Leaked: Microsoft Security Essentials (codename Morro)

[Dark Nova Gamer]

I've only been a member for few days and already fed up with people constantly begging for links when its right there on front page 99% of time.

Ahh. It doesn't bother me that much, if people want to ask let them. Freedom of speech =D lol

 

[holo88]

I've only been a member for few days and already fed up with people constantly begging for links when its right there on front page 99% of time.

**Off topic but how do I get a "Windows Supporter" banner under my name? or stuff like that?

make an a$$load of relevant/helpful posts. i think you get "Supporter" for donating.

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

make an a$$load of relevant/helpful posts. i think you get "Supporter" for donating.

I donated like $3 and it gave me the Supporter badge. Plan to donate more later on.. soon as paypal gives me my $2 back they are thieves!!!

 

[John Henry]

I've only been a member for few days and already fed up with people constantly begging for links when its right there on front page 99% of time.

**Off topic but how do I get a "Windows Supporter" banner under my name? or stuff like that?

Does it really matter to have banners under your avatar to show the people you are skilled or so? Or it's just a mater of fashion? There is no need to have banners or other stuff to show people that you are skilled and helpful.

 

[pestbest]

Hey guys. Do you all think Microsoft Morro is enough. It's the only security product I left on my computer after I uninstalled all my others. I use Windows Firewall and it. Microsoft Windows Defender is turned off. Safe enough? Or should I get another product? Recommend me a free product please.

 

[John Henry]

@pestbest: We can't be sure if Morro is good enough to detect viruses, but if you don't visit srange sites every day using IE, i guess you are ok.

 

[AlexT2889]

I think WSE1.0 is just as good as Live OneCare, I use Windows Firewall with both Inbound/Outbound blocked through advanced settings and I like to use www.playlist.com for my music and discovered trojans in multiple songs that don't play. Blocked and removed both when other AV programs or Defender didn't find anything for that matter.

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

Hey guys. Do you all think Microsoft Morro is enough. It's the only security product I left on my computer after I uninstalled all my others. I use Windows Firewall and it. Microsoft Windows Defender is turned off. Safe enough? Or should I get another product? Recommend me a free product please.

It seems safe enough, I went to a very questionable site (I wasn't attempting to test it but yeah..) and it detected a Trojan, asked if I wished to remove it, I said yes and it successfully removed it.

Its light-weight, that's the thing that is making me keep it the most.

 

[AlexT2889]

I think Microsoft should adjust the taskbar icon when it's running, the bright white/blue castle is kinda awkward and reminds me of Windows 98SE . They should just make minor improvements to the Defender icon and be done with that

 

[Charles Kane]

Hey guys. Do you all think Microsoft Morro is enough. It's the only security product I left on my computer after I uninstalled all my others. I use Windows Firewall and it. Microsoft Windows Defender is turned off. Safe enough? Or should I get another product? Recommend me a free product please.

Probably no less safe than any other product. Microsoft's reputation blah blah

I'm running it with one of the highest rated -Eset-NOD. Not free but runs in tandem very well and running till we see some reliability reports on MSE. 30 day free trial.

Or Fully free and very good - pretty much a favorite with many people here is Avast. Don't know how it sits with MSE. I'd be running it if I wasn't trying MSE.

 

[Slimy]

Probably no less safe than any other product. Microsoft's reputation blah blah

I'm running it with one of the highest rated -Eset-NOD. Not free but runs in tandem very well and running till we see some reliability reports on MSE. 30 day free trial.

Or Fully free and very good - pretty much a favorite with many people here is Avast. Don't know how it sits with MSE. I'd be running it if I wasn't trying MSE.

Running two antivirus programs at the same time is a bad idea. Use one or the other.

 

[Dark Nova Gamer]

Running two antivirus programs at the same time is a bad idea. Use one or the other.

Agreed, whoever thought it was good in the first place, was sadly mistaken.

 

[Tiber]

If you go here LINK REMOVED you can read about MSE and download it.

I have been using it since Friday and quite like it.

 

[tony roma]

thx Tiber, links are working fine! x86 and x64 versions...

 

[SIW2]

I will admit the results are a little... shocking, even for Microsoft's standards.

VirusTotal uses stripped down versions of the "Anti-Malware" tools. So, pitting them (the 40 or so stripped down versions) against a fully installed anti-malware suite (I use the term loosely), makes the facts even worse.

Digital Soapbox - Preaching Security to the Digital Masses: Microsoft Security Essentials: Road Test

anti-virus rants: possible downsides to morro

 

[Charles Kane]

The digital soapbox article (post 135) is bunkum. I have posted there that the whole premise that keygens and cracks are by definition malware is wrong.

In fact by their very nature they will often flag as malware (inserting code in an exe, "reverse engineering" an exe) whereas this is a false positive as beyond finding or inserting a registration they are doing nothing else.

In which case MSE may actually be getting it RIGHT by not identifying files as malware. They may be malware but the absurd tests done on that blog quite leave us in the dark on that question!

 

[SIW2]

Yes of course, the small tests done by enthusiasts are by definition not definitive.

Nevertheless, it is interesting that MSE did not pick up 4 out of 10 that were picked up by the large majority of the engines on Virustotal.

I am not sure what people expect of MSE.

I have seen post claiming it is "small" and "lightweight" - in reference to what?

I compared it for size on my machine to Avast - and it was certainly not small or lightweight compared to that.

It appears to be OneCare with some parts removed. Since, as far as I can gather, that was not generally thought to be particulaly good - why should MSE be any better?

MS have said it is for those who do not have an AV - e.g. the ones who think they are still protected when their trial AV runs out.

They have made no claims they will be investing heavily in making it substantially better.

If people who would otherwise be unprotected end up using it - clearly that is a good thing.

I see no evidence , or indication, that it is any better , or even as good as , some of the already popular free solutions.

 

[TheIgster]

I see no evidence , or indication, that it is any better , or even as good as , some of the already popular free solutions.

MSE picked up things that my AVG Free did not.

I so far have had no issues with it. Seems to be "lightweight" based on the amount of RAM it uses when it's sitting in memory and scans are fast.

Seems to me Microsoft has done a bang up job giving us a free product like this, but that's just my opinion.

 

[SIW2]

I'm glad it picked up something AVG did not - it may be the other way round in a different case. How can you be sure they weren't false positives?

Are you using them both together?

On my machine MSE used more Ram than Avast - doesn't matter much , what's a few mb of Ram nowadays.

I don't expect there is anything wrong with MSE per se. I just see no reason to expect it to be any better than OneCare was.

I suspect it is getting an enthusistic reponse from some people , because thay are enthusiastic about 7 - they immediately assume everything MS is fantastic.

They are not giving it away free out of the goodness of their hearts - they are doing it because they think it is good for MS.

 

[TheIgster]

Think you are making a lot of assumptions there SIW2.

I am by no means a huge supporter of Microsoft per se, but you almost sound like you are "anti" Microsoft.

AVG was installed on my system. It had been for quite some time. MSE was installed when it was leaked and AVG uninstalled. MSE found a few things that AVG never did during scans. They were indeed viruses from what I could tell.

Regardless of why MS released this FREE product, it is free, it works and it seems to be something that many people will use and will appreciate. I say good on MS for doing it.