Microsoft posts video of customers criticizing OpenOffice

[Benjamin Hall]

Free trials of office.. haha, people would keep installing them over and over like they do Adobe products

 

[n0th1n9]

You guys need to differentiate between business application and personal uses. I believe that this video makes a good point in business perspective, in that; consistency is the key to efficiency and by standardizing your apps you can achieve a more efficient working environment.

 

[WiGGyRedLinR]

It's beyond silly, because I'm sure OpenOffice can find 16 customers who will swear they saved money dropping MS.

I'll be 17 !!! , use OpenOffice now & then , NEVER a problem , used Word for awhile IT ATE THE CPU ! The video refered to above would be more convincing if it didn't run like crap too !

 

[Tepid]

used Word for awhile IT ATE THE CPU

I see, and that would be Word's fault without a doubt and not a problem with your system.
If you say so, then it must be true for everyone.

 

[madtownidiot]

The difference between free or open source and proprietary applications is mainly that in proprietary applications there are several layers of anticopy protection code that has to be processed with every operation in order to use proprietary software, which makes it inherently inefficient. There is absolutely nothing wrong with open source software except that microsoft and other for-profit software devlopers don't like it because they can't make any money off of it. Windows automatically blocks anything open source or unsigned because most developers of open source apps are not going to pay for a signed certificate from a company that is usually owned by another software corporation, not because there is anything wrong with the software.

As to the way microsoft is campaigning against Open Office.. that's nothing more than a typical microsoft response to anything they see as serious competition. If it wasn't a real threat to them, they wouldn't bother.

 

[JMH]

It's beyond silly, because I'm sure OpenOffice can find 16 customers who will swear they saved money dropping MS.

I'll be 17 !!! , use OpenOffice now & then , NEVER a problem , used Word for awhile IT ATE THE CPU ! The video refered to above would be more convincing if it didn't run like crap too !

I see, and that would be Word's fault without a doubt and not a problem with your system.
If you say so, then it must be true for everyone.

Well said Tepid,

There are many others [including me] who prefer / choose NOT to use Open Office...... & use MS Office. 'Saving money' in not an issue.

Your comment re Word / CPU is subjective "logic" at the best.

 

[Benjamin Hall]

I use office because 1) It looks cool installed on my system, 2) I had the money to buy it, 3) It's better than OpenOffice, hands down, and 4) I'd rather use something that's more reliable than opensource.

 

[WiGGyRedLinR]

It's beyond silly, because I'm sure OpenOffice can find 16 customers who will swear they saved money dropping MS.

I'll be 17 !!! , use OpenOffice now & then , NEVER a problem , used Word for awhile IT ATE THE CPU ! The video refered to above would be more convincing if it didn't run like crap too !

I see, and that would be Word's fault without a doubt and not a problem with your system.
If you say so, then it must be true for everyone.

Well said Tepid,

There are many others [including me] who prefer / choose NOT to use Open Office...... & use MS Office. 'Saving money' in not an issue.

Your comment re Word / CPU is subjective "logic" at the best.

OF Course it's my own experience, I understand also that OpenOffice is not intended to run entire business settings. Simply stating what happened on MY machine. Apologies I didn't intend to start a Mac vs Windows War. Free to like what ya' like & I'm happy for ya.

 

[Vertex]

I have used Open Office Portable on my Windows 7 PC to minimize component installment or new registry entries that would otherwise be orphaned if I remove the Open Office Portable suite. It was so buggy and it was very prone to crashes so I removed it after some time but I still have in on my USB. MS Office is admittedly better in my view, especially upon the arrival of MS Office 2010. I use only Wordpad and Paint on Windows 7 but I use Open Office on my Linuxes. Well, I'll be fair and state my verdict:

I shouldnt be making videoes like that if I were Micro$oft. People nowadays are wise enough to weigh the pros and cons of Open Office over MS Office and vice versa. We know its about business tactic, right??

Their video does have some strong points but on the other hand, it will do too little to make individual people switch to MS Office and buy their expensive suite and it will only cause rage among diehard Linux, Open Office and open source fanboys.

And it only makes people like us think that Micro$oft is getting a little worried about Open Office and the open source movement.

