Memory Conflict causing BSOD

[ScottCameron]

Hello,

I am having to write this from my mac, which is my laptop; I recently re-upgraded my computer to a supported CPU which my motherboard supports. I don't know anything else, but I get BSOD nearly every minute..

I cannot go on the internet, I cannot do anything. I get BSOD every startup, safe mode and repair.

I'm going to try to connect get all the files you guys need to try to help me; I just hope it doesn't get a BSOD in the process.

Please wait 5-10 minutes to see the attachment on this thread or post.

Scott...

 

[Jonathan_King]

Hello,

First of all, where did you get the new CPU? How sure are you that it works?

If possible, install the CPU on another system, and confirm that the CPU itself is not the problem.

The other most important thing you can do is install your old CPU again, and make sure that it solves the problem.

Perhaps I am on the lookout for this because of another thread I solved today (see here), but I notice your BIOS is relatively old. The old BIOS may not support the new CPU.

I checked your motherboard page: Foxconn Support - Download

Apparently you have the latest BIOS installed already.

 

[ScottCameron]

Hello,

First of all, where did you get the new CPU? How sure are you that it works?

If possible, install the CPU on another system, and confirm that the CPU itself is not the problem.

The other most important thing you can do is install your old CPU again, and make sure that it solves the problem.

Perhaps I am on the lookout for this because of another thread I solved today (see here), but I notice your BIOS is relatively old. The old BIOS may not support the new CPU.

I checked your motherboard page: Foxconn Support - Download

Apparently you have the latest BIOS installed already.

Hello Jonathan King,

I'd like to thank you for you post and support. Anyhow, I bought this on an auction; The CPU looks in great condition, no marks, no pins removed nothing. Everything looks nice.

The BIOS I have, is the correct one, I have checked on the same website you have and the CPU is support with this BIOS.

I don't have another computer with the same socket as I do, therefore I cannot try it out. I'm actually on Safe Mode now, and it works; As soon as I use anything, it will crash the application and stop it working. I can't figure out why.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Jonathan_King]

Could you try the old CPU in the computer, to see if the problems go away?

 

[ScottCameron]

Could you try the old CPU in the computer, to see if the problems go away?

I know the problem would go away, because I have never had a BSOD before I installed the CPU, and a few months back when I tried to install another CPU (Which I found out it was unsupported) I got BSOD with that too. Then when I put my old one back in, it was perfect.

The only thing is, my old one was a Intel Pentium D: 3.00Ghz, It's very bad when it comes to the latest games now-a-days.

I really could do with getting this working, but I don't see how the problem is occurring.

 

[ScottCameron]

Just a quick note; if I was to reformat my computer, what are the possible chances it would work? I'm debating weather or not to reformat it; But I honestly don't wanner loose everything all over again.

 

[Jonathan_King]

I'd say the chances are slim at best, as this seems to be a hardware issue.

Make sure that you applied the thermal paste and heat sink/fan correctly. On overheating CPU could certainly cause that. Along those lines, enter the BIOS setup program, and see if you can view your temperatures.

Also, create a Live Unbuntu CD: Download | Ubuntu

Load the Linux version of Prime95 onto a USB drive, or just download it from the internet once you boot into Ubuntu. Set the CD to be the first to boot (or use the popup boot menu), and select "Try Ubuntu".

Instructions for using Prime95 can be found here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-cpu-stress-test-prime95.html

I haven't used the Linux version, but I am going to guess it's quite similar to the Windows one.

 

[ScottCameron]

I'd say the chances are slim at best, as this seems to be a hardware issue.

Make sure that you applied the thermal paste and heat sink/fan correctly. On overheating CPU could certainly cause that. Along those lines, enter the BIOS setup program, and see if you can view your temperatures.

Also, create a Live Unbuntu CD: Download | Ubuntu

Load the Linux version of Prime95 onto a USB drive, or just download it from the internet once you boot into Ubuntu. Set the CD to be the first to boot (or use the popup boot menu), and select "Try Ubuntu".

Instructions for using Prime95 can be found here: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/100352-cpu-stress-test-prime95.html

I haven't used the Linux version, but I am going to guess it's quite similar to the Windows one.

To be honest, I've never put Thermal Paste on the CPU, I didn't do it on the last one neither, I didn't really think anything of it; Would that be a reason of it?

I'm trying to run my computer in Safe-mode so I can't get the CPU Stress test on. I'm sure I did it yesterday, with a different program and it BSOD me.

Again, I will inform you if anything happens.

 

[Jonathan_King]

Not applying thermal paste in and of itself won't be the problem. I will admit I never used any on mine either, and my temps are fine.

It's all about the temperatures; have a look in the BIOS to see what you're getting.

 

[ScottCameron]

Not applying thermal paste in and of itself won't be the problem. I will admit I never used any on mine either, and my temps are fine.

It's all about the temperatures; have a look in the BIOS to see what you're getting.

