Microsoft Moving Forward?

cclloyd9785

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It just came to me today...

That People would be more inclined to buy PCs over Macs if Microsoft designed their own computers just like Apple, and have unique features, instead of just designing the software to be used on other manufacturers hardware.

Do you guys agree?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite L505D-S9565
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64
CPU
AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core 2.1 GHz
Motherboard
Toshiba Built-In with Insyde H20 BIOS 1.40
Memory
4 GB DDR2 800 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD Mobility 3100 Graphics 256MB to 1468 MB Shared
Sound Card
Realtek Mobile ALC272 HD Audio
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15.6" TFT LCD with TruBrite, Samsung 1080p HDTV
Screen Resolution
1366x768, 1920x1080
Hard Drives
❶:Main: Toshiba 250 GB SATA 5400 RPM
PSU
N/A
Case
N/A
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Built-in/Open window in winter :P
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Built-in
Mouse
Build-in Symantics SmartTouch Pad
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55 MB/sec Down, 9 MB/sec Up
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❷:Backup: Seagate FreeAgent Desk USB 2.0 5400 RPM
❸:Media: Toshiba 640 GB USB 2.0 5400 RPM Portable Edition
Designing the computer is probably not enough if you still were using stock parts. But if they were develping their own chips, they could put parts of the OS into microcode. That would certainly give them an edge in performance and function. But running a chip factory and chip development is a BIG undertaking.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
People don't just buy Macs because they're forced to (As in, they buy from Apple since only they sell OSX-based computers). They buy Macs because they are, or at least seem to be self-sustaining. They don't need to be defragmented. There are only a handful of viruses, so no anti-virus needed, and they come with pretty good software straight out of the box. They are overpriced, but that's just because they pack in a lot of hardware. Accelerometer, light sensor, bluetooth, etc. I know that this isn't true in general, but the people that I know personally that use Macs are the people who think that PCs are too complicated to use.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97
Memory
8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition
Sound Card
VIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
1TB - Primary
160GB - Secondary
250GB - External backup for important files
PSU
OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU
Case
ASUS
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Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
3 Mbps/768 kbps
Microsoft has enough problems with anti-trust and monopoly suits. Why add more to it's problems by making computers?
Ken
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 980
OS
Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1
CPU
Intel i7-2600
Memory
8 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce gt 520
Monitor(s) Displays
LG & Acer
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Internet Speed
Fios 45/35
Other Info
Windows Home Server
I think MS should buy AMD and give Apple and Intel some competition. They could probably buy them with petty cash.

Jim :geek:
 

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PC/Desktop
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Home Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100T
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0
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Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular
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Corsair 400R
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Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm
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Logitech K120
Mouse
Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad
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15MB
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Norton IS 2013, Malwarebytes Pro Beta 2
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IE-11, FF-27
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APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner
Why not just by Apple and be done with it.:sarc:

ken
 

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Dell Optiplex 980
OS
Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1
CPU
Intel i7-2600
Memory
8 Gig
Graphics Card(s)
Geforce gt 520
Monitor(s) Displays
LG & Acer
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Internet Speed
Fios 45/35
Other Info
Windows Home Server
It just came to me today...

That People would be more inclined to buy PCs over Macs if Microsoft designed their own computers just like Apple, and have unique features, instead of just designing the software to be used on other manufacturers hardware.

Do you guys agree?

But people are already more inclined to buy a PC, that's why apple overpriced junk only has such a tiny market share.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 11
I thought MS did own a percentage of apple.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
Memory
GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
Sound Card
On board RealTek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
Screen Resolution
1600 X 900
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB
PSU
Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
Case
Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower
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Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Razor DeathAdder
Internet Speed
50/5 Mbps UL/DL
Other Info
Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800
Only a matter of time before Google starts building PCs. Uh Oh! :worried:
 

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OS
Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
i suppose you could say that an xbox is a microsoft computer 'with unique features'.

i don't know the current sales figures, but i dare say that they've sold a fair few worldwide.
 

