Microsoft: here's the new reality of Windows patches

Since most of us have windows for a number of years and have had many MS fixes and patches, it might not be worth WU at all. They have a virus/patch and who knows where they will hide it? Since our 7's are running great (service pack, etc), just forgo any changes to it. The only exceptions are Security Essentials, drivers and anti-virus, but the last two are not exclusive to MS.

Update: MSFU uploaded security essentials EVENTHOUGH I have :"check for updates but let me choose..."
Here is the answer to this from MS's website:

Required Updates
If you turn on the Update Services, in order for them to properly function some software components on your system that make up or are directly related to the Update Services will need to be updated from time to time. These updates must be performed before the service can check for, download, or install other updates. These required updates fix errors, provide ongoing improvements, and maintain compatibility with the Microsoft servers that support the service. If the Update Services are turned off, you will not receive these updates.

Onward to "never check for updates".
 

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win7 64bit Pro2.48G
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win7 64bit Pro
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2.4
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8G
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1T SSD
Since most of us have windows for a number of years and have had many MS fixes and patches, it might not be worth WU at all. They have a virus/patch and who knows where they will hide it? Since our 7's are running great (service pack, etc), just forgo any changes to it. The only exceptions are Windows Defender, drivers and anti-virus, but the last two are not exclusive to MS.

This must be the stupidest piece of advice I've read in a long time, Protect yourself from an alleged threat to your data by opening up your system to any future exploits that can take all your data :rolleyes:
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Releas...Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
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    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
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    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
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    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
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    Asus Prime X570-Pro
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    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
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    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
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    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
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    Dell XPS 17 10750H
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    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
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    Dell XPS
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    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
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    Backlit + Various Logitech
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    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
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Yep a bit rash turning off checking for updates
I used MSE for a number of years and now using Panda
After which even action center said it's not recommended to have 2 antivirus programs running which I suppose windows defender is the second and action center said the same,
So I did turn off defender

I have not had MSE re-download
In win-10 installing Panda did automatically turn defender off or at least the installation of Panda defender was turned off
So I don't see that as a problem since even the "latest and greatest 10" did the same ;)
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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MSE always updates regardless of the windows update settings.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell All in one Inspiron 2020
OS
W10 32 bit, XUbuntu 18.xx 64 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1620T @ 2.40GHz, 2400 Mhz
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Dell
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD graphics
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High Definition Audio Device
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20 inch Screen
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W7=1280 x 720 & Linux Mint Xfce=1360 x 768
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500 GB hard drive
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Usb
Mouse
Usb
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High-Speed
Antivirus
MSE
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Main Browser Firefox
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I have done a clean install of Windows 7 using Dell re-installation disk (Dell sent me one). I also use Free Macrium reflect backup and restore.
MSE always updates regardless of the windows update settings.

Not always. One of the reasons I got rid of it was it wouldn't update unless I did it manually.
 

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Custom Build
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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
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Intel i7-3930K
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ASUS P9X79 WS
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Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
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MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
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Asus Xonar Essence STX
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3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
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1920 x 1080, ?
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Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
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Corsair HX750w
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Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
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Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
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Logitech G510s
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Logitech M525 (two in use)
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AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
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IE11
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MSE always updates regardless of the windows update settings.

Thanks, if its MSE only no problem, but until things clear up, all WU are on hold/review.
 

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win7 64bit Pro2.48G
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Lenovo
OS
win7 64bit Pro
CPU
2.4
Memory
8G
Hard Drives
1T SSD

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Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20GHz8GGX550 Ti
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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Build
OS
Windows 7 Professional X64 Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.20GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P
Memory
8G
Graphics Card(s)
GX550 Ti
Sound Card
On board
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Asus VW246H & Syncmaster 2243swx
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 & 1920x1080
Hard Drives
M4-CT128 SSD2, Samsung 840 256GB, 1 WDC 1TB
PSU
Corsair TX750W-V2
Case
Antec
Cooling
2 120mm fan
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 3050
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless 5000
Internet Speed
72/6Mbs (Cable)
Other Info
Asus AC1900 router, 8 port Trendnet Switch - Logitech Webcam Pro 9000
Since most of us have windows for a number of years and have had many MS fixes and patches, it might not be worth WU at all. They have a virus/patch and who knows where they will hide it? Since our 7's are running great (service pack, etc), just forgo any changes to it. The only exceptions are Windows Defender, drivers and anti-virus, but the last two are not exclusive to MS.

This must be the stupidest piece of advice I've read in a long time, Protect yourself from an alleged threat to your data by opening up your system to any future exploits that can take all your data :rolleyes:

:ditto:

I would never recommend turning off Security programs updates and that includes Windows 7 Updates.

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When MSE is installed in Windows 7 it should turn off Defender.
You should not have both running at the same time.

Just type Defender in the search off of the Start Orb, tick on Defender and will tell you whether it is turned off.

Just for information.
I can download updates of MSE just by using MSE or I can get MSE updates through Windows 7 Updates. I use both methods. Manually of course.
 

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Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pr...Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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