Loading huge files - fast

JerometheGiraff

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I'm in need of some suggestions, I sometimes have to load files that are any where between 3 - 25 gigs. An SSD that is 1 TB is too costly. My current 7200 RPM drive with 64 Meg Cache is still somewhat slow to load files of such size, I was looking into a 10K drive, not sure if it will speed things up tremendously. At this point, not sure if there is a solution, besides waiting for the file to load ?
 

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Loading files from what source and by what means?
That may be the limiting factor and not you hard drive at all.
 

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No External Drives, all Internal HDD. I don't want to move files, I want to read and write files of such size, faster. Why did I mention 1TB drive, multiple 25 gig files by 30, you're almost at 1 TB.
 

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No External Drives, all Internal HDD. I don't want to move files, I want to read and write files of such size, faster. Why did I mention 1TB drive, multiple 25 gig files by 30, you're almost at 1 TB.
Oh. You didn't mention 30 files at 25 GB a piece. You said that you want to load files that are anywhere between 3-25 GB and then you said a 1 TB SSD is too expensive, so you can see how I understood it.

Anyway, yeah I don't know if there's a solution to this other than spending a lot of money on a much faster drive.
 

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Find something else to do while transferring? A 10K RPM HDD won't do it much faster than today's 7200 RPM drives. Have you ever ran Crystal Disk Mark on your HDD's? If not, download it and run a test and post the results.
 

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Maybe a NAS enclosure, 4 500GB drives in a RAID setup so you have 1TB of space?
Something uncommon is needed to keep opening 25GB files.
 

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What do you consider too slow?
I often transfer 3 to12GB files between 2 PCs connected via gigabit Ethernet, SATA 2 to SATA 2 and I achieve about 110-120MB per second.
From spinner to spinner on one PC, SATA 2 to SATA 3 I get 120 - 160MB per second.
SATA 3 to SATA 2 I get 100 - 120MB per second.
The rate of transfer changes. There are other factors at play.
 

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Able to load 25 gig files in up to 5-10 seconds. At a rate of 160 megs per second, is still slow.

I may have to live with it and find a way to down size the files, so I don't run into this, although even if I down size the file sizes are still 2-5 gigs max, no way around it.
 

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Geforce Titan Black
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Motherboard Audio
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25" Asus LCD
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120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD
750 Gig HDD
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850 Watts
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Mid-Size
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Logitech
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Logitech - I love logitech mouses
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DSL 25Mbps - Although extremely expensive
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Microsoft Anti-Virus
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FireFox 36.x
What do you mean by "able to load 25gb files in up to 5-10 seconds" exactly? Load them into what from where? 10K RPM drives MIGHT hit 200MB/s Read/Write on a good day. Not worth spending money on for such a little bump up in performance. You either need a very complex RAID array or SSD's to take the Read/Write speed of the mechanical HD out of the equation.
 

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if it's not a secret, can you tell what are you trying to do (i.e. what are those big files for, and why you need so fast transfer rates)? maybe there is a better way around the issue.
 

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Avira, free edition.
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Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
Able to load 25 gig files in up to 5-10 seconds. At a rate of 160 megs per second, is still slow.
No. It's just the limit of the technology.

I may have to live with it
Best answer

and find a way to down size the files, so I don't run into this, although even if I down size the file sizes are still 2-5 gigs max, no way around it.
Many video programs will compress video streams into .avi, .mp4, etc. to save disk space. However, I have found it takes more time to do the conversion that to wait for the file to transfer.

