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I have an MSI Gaming 5 board that currently has a cheap 3250 pentium cpu, running win 8.1. I'm starting the process of rebuilding 3 of my machines.


This MSI/3250 system is currently being used for an IP camera security system. ATM, it has 3 IP cams with more to come. I'm using Blue Iris software. The CPU is maxed out most of the time.



There are a few 1150 socket CPUs around (in example, here).


But I'm wondering if this combo (MSI, i7 4790K/16GB RAM) will be up to the task. I do plan on getting a few more cameras (bringing the total to 5 or 6).


Will this be optimal for my usage, or should I reserve the board for another use and start fresh for the IP security cam system? If start fresh, recommendations on CPU/Motherboard/Ram?



I plan on staying with Win 8.1.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
I will likely be upgrading the CPU to extend the life of the MSI board mentioned above anyway, but another possibility for the "IP cam system" is the 'hand me down' strategy, using the board/cpu/Ram from an existing machine that is going to get a rebuild.


The specs:
Asus Maximux VI Hero (1150 socket)
CPU i5-4670K
32GB Gskill RAM


The only possible issue I see is the non hyperthread i5 cpu.


Opinions? Can this combo handle 5-6 IP cams on Blue Iris software, (triggered) recording throughout the day?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
I don't see why not. I'm thinking the biggest factor in the computer would have to be the GPU for video rendering. That and perhaps the CPU.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
I think you overkilling. Most of the security systems on the market has CPUs less powerful than your current 3250 pentium cpu.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
I kinda figured that and thought a simple Nettop would suffice.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
The MSI with the 3250 at idle is about 85-90% cpu usage. When recording, it's 100%, and doesn't capture all the video. It could be the Blue Iris software, but it's great software.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
The high CPU usage is probably due to video compressing, but I think the main problem is Win 8.x
How much memory you have on the MSI/3250?
A light Linux solution is much more appropriate. The problem can be to find the Blue Iris software Linux replacement.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
The high CPU usage is probably due to video compressing, but I think the main problem is Win 8.x
How much memory you have on the MSI/3250?
A light Linux solution is much more appropriate. The problem can be to find the Blue Iris software Linux replacement.


16GB RAM, but RAM usage only shows between 1 & 2 GB. Also, I forgot to mention, but given that I was using the MSI onboard video, I thought that a decent dedicated video card would help offload some of the burden the CPU was having to handle. I installed a Radeon 7870 I had lying around. No change.


It's too bad Blue Iris doesn't have a Linux version.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
I just ordered an i7-4790K. It should handle this machines duty (I hope). If not, I may have to explore different software options. I'll post back once it's in and running. Thanks for your comments.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
I just installed the 4790K. CPU usage dropped from high 80s & 100% to 21%. That 4790 runs hot though. With the stock cooler, it's averaging around 60-65° C, which is about normal, from what I've read. Anyway, problem solved.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
With temperatures around 60-65°C at 20% CPU usage, you should replace the CPU cooler as temperatures can go above 80ºC with higher CPU usage.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
With temperatures around 60-65°C at 20% CPU usage, you should replace the CPU cooler as temperatures can go above 80ºC with higher CPU usage.


Thanks for you comments. I posted the temps just after I put the new CPU in. The temps dropped as it heated up and the thermal paste spread. I ran ClamWin overnight and the temps remained below 60°C. Blue Iris was (is) running too. Now it's running idle in the mid 40s to low 50s (again, Blue Iris running).


That said, This cpu (Devil's Canyon i7-4790K) is known to run high temps. I'm monitoring the temps with Real Temp. I don't plan on using the machine for other than the IP cams and occasional utility usage (i.e., HD diags, etc). I still may get a cooler. I've had the Hyper 212 EVO in another machine for years now that's worked out well. Those things are monsters, though.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
Update:
I just ran MSE and (with Blue Iris running) the temps got up near 80°C, with 25-30° distance to TJ Max. It settled back down to the 40s, 50s when MSE finished (Blue Iris still running). I quit Blue Iris, and the temps dropped to 30°C, which seems great from what I've been reading (this system is installed to a test bench rather than a case).


I intend to put this system into a case later. That's when I'll install the Hyper 212.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
windows 7 Pro 64 Bit
CPU
i5 4670K
Motherboard
Asus Max Hero 1150 socket
Memory
16GB DDR3@933mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R9 390 8192mb
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2415 x3
Screen Resolution
1920 (5760) x 1200 x3
Hard Drives
System: Kingston 128GB SSD

Installing to Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
WD Black 2 TB & 1 TB
PSU
Corsair CX750M
Cooling
Hyper 312
Internet Speed
50mbps
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