Microsoft Can't Sell Windows 8, So It's Giving It Away

[King Arthur]

You can easily create any level of cascadable menus in W8.1 simply via toolbars -- here's an example of a big one. You can choose your own pgms etc -- much more flexible than the W7 system.

Indeed! I've done exactly this ever since Windows XP. Combined with using the Start Menu as a fallback general purpose menu with everything in it, it is a very productive means of doing things.

 

[jimbo45]

I keep thinking. What does Windows 8.xx have that I want.
Booting a few seconds faster is no big deal.
A bunch of tiles to poke or tick. No thanks Icons work just fine.
A third party programs to make Windows 8 to work something like a computer. Not for me. Windows 7 already works like a computer.
A bunch of rent or lease programs. No no. If I want them I want to buy them and own them.
If I want something on my lap I can poke she will be over 40 years old ect.
I have a friend that just bought his wife a new laptop. All he mentioned to me was; his wife no longer wants to use the computer.
She uses it to pay bills on line a little email. The rest of the time it just sits.
She use to do news letters. Print them and post them online for the Post I belong to. Keep track of the Posts kitchen supplies and do the ordering and many more things. She use to help the Auxiliary part of the Post with their computing needs but no longer.
That is what Windows 8 did to a non tech user.
I tried to convince her into Window 7 but she is not gun shy.
She went from XP to Windows 8.

Hi there
for the applications specified here - a little email, some internet and online shoppimg plus payimg bills a TABLET or MOBILE phone is probably the most sensible sort of device. For this type of stuff one doesn't need a full blown computer anymore.

Even for playing movies a tablet is probably fine - especially if it has an HDMI out where you can plug the tablet into a large screen.

Remember when XP came out no tablets were around and smart phones also didn't exist.

Hardware has changed -- after all these days who even THINKS of buying an iPOD any more as their portable music player - or even an old cassette Sony Walkman. Most phones even cheap ones have a decent built in music player - and trying to find a phone that doesn't have a built in camera is all but impossible.

A lot of people probably would be better off NOT having a full blown computer - whatever OS it was running.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[Layback Bear]

She has a phone but bought a quality laptop to work like a computer not a phone.

 

[computergeekguy]

Um i don't know how work would take it if I left my laptop and brought my tablet.

Also why does crisis 3 look so bad on my tablet? I just cant get the frame rates out of it for some reason. Hahahaha.

But yes i can see your point windows 8 is good for paying bills and watching movies but why buy that when i can buy a computer that can do all that plus work high end video games, and yes be comfortable to me.

I must admit I like a comfortable os. I know some people who have xp. When i try to fix their comp and i forget their control panel layout is different. I haven't had to fix windows xp in so long that i have almost forgotten how to do some of the simplest things. Windows 8 was the worst experience for me ever. To fix it I had to search the internet to learn where anything was. Bing was laughing at me. "You cant find the control panel?"

 

[strollin]

You can easily create any level of cascadable menus in W8.1 simply via toolbars -- here's an example of a big one. You can choose your own pgms etc -- much more flexible than the W7 system.

Indeed! I've done exactly this ever since Windows XP. Combined with using the Start Menu as a fallback general purpose menu with everything in it, it is a very productive means of doing things.

Similarly, I've been using toolbars since Win 2000 and I'm surprised that more people don't use them. At a minimum, I use the Desktop toolbar which gives me access to the shortcuts/folders on my Desktop without the need to actually go to the Desktop.

 

[RoasterMen]

Nah, You need not use the cloud. And Bing is OK - or install Chrome.

Or FireFox in some cases if you dont want to use Chrome's GoogleDrive.

 

[whs]

I keep thinking. What does Windows 8.xx have that I want.
Booting a few seconds faster is no big deal.
A bunch of tiles to poke or tick. No thanks Icons work just fine.
A third party programs to make Windows 8 to work something like a computer. Not for me. Windows 7 already works like a computer.
A bunch of rent or lease programs. No no. If I want them I want to buy them and own them.
If I want something on my lap I can poke she will be over 40 years old ect.
I have a friend that just bought his wife a new laptop. All he mentioned to me was; his wife no longer wants to use the computer.
She uses it to pay bills on line a little email. The rest of the time it just sits.
She use to do news letters. Print them and post them online for the Post I belong to. Keep track of the Posts kitchen supplies and do the ordering and many more things. She use to help the Auxiliary part of the Post with their computing needs but no longer.
That is what Windows 8 did to a non tech user.
I tried to convince her into Window 7 but she is not gun shy.
She went from XP to Windows 8.

