Many different BSOD's when gaming or watching videos

[Flying Dude]

Hey!
Sorry for the delay in my response, I was asleep, then at work but I just read the posts now and my RAM is indeed in slots 2 and 4, the RAM itself is:

Mushkin Enhanced Slimline Stiletto 8 GB (2x4GB)
DDR3 - 1333 9-9-9-24 Dual

I have not tried booting with one stick just yet actually, I will try that now!

I am currently trying to get my computer to stay booted up long enough for me to take that screenshot so I will post that as soon as I get the chance. I'm not sure what XMP is unfortunately but I will look it up and let you know.

Voltages:
CPU Core Voltage: 1.060 V (was hovering between 1.055 I think and 1.060 V)
CPU I/O Voltage: 1.074 V (was switching between 1.066 and 1.074 V)
DRAM Voltage: 1.502 V
GPU Voltage 0.016 V

 

[Flying Dude]

Alright here they are after fighting through some BSODs!

 

[Dave76]

Have you tried to boot your system with one RAM card?

Was your system at idle when you took the snips?
Is EIST enabled?
Your CPU voltage is low for 3.8GHz.
Re-set your BIOS to Optimized Defaults.
Have you overclocked anything?

There are two newer BIOS versions, both state 'Improved memory compatibility'.
You should consider updating to version 2.7.
If you have not updated BIOS before, let us know before you start, a failed update can brick your board.
MSI Z77A-G45 Download- BIOS

XMP is a setting in BIOS that changes your RAM settings to a pre-set value.
Your SPD tabs don't have an XMP option in the Timings Table, this indicates it's AMD RAM.
It can sometimes be adjusted to work in an Intel system, the best solution would be to get some Intel RAM.

If you want to try and get it stable, you can adjust the RAM voltages.
CPU I/O Voltage: 1.150 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.550 V

Run memtest86+ for 7 full passes, with both RAM cards installed.
Best to run overnight as depending on the amount of RAM you have may take several hours.
If you get any errors you can stop the test.
RAM - Test with Memtest86+

 

[Flying Dude]

I'm booting it back up as we speak though I'm sure it will give me another BSOD again, assuming I can even get it booted up... it will boot in safe mode but I can't get it to run normally, it always wants to run this disk check and whether I cancel it or not, it just gets to a black screen with my cursor and goes no where from there until I hard boot it.

My system was basically idling when I took those snaps yes, and I have not overclocked anything. How would I go about resetting to the optimized BIOS defaults? I can update the BIOS first I guess and go from there, I have never changed any of the voltages.

I can actually use an MSI utility to flash update the BIOS so I'll do that as it's probably safer, though the fact that my computer will seemingly give me a BSOD whenever the hell it wants, I'm worried that something could go wrong while I'm updating. Unless, I use the MSI update utility through their 'Winki' OS and update through there.

As for the RAM, I am once again disappointed at the guy who sold me it.... another guy working at the store who told me it would work fine with what I have, how can I tell what RAM is good with Intel so I can find some?

Since I haven't changed any voltages before, I'm not exactly sure how to do it though I assume I can figure it out through the BIOS, do you think I should try and change the RAM voltages now? After I update the BIOS? Or even at all?


PS I have it running in safe mode with 1 stick of RAM in slot #2, been 10 mins without the regular BSOD

 

[Dave76]

Have you ever had a crash in Safe Mode?
This boots with only Windows drivers, so this would indicate you have a dodgy third party driver.

If your system is stable in Safe Mode, it should be ok to flash the BIOS from a USB/CD as it will run it's own program, not in windows.
I don't recommend any internet based BIOS flashing, it's generally accepted that a non-windows, USB type of upgrade is the safest.
When you flash your BIOS it will set everything to defaults, so no need to do it now.

If you update the BIOS, before changing any BIOS settings, test the system for stability. You can also run memtest86+ again or OCCT.
If you want to stress the system you can run OCCT.
OCCT stability checking tool
Run the CPU:OCCT test for at least 30 minutes, be sure to monitor your CPU and GPU temps.
Set the time before you start.
When its done, pass or fail, it will make some graphs. Post these here as they are useful for analyses.

Check the RAM manufacturers site, most have a utility, enter motherboard etc., and it will give you the RAM they recommend.
Try to stay away from any RAM that says it's for Intel and AMD, these usually have more problems then RAM specifically for Intel systems.

 

[Flying Dude]

Hmm alright, looks like I have some more shopping around to do...

And I have had many BSODs in safe mode, but only since it started acting up like this. With the one stick of RAM it actually hasn't crashed into safe mode and it's been running this entire time so it seems stable with one stick for now.

I have used the MSI utility before and it was fine but I can try and use a different utility with a USB if you say so, I'm going to check that site again and try to do so now, I'll post back as soon as I can

 

[Dave76]

Not a good idea to update BIOS on an unstable system, you know uncle Murphy.