Okay, I'm going to put the Thermal paste to my last priority, if I cannot get this to work, then I will buy some Thermal paste later on.

I'm currently running the CPU Stress test through Safe-mode, It seems to be going very well at the moment I haven't received any errors.

I'm also downloading the uBuntu, and I will put that to a disk if I can. What is the meaning of the uBuntu may I ask?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Ubuntu is just another clean OS; the same effect as doing a clean install of Windows.

Since the stress test seems to be running okay so far, it throws doubts on whether the CPU is actually defective or not. It seems that a problem so serious would show up quite quickly on Prime95, if indeed the cores are bad.

If this was a heat problem, Prime95 should trigger a crash within minutes (if not less).

It's sounding more like a BIOS problem than anything else; is it possible you could get a new motherboard with the same socket? Perhaps visit your local PC shop; have a chat with them and explain the situation. Perhaps they will let you buy a motherboard, and allow you to return it if it doesn't solve the problem.

Again, we could be way off though. Is it possible you could just try the old CPU, to make sure it is indeed the new CPU causing the problem? Other possibilities include bumping the RAM, hard drive, zapping the motherboard with ESD, etc.

 

[ScottCameron]

Ubuntu is just another clean OS; the same effect as doing a clean install of Windows.

Since the stress test seems to be running okay so far, it throws doubts on whether the CPU is actually defective or not. It seems that a problem so serious would show up quite quickly on Prime95, if indeed the cores are bad.

If this was a heat problem, Prime95 should trigger a crash within minutes (if not less).

It's sounding more like a BIOS problem than anything else; is it possible you could get a new motherboard with the same socket? Perhaps visit your local PC shop; have a chat with them and explain the situation. Perhaps they will let you buy a motherboard, and allow you to return it if it doesn't solve the problem.

Again, we could be way off though. Is it possible you could just try the old CPU, to make sure it is indeed the new CPU causing the problem? Other possibilities include bumping the RAM, hard drive, zapping the motherboard with ESD, etc.

I was thinking through-out that, and I believe the same. A heating problem would of crashed by now, and I did burn a the disk while the stress test was on.

I'm going to run the uBuntu right now, and I will let you know if anything interesting happens.

Also what you was saying about the motherboard, I was thinking the same last night; I'm thinking about just getting a whole new motherboard and starting from there (Same Socket).

 

[ScottCameron]

Temperature from the BIOS:

• CPU Temperature - 51 *C
• System Temperature - 47 *C
• Voltage of Battery - 3.08V
• CPU Fan Speed - 2566 RPM

 

[Jonathan_King]

Temps look good.

 

[ScottCameron]

Temps look good.

Haha, Least I have something to be happy about then

Anyhow, I am actually on my computer now; sending this message through uBuntu. I must say, it works like sexy charm. The only problem I believe I can see; I try to install the recommended drivers of NVIDA, and it kinda; I'm not sure, but it fails.

Anyhow, when I use to connect to the Internet through any explorers it would crash, not specifically at that point but around that.

 

[Jonathan_King]

Well I'm glad you tried that; it makes the possibility that a clean install will help much more plausible.

Do you have another hard drive the same size or bigger than your OS drive? If so, you can clone your OS drive to the other one, using a Linux-based program such as CloneZilla (my personal favorite). Do a clean install; if it doesn't help, you can just clone the other drive back again and you won't feel a thing.

 

[ScottCameron]

Well I'm glad you tried that; it makes the possibility that a clean install will help much more plausible.

Do you have another hard drive the same size or bigger than your OS drive? If so, you can clone your OS drive to the other one, using a Linux-based program such as CloneZilla (my personal favorite). Do a clean install; if it doesn't help, you can just clone the other drive back again and you won't feel a thing.

Okay, I was going to ask you something like that; My main Hard Drive is 1 TB, the other one is only 300GB. So maybe, I will just copy the things I need? But; ever since I re-set my BIOS, my second hand drive won't show up?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Go ahead and copy all you want to the 300GB drive. If you can get into Windows, you can create a system image, and save it on the 300GB drive. Chances are, the compressed backup won't take up the whole 300GB.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html

Does the second hard drive show up in the BIOS? Does it show up in Ubuntu?

 

[ScottCameron]

Go ahead and copy all you want to the 300GB drive. If you can get into Windows, you can create a system image, and save it on the 300GB drive. Chances are, the compressed backup won't take up the whole 300GB.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/663-backup-complete-computer-create-image-backup.html

Does the second hard drive show up in the BIOS? Does it show up in Ubuntu?

I will try to get into windows, but I can very much doubt it; I might be able to go through Safe-Mode, so I will try that.

The hard drive doesn't show for, uBuntu nor the BIOS. I'm going to check the data cables and power is correct.

 

[Jonathan_King]

That would be a good idea; also check the jumpers on the drive, if applicable.