LOL Jack, I really had to laugh. You made some good points. My wife actually likes 8.1 after I cleaned u all the tiles and set the 3 tiles of the 3 prograns she is using. She never goes directly to the desktop.

 

[gregrocker]

NobodySpecial: I don't know why the Youtube stretched the window so much, as this has never happened before with Youtube and I can't get it to embed correctly. With just a link you'll have to watch a (MS) commercial.

But the video is an inspiration not for the reason MS wants as it's advertising jingle, but because those of us who have come up with Win7 since beta now form a resistance you are reading about here that to me is heroic, brave and imminently right.

We stand for the best OS ever, one which we helped elevate to the top and don't intend to see smothered in its crib.

I personally risk the highest award in tech - the Microsoft MVP - finally pushing back against this terribly wrong turn, in defense of Win7. But to me the award is worth nothing if what attracted me to tech in the first place, Windows 7, is not given its rightful place until it has a worthy successor.

Until then this is the headquarters for Win7, where we know it best and love it passionately. And we rock!

 

[nobodyspecial]

NobodySpecial: I don't know why the Youtube stretched the window so much, as this has never happened before with Youtube and I can't get it to embed correctly. With just a link you'll have to watch a (MS) commercial.

But the video is an inspiration not for the reason MS wants as it's advertising jingle, but because those of us who have come up with Win7 since beta now form a resistance you are reading about here that to me is heroic, brave and imminently right.

We stand for the best OS ever, one which we helped elevate to the top and don't intend to see smothered in its crib.

I personally risk the highest award in tech - the Microsoft MVP - finally pushing back against this terribly wrong turn in defense of Win7. But to me the award is worth nothing if what attracted me to tech in the first place, Windows 7, is not given its rightful place until it has a worthy successor.

Until then this is the headquarters for Win7, where we know it best and love it passionately. And we rock!

ok nobodyspecial agrees and thinks windows7 is the next windows xp and will be around for a good decade if not more i think it will be updated and extended past the dates shown on wikipedia due to demand customer is always right no

 

[NoN]

Let's just hope manufacturers brands won't do with Windows7 like eg: intel with H77 & Z77 chipsets limitation for Windows Vista. In that case upgrading hardwares for those keeping in mind Windows 7 might be quite tough.

 

[whs]

Best is to upgrade nothing. If you have a good working system, why go thru the trouble.

 

[NoN]

Best is to upgrade nothing. If you have a good working system, why go thru the trouble.

Ha!
What if you break a piece of hardware? Z77 boards begins to be rare to retailers, is coming Broadwell!!

As support extend to 2020 for Windows 7 i do not expect my system running that long!

 

[whs]

Best is to upgrade nothing. If you have a good working system, why go thru the trouble.

Ha!
What if you break a piece of hardware? Z77 boards begins to be rare to retailers, is coming Broadwell!!

As support extend to 2020 for Windows 7 i do not expect my system running that long!

You are not supposed to break anything.

 

[NoN]

whs...I which you to come back to Germany in winter as for a punishment! :shock:

 

[whs]

whs...I which you to come back to Germany in winter as for a punishment! :shock:

Well, in todays weather forecast for Germany they were talking about 22C for Sunday. That's warmer than here.

 

[nobodyspecial]

nobodyspecial run his windows7 for 6?~ years now without trouble no anti virus no malware protection just use brain and it 100% as when nobodyspecial install it only action i take is to make special reinstall disc with all my important things such as drivers and i redo this every 6 months i have ehhh i count discs....ehh too many to count haha

 

[nobodyspecial]

whs...I which you to come back to Germany in winter as for a punishment! :shock:

Well, in todays weather forecast for Germany they were talking about 22C for Sunday. That's warmer than here.

nobodyspecial take peek at his homemade thermometer/barometer/sling psychrometer/wind guage (yes nobodyspecial afraid of the weather) and it tell me it is 4 celsius brrrr i go put on another sweater because no need to put on pants

 

[gregrocker]

nobodyspecial run his windows7 for 6?~ years now without trouble no anti virus no malware protection just use brain and it 100% as when nobodyspecial install it only action i take is to make special reinstall disc with all my important things such as drivers and i redo this every 6 months i have ehhh i count discs....ehh too many to count haha

This is better handled by backup imaging, which will reimage your C drive in 20 minutes to the exact state as when you made the image.
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
Macrium - Image your system

 

[whs]

This is my more recent Macrium tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html?ltr=I

 

[nobodyspecial]

This is my more recent Macrium tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html?ltr=I

.much thanks whs i have put it on my primary task list of objectives to look at and since you seem knowledgeable in this program i may return with questions
.i will try on a secondary pc first as my primary is my baby and secondary is test machine :] thank you have good day