I would also suggest meditation! ;)
 

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EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
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Corsair Obsidian 550D
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Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
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MS KC-0405
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Intellimouse 5-button
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56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
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Firefox
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There really is no other solution, besides trying to find the fastest SSD on the market, which probably isn't fast enough, or accepting the wait times. I'll have to accept the wait times :)
 

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Geforce Titan Black
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Motherboard Audio
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25" Asus LCD
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1680x1050
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120 Gig SSD
60 Gig SSD
750 Gig HDD
PSU
850 Watts
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Mid-Size
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Logitech
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Logitech - I love logitech mouses
Internet Speed
DSL 25Mbps - Although extremely expensive
Antivirus
Microsoft Anti-Virus
Browser
FireFox 36.x
You checked out RAID? Add moar disks and run them as one to improve speed. Raid 0 is the fastest, but if a drive dies you lose everything, raid 10 and you have moar speed and enough fault tolerance to survive some losses.

If you have a crappy PC laying around (and an excessive amount of hard drives) you can add that at the software level with linux. Then you just need to find a cable with enough bandwidth to move data to/from it.
 

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5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
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NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
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Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
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Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
OP, yeah you are in the technology limitation, 160 megs a second is SLOW?

What are you doing, that it's a problem? [someone needs perspective, here you try a 1200 baud modem!! :roflmao:]
 

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SSD for OS: Samsung 840 Pro
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Logitech G11
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Logitech M310 Wireless
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100 Megabit broadband supposedly upgraded from 50 (Cable)
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Bitdefender Internet Security 2014 suite
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Pale Moon 64-bit main, also IceDragon, Opera, and Maxthon.
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There really is no other solution, besides trying to find the fastest SSD on the market, which probably isn't fast enough, or accepting the wait times. I'll have to accept the wait times :)
Until 2237 when we'll have bio gel packs as storage medium. No waiting at all and they hold exabytes of data.
 

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Home Built Desktop By DataTech
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Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
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Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
Well, that's from Star Trek Voyager isn't it?
Not a show known for scientific accuracy.

Although yeah, bio-stuff has a ridiculously high data density (DNA mostly), the issue is that reading speed tends to suck a bit as it's a loooooooooooong tape.
 

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AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
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ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
Well, that's from Star Trek Voyager isn't it?
Not a show known for scientific accuracy.

The original Star Trek predicted the flip phone! ;)

We are waiting for Quantum Computing, where (as the breathless protagonists tell us) the computer will have the answer before you ask it. (Verbally of course!)
 

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Home Built - Jan 2013
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i7-3820
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Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
Memory
GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
We have already quantum computers. They are one-trick ponies though. That is, they can do stuff normal computers cannot, but cannot do what a normal computer can. So they do just some equation solving for the moment.
Btw, Google bought one recently for its brand new Quantum Artificial Intelligence Lab. Likely to make smarter search algorithms, and not at all a world-ruling Skynet. :rolleyes: Googlenet.

the computer will have the answer before you ask it. (Verbally of course!)
Any smartphone equipped with Siri or one of its android clones can do that. Wolfram Alpha is another similar project (answers questions written in plain english) but does not listen/speak (not that it's hard to add anyway)
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom built
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
CPU
AMD Phenom 9650 QuadCore, revision DR-B3
Motherboard
ASUS M4A78
Memory
5 GB yes I run 2x 2GB and 1x 1GB, different brand, spank me.
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT 512 Mb, unknown manufacturer.
Sound Card
Crappy Realtek Integrated Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Fujitsu Siemens P19-3P
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 x 32 bits @ 60 Hz Oh yeah, 4:3 rocks!
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR S TM3320613AS SATA Disk Device (2) STM35004 18AS SATA Disk Device (3) TOSHIBA USB 2.5"-HDD
PSU
whatever, around 450w
Case
Scavenged from old company PC, 10+ years old
Cooling
CPU fan, GPU fan, case fan, nothing fancy
Keyboard
Microsoft, PS/2, white.
Mouse
Optical, logitec.
Internet Speed
effective max speeds: 70-ish kB/s down 30-ish kB/s up
Antivirus
Avira, free edition.
Browser
Firefox with FXChrome to make it look like Google Chrome :P
Other Info
Was discarded by previous owner due to "horrible performance".
Was running Win Xp from a IDE drive. Yeah. Was a pain.
SATA II drive and Win7 and it zips away! Yay!
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