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RupertSodwind

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Does anyone know of an adaquate explanation of all this Live stuff.
There's Live Mail/Hotmail/Outlook, Office Live Workspace/Windows Live Office, Skydrive/Live Mesh/Live Spaces blah, blah...
I'm finding it all very confusing.

Lets take Mail for starters. I got Outlook 2010, Live Mail and Hotmail accounts. Which integrates with which - do any of them?

Then we have Office Live Workspace and Windows Live Office. Do any of these integrate with Office 2010? Where does Skydrive and Live Spaces fit in or are they something to do with Live Mesh.
Grrrr! It seems such a confusing mess to me and if I can't find my way through it soon I'm afraid that for me Live will be Dead.
 

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Windows Live Mail == Hotmail AFAIK. That's all I can expound on for you, since I stopped using them right about when they switched to all this "live" nonsense.
 

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Pugh Technologies
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W7 Professional x64
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977GB Hitachi Hitachi HDS721010CLA332
244GB Western Digital WDC WD2500AAJS-65B4A0
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The Live Suite of programs (current version 2011), are a set of applications that are Microsoft's main foray into the cloud,(or internet based computing), and include such things as Live mail, Live Messenger, and Live Mesh, (to synchronise computers over the net connection), it also includes Live Movie maker and Live Gallery which are media applications with some web publishing functions.

These are versions of the programs that used to be shipped with windows but now to satisfy the requests of certain parties (mostly the EU) are optional free downloads

Windows Live on the web includes live spaces and skydrive which provide online storage for any user with a live ID, (25GB+). This is either a Live or hotmail email address., that is also needed for the live suite.

Microsoft office live is another free storage area but for users of Microsoft Office and Live office is online versions of the regular office apps.

I think that covers it all
 

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System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
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    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
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    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
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    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
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    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
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    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
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    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
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    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
OK, thanks for that.
So, to summarize

Outlook 2010 syncs with online Hotmail.
If you don't have Outlook 2010 then you can use PC based Live Mail which also syncs with online Hotmail.

Office Live:
An online version of Office 2010 but you need to have the PC based Office in order to use it? They don't sync.

Live Office:
An online version of Office 2010 with the need to have the PC based Office.

(Confusion begins here: Live Office or Office Live?)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Skydrive:
An online storage area (25GB storage)

Live Sync:
Online synchronization app.
It can sync folders on one PC and allow you to access them from another PC that has:
A. Live Sync installed
B. Is switched on.

Live Mesh:
A combination of Live Skydrive and Live Sync (5GB storage)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not pretty and could have been made far simpler. For non-techies out there (most computer users) it will be very confusing. After all, it seems I've spent many years explaining to such people that Windows and Office are two separate entities and yet I still hear the comment from users with a new PC: "But where's Word and Excel?".
Trouble with MS is that they often are guilty of confusing people. Who's silly idea was it to call their browser Internet Explorer and their file system Explorer?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Inspiron 620
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium Edition (64-bit) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
8175 MB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 530
Sound Card
PreSonus Audiobox USB Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x; Dell U2312HM DVI | BenQ E2200HD D-SUB
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
C: 931.5GB | F: 931.4GB | H: 931.5GB | I: 931.5GB | J: 465.7GB
PSU
Dell
Case
Dell Standard
Cooling
Dell Standard
Keyboard
Dell Standard
Mouse
Logitech M325
Internet Speed
16Mb/s
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE
RupertSodwind said:
OK, thanks for that.
So, to summarize

Outlook 2010 syncs with online Hotmail.
If you don't have Outlook 2010 then you can use PC based Live Mail which also syncs with online Hotmail.

Office Live:
An online version of Office 2010 but you need to have the PC based Office in order to use it? They don't sync.

Live Office:
An online version of Office 2010 with the need to have the PC based Office.

(Confusion begins here: Live Office or Office Live?)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Live Skydrive:
An online storage area (25GB storage)

Live Sync:
Online synchronization app.
It can sync folders on one PC and allow you to access them from another PC that has:
A. Live Sync installed
B. Is switched on.

Live Mesh:
A combination of Live Skydrive and Live Sync (5GB storage)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not pretty and could have been made far simpler. For non-techies out there (most computer users) it will be very confusing. After all, it seems I've spent many years explaining to such people that Windows and Office are two separate entities and yet I still hear the comment from users with a new PC: "But where's Word and Excel?".
Trouble with MS is that they often are guilty of confusing people. Who's silly idea was it to call their browser Internet Explorer and their file system Explorer?
Click to expand...

Oh of course, there Live Spaces:
Kind of a social network thing for store of photos, music, videos etc plus a Blogging facility
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Inspiron 620
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium Edition (64-bit) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
8175 MB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 530
Sound Card
PreSonus Audiobox USB Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x; Dell U2312HM DVI | BenQ E2200HD D-SUB
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
C: 931.5GB | F: 931.4GB | H: 931.5GB | I: 931.5GB | J: 465.7GB
PSU
Dell
Case
Dell Standard
Cooling
Dell Standard
Keyboard
Dell Standard
Mouse
Logitech M325
Internet Speed
16Mb/s
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE
The outlook connector allows two way sync between outlook 2007 & 2010 and your Live or hotmail account (or both) not sure but I believe that it also works with office 2003.

Office Live or Live office provide on-line cut down versions of the office apps to owners of office and there are plans to provide basic versions free for all users with a live ID, which will be ad supported as will the downloadable lite version. There is also some on-line storage space for office owners, though I understand that this will be migrating to skydrive
Live sync provide on-line and off-line (multiple PC), sync facilities and replaces live mesh.

The file storage in live spaces has been replaced with skydrive, and the blogging service will be migrating to wordpress over the next three months
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Barman58 said:
Microsoft office live is another free storage area but for users of Microsoft Office and Live office is online versions of the regular office apps.
Click to expand...

Barman58 said:
Office Live or Live office provide on-line cut down versions of the office apps to owners of office
Click to expand...
Which or both?

Lets just hope that Google doesn't go down the same confusing route or we could end up with both Google Docs and Docs Google.

Barman58 said:
The file storage in live spaces has been replaced with skydrive, and the blogging service will be migrating to wordpress over the next three months
Click to expand...

Mmm... Doesn't get better does it.

Thanks for trying anyway.

Best regards

RupertSodwind or SodwindRupert ;)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Inspiron 620
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium Edition (64-bit) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2320 CPU @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
8175 MB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 530
Sound Card
PreSonus Audiobox USB Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2x; Dell U2312HM DVI | BenQ E2200HD D-SUB
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
C: 931.5GB | F: 931.4GB | H: 931.5GB | I: 931.5GB | J: 465.7GB
PSU
Dell
Case
Dell Standard
Cooling
Dell Standard
Keyboard
Dell Standard
Mouse
Logitech M325
Internet Speed
16Mb/s
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Chrome, Firefox, Safari, IE
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