 

[HJA]

I have MS Ofice 07 and have recieved documents via email that were created in OO and I can't open them. I thought these were supposed to be compatible. I know on MSO 2003 I could open a OO document. I guess MS wants to make it difficult.

 

[SledgeDG]

Such a sorry move on Microsofts part....Redmond must really feel the heat if they sink so low.
I use MS Office at work and OO on my private machines (and as portable version on my usb stick). Granted those programs are not 100% identical but I for once never came across anything I needed to do and couldn't do that with OO. Document Exchange was never an issue for me as long I saved the OO version in the right format
And then I read

opensource is strongly unreliable

no comment

-DG

 

[Tepid]

Document Exchange was never an issue for me as long I saved the OO version in the right format
And then I read

That is only one of the issues. Try editing it and sending it back.
Try doing power user type stuff in either and then try reading and/or converting with the other. You will find that at some point, documents become corrupted.

When people start wanting to do document sharing, this does become a huge issue.

 

[madtownidiot]

If that's the case it's purely the fault of microsoft for not making its' office file formats compatible with other software.. because they can't stand any competition

 

[Tepid]

If that's the case it's purely the fault of microsoft for not making its' office file formats compatible with other software.. because they can't stand any competition

No, it is their software, they can do as they please with it.
They are not obligated to do anything.
It is up to Open Office to do more testing, which I can tell you they don't do enough, before releasing a new version to make sure they the compatibility they are trying to achieve and tout is there.

If I make a product that IS good and some one wants to create compatibility around it. I am not obligated in any way to accommodate them. That is their business.

Open Office would not have as much of a user base without the minimal compatibility that they do have right now. it is still up to them to create it using existing API's etc. otherwise, don't try.

This is not an MS issue, they have every right in the world to say no.
Just as you do, weather to use it or not.

Competition comes more from creating a better product, not from riding the backs and trying to emulate the competition off of their own product.

As an example, let's take Notepad and Notepad++.
Notepad++ is in competition with Notepad, but they did infact make it better.
They did not just try to emulate Notepad, they went beyond it.

Open Office doesn't even attempt to go beyond MS Office, Because they won't and/or can't.

 

[Woz]

I am a former OOo user. MS pulled me back with the release of Office 2010.

As long as you don't need to share files with people using MS Office, OOo works well. Open an Impress presentation in PowerPoint, you never know what you're going to see. I had problems with nearly all heavily formatted documents when moving between MSO and OOo.

IMO, for the time savings and broad file compatibility, the MS Office Home/Student edition is well worth the cost. I really got tired of having to re-format documents.

 

[pparks1]

4) I'd rather use something that's more reliable than opensource.

So, are you of the opinion that every open source application is less reliable than any commercial application? There are tons of open source applications that are quite superior and much better supported than other paid for third party products. In fact, quite a bit of the Internet infrastructure is built on open source DHCP servers, BIND dns servers, Apache web servers, and Sendmail servers.

 

[HJA]

I am a former OOo user. MS pulled me back with the release of Office 2010.

As long as you don't need to share files with people using MS Office, OOo works well. Open an Impress presentation in PowerPoint, you never know what you're going to see. I had problems with nearly all heavily formatted documents when moving between MSO and OOo.

IMO, for the time savings and broad file compatibility, the MS Office Home/Student edition is well worth the cost. I really got tired of having to re-format documents.

It was worth taking classes just to get the student discount. I start again in January and I have saved lots-o $$$$$ using the discount.

 

[madtownidiot]

4) I'd rather use something that's more reliable than opensource.

So, are you of the opinion that every open source application is less reliable than any commercial application? There are tons of open source applications that are quite superior and much better supported than other paid for third party products. In fact, quite a bit of the Internet infrastructure is built on open source DHCP servers, BIND dns servers, Apache web servers, and Sendmail servers.

No sense in trying to point out misconceptions to someone who's convinced they're right.

 

[lorddenis]

i wont post wich one is better OpenOffice or MS office i just think that a good product will advertise itself. and MS shuldnt post bad thigs about another products.

and off topic

isnt this against the law ? if im not mistaking in the advertizment i see they arent aloved to say this product is better than the other...

 

[Vertex]

isnt this against the law ? if im not mistaking in the advertizment i see they arent aloved to say this product is better than the other...

Well tell that to Apple. Haven't they been making Microsoft operating systems look bad and theirs look good???