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mickey megabyte 1234
OS
ultimate 64 sp1
CPU
i5 2500K [email protected]
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MSI P67A-GD53
Memory
8 gigs GSkill Ripjaws 1600
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amd hd6950
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creative x-fi gamer
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samsung 24"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
ocz vertex 2e 60 gig, samsung f3 1tb, buffalo 2tb ext
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antec 550
Case
antec three hundred
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i'm a cooling fan
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saitek eclipse ii
Mouse
logitech g3
Internet Speed
about 4 Mbps
Other Info
i love win7
What if Apple sold their operating system to run on any PC? That would make them a more affordable option and true competition for Micosoft.
As for Microsoft building hardware..not going to happen, they lost a whole load of cash with the first Xbox and then with teh RROD on the 360's they took ages to break even.
I do believe that more people will be switching to Linux in the next few years especially when Google OS is based on it. Smart phones, netbooks and servers all run on Linux, like with Apple you do not need antivirus, it's FREE easy to install and use and there is a distro (Version) for just about every bodies needs.
 

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OS
Win7 7600 x64
Memory
8gig
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia
Monitor(s) Displays
dual wide screen 22inch each
Hard Drives
2x 500gig
Well you can run OSX on most Intel machines. It's just that we, the third party are responsible for compatibility.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97
Memory
8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition
Sound Card
VIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
1TB - Primary
160GB - Secondary
250GB - External backup for important files
PSU
OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU
Case
ASUS
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
3 Mbps/768 kbps
Apple are a hardware manufacturer that include an embedded OS in the form of OSX. They are not realy a software company. I'm not sure of the actual figures but I believe that if it was not for the iPod revolution apple would probably be a part of the history of personal computing, by now. Steve Jobs himself has described apple as a multimedia company rather than a computer company

Microsoft are a true software based company who have toyed with hardware, in an attemp to broaden their markets. Whilst Microsoft has the skills to produce an operating system that is compatible with the majority of hardware, they do not have the skills to compete in the hardware market. The same applies for Apple in the software area.

Too much diversification by either would I believe lead to a "jack of all trades master of none" scenario, which would be bad for the industry and the users
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
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    BitDefender Total Security Pro
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    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
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    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Apple is making the same mistake with computers that they are with their phones. I like the iPhone, but Google's strategy is a lot smarter. They build relationships with hardware manufacturers, splitting costs and expanding themselves. People love OSX but no one should have to buy an overpriced piece of hardware to that's tied to it.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Enterprise 64-bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 3.0GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M5A97
Memory
8GB G-Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1333
Graphics Card(s)
PNY GeForce 460 GTX 1GB OC - Enthusiast Edition
Sound Card
VIA High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19"
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
1TB - Primary
160GB - Secondary
250GB - External backup for important files
PSU
OCZ Fata1ty 700W Modular PSU
Case
ASUS
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000
Mouse
Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000
Internet Speed
3 Mbps/768 kbps
Only a matter of time before Google starts building PCs. Uh Oh! :worried:

i look forward to that day... if googles past record is anything to go by, it will be fairly priced and will work very well, and this is coming from someone who isn't actually a google fanboy... but i do like the way they do things
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Medion Erazer (note to self: insert model number) - with custom additions
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i5 7400 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
OEM supllied with PC
Memory
8GB 2133Mhz DDR4 (OEM supplied)
Graphics Card(s)
Gygabyte Windforce GTX 1050Ti (Factory Overclocked)
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer Al1980 + HKC
Screen Resolution
1360*768(HKC) / 1280*1024(Acer)
Hard Drives
1TB Toshiba
1TB WD Caviar Green
120GB Samsung Evo 840
PSU
OEM supplied (no power rating on case)
Case
OEM Supplied
Cooling
Stock
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless
Mouse
Logitect Wireless
Internet Speed
40Mb/s Down 10Mb/s Up
Antivirus
Defender
Browser
Firefox
Only a matter of time before Google starts building PCs. Uh Oh! :worried:

i look forward to that day... if googles past record is anything to go by, it will be fairly priced and will work very well, and this is coming from someone who isn't actually a google fanboy... but i do like the way they do things


Cue litigation ;)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
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