F3
Memory
64 GB (4 X 16 GB) G-Skill V Series DDR4 3200 Quad Channel
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1060 SC 3 GB
Sound Card
Realtek Onboard ALC1220
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Samsung S27E310
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 2 x 970 EVO Plus 500 GB NVMe
1 x 6TB WD 6003FZBX SATA
1 x 6TB WD 60EFRX SATA
12 x 3TB WD 30EFRX SATA
PSU
Seasonic X-1050
Case
Thermaltake Armor+
Cooling
Corsair H80i V2 Liquid AOI Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech MX Master 2S
Internet Speed
200 Mb/s
Antivirus
ESET NOD32 13.1
Browser
EDGE (Dev, Canary, Beta), Chrome
Other Info
ASUS RT-AC68U router
Malwarebytes 4.0.4
Windows latest update

NoelDP,

the description of this latest update from MS ( MS14-045: Description of the security update for kernel-mode drivers: August 27, 2014 ), lists know issues that it has. Would installing this latest update just create more problems. As I mentioned before, I have the previous updates installed and have not uninstalled any of them and I have not come across any issues from those previous August updates. I just don't want to add another layer of issues by installing this latest update.

I would appreciate you thoughts. Thank you
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
WIndows update

NoelDP,

Specifically I am referring to the following statement from MS:

Known issue 2

After you install this update, the z-order of the windows is changed. (The z-order calls the SetWindowPos function together with the HWND_TOP parameter.) Therefore, the windows of certain applications may become invisible or may be incorrectly displayed behind other windows.

Status
We are currently working on a resolution for this issue.

Notes
This issue also occurs after you install the following updates:

I looked under my installed updates and I see that KB2970228 is installed

thanks
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
It's CYA time ;)
MS screwed the original update, and it looks to me as if they haven't really worked out exactly what the problem was.
As a result they are - instead of producing a tool to uninstall the original patch and install the new one - providing advice.
If your machine installed the original patch fine, then there is NO need to uninstall it - simply install the new one as a normal update.

If you had problems with the original update, then it's likely that you had to have removed it to get back to a working system. That being the case, then the advice is irrelevant.

I suspect that a few people in MS will be wondering where their next pay-check is going to come from - this problem hit few people, but hit them worse than many other problems that MS have had with other updates. It' more likely that the losers are going to be in the testing area than in the programmer hierarchy, since it seems that a whole segment of users got 'missed' rather than just the (expected) ones with existing system problems.

The part of the article that you quote is actually fairly (maybe make it 'atrociously') badly phrased.
The problem as I see it is with Fonts being installed outside the normal Fonts folder - anything else is likely to cause much lesser problems.
I admit to being under the impression that if you installed a Font, it was automatically copied into the Fonts folder and then installed from there - perhaps I was mistaken, or perhaps there are ways around this that MS hasn't documented.

In short - if you didn't have a problem with the original update, then simply install the new one.
If you did have ANY signs of problems with the original, then yes, you need to get back to a stable baseline before installing the new one.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
Latest Windows update

NoelDP,

thanks for your help.

According the Microsoft's info for this latest update the following issue also occurs:

Known issue 2

After you install this update, the z-order of the windows is changed. (The z-order calls the SetWindowPos function together with the HWND_TOP parameter.) Therefore, the windows of certain applications may become invisible or may be incorrectly displayed behind other windows.

Status
We are currently working on a resolution for this issue.

Have you experienced this ( in Win 7 64 bit Ultimate)?

thanks again
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I've not noticed any problems - and this may only refer to a pre-reboot scenario anyhow.
z-order is typically a per-session thing.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus K52F or Lenovo B51-80
OS
Win 7 x64 Home Premium (and x86 VirtualBox VM)/Win10
CPU
i3 370M/i7 6500U
Motherboard
Asus/Lenovo
Memory
8GB - finally :)/8GB
Graphics Card(s)
it's an i3, dude!/dual Intel&nVidia
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6" built-in
Screen Resolution
1366x768/1920x1080
Hard Drives
750GB Seagate internal
Sundry external drives attached to other computers on the local network
1TB SSD on the Lenovo
PSU
n/a
Internet Speed
as much as I can get - usually on a dongle/phone, so <1MB/s
Antivirus
MSE/Defender
Browser
IE11/12/Edge/Chrome/FF(if I must)
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