Test your system in safe mode with one RAM card for a while, if it crashes, get the RAM first.
You can run OCCT in safe mode to see if it is going to be stable.
If you want to stress the system you can run OCCT.
OCCT stability checking tool
Run the CPU:OCCT test for at least 1 hour, 2 is better, be sure to monitor your CPU and GPU temps.
Set the time before you start.
When its done, pass or fail, it will make some graphs. Post these here as they are useful for analyses.

 

[Flying Dude]

oh noes... I thought in your last post you wanting me to run the stability test after updating the BIOS... cause that's definitely what I started trying to do and this is definitely what I have been looking at for the passed 20 minutes:

and I know I know I knoooow, I used the MSI liveupdate tool through the 'Winki' OS....

 

[Dave76]

I was asking about your system stability, never a good idea to try to flash BIOS on an unstable system.
From the MSI Forum, they all suggest to delete 'Winki', it's known to cause a lot of problems.
All motherboard sites strongly recommend to never use a internet method to update BIOS. Best is the USB memory stick flash system, no Windows OS running.

Best if you post in the MSI Forum, they will know how to get your BIOS working, if possible.

MSI Intel Core-iX series boards

 

[Flying Dude]

hmm it's still at this screen, pretty sure this actually happened last time and after a while I just shut off my computer then turned it on again... I think I'm gonna try that and see what happens...

And if it does work fine then I will definitely never try that stupid utility again and try the M-Flash method, after making sure the computer is more stable of course and running that stability tester that was posted

 

[Flying Dude]

hmm so it's seems okay, well, the BIOS anyway, but when I tried to start it up, jus after it says windows loading and before seeing the log in screen, it said that it needed to run a disk check right, of my main harddrive, but it couldn't because of 'recently installed software package' and gave me a long error code... then it tried to do it again, failed again, black screen with cursor.

However, it will run in safe mode fine for now, it recommended using the system restore feature hmmmm... thoughts for now?

 

[Flying Dude]

oh also, I was running the stress test but then I couldn't get speccy to work in safemode so I'm unable to monitor the temperatures at the moment, is there another way to do so in safe mode?

 

[Dave76]

Use Real Temp
Or HWiNFO64

Did the BIOS get upated?
You can check it with HWiNFO64, click 'Motherboard' on the main screen, or check in the BIOS.
Old or new, clear the CMOS, this will reset your BIOS to defaults.
MSI How to clear the CMOS Guide

Shutdown, disconnect the two hard drives, SSD connected only, reboot. See if you get the same errors.

 

[Flying Dude]

Alright I couldn't get any of those programs to really work while in safe mode, so I used my windows disk to recover the OS on one of my harddrives and was able to get on and run that stability test. I set it for an hour but it ran for like 10 mins and gave me this:

And no the BIOS actually didn't get updated afterall, so what would be my next step from here then? clear cmos? just update it using a USB this time?

PS been running my desktop with one stick of RAM normally on my other, older harddrive and I haven't had a BSOD yet, and when I started getting those BSODs lately I actually did unplug the other harddrives but I ended up plugging them back in as I was getting the same errors

PPS I flashed the BIOS properly this time and I got back into normal mode (not safe mode) on my regular SSD so I'm running OCCT as we speak, still with one stick of RAM in. I'm also trying to update windows too

 

[Flying Dude]

Alright ran OCCT for an hour, my system didn't crash at all or anything so I have everything attached. The CPU was running between 67-69 for the majority of the test. I also updated windows while I have it stable.

 

[Dave76]

Great news.

Both RAM cards installed now?
Did you delete 'Winki'?

 

[Flying Dude]

Well I have that one stick of RAM in still, but I'll reboot, put the other one in and see how it goes, I have not deleted winki but it's on another harddrive to be fair

 

[Flying Dude]

Alright, 2 sticks of RAM in slots 2 and 4, start running OCCT and like 20 seconds in I get this:

 

[Dave76]

Always post the full BSOD report, there are a lot of useful info in the other files.

This crash:

STOP 0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
Usual causes:  Defective hardware (particularly memory - but not just RAM), Faulty system service, Antivirus,  Device driver, NTFS corruption, BIOS
Probably caused by : memory_corruption
Could not read faulting driver name
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  CODE_CORRUPTION
BUCKET_ID:  X64_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_STRIDE

Change the RAM and IMC voltages like we did before the BIOS update.
CPU I/O Voltage: 1.150 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.550 V

 

[Flying Dude]

Hey!
Sorry for the delay, I have been away from home for a while so I haven't had the chance to change the voltages for it until just not, and I have it running with the new voltages as per your suggestions and I'm gonna start running OCCT and post back with results if that's okay?

I have like 10 more BSODs I got, including a new error code, which all occurred before changing the voltages as I was trying to get my computer running long enough to check the forums for the suggested voltages, but then I gave up and used my phone