Microsoft’s Cloud Goes Dark Across the Globe

There was no hacking involved in this incident at all and the story posted about an MS hack is irrelevant to last Fridays loss of access...
As far as MSE goes people are quick lately to bash it...i've been running it for almost 2 years now on multiple PC's and have had zero incidents.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-bootQ66004G OCZ PC2 8500 PlatinumEVGA 8800GTS Vid Card
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built
OS
Vista Ultimate X64/ Windows 7 Dual-boot
CPU
Q6600
Motherboard
ASUS P5K
Memory
4G OCZ PC2 8500 Platinum
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 8800GTS Vid Card
Hard Drives
500G Seagate SATA
200G Seagate SATA
100G WD Caviar SATA
80G WD Caviar IDE
PSU
OCZ Elite 800W PSU
Case
RaidMax Smilodon Case
MSE performs fine on all of my installs with little feedback about problems. My Typhoid Mary users are advised to buy Malwarebytes Real Time protection to run in addition to MSE which has kept any of them from being reinfected.

I've not found another AV that is as lightweight, trouble-free and reasonably effective, though I've heard good reports on ESET and Kapersky. So absent any experience with the paid AV's I recommend the one free AV which doesn't bother the user like Avast does with its tricky add-ons and registration/upgrade prompts.
 
I used AVAST! free on my XP machines without any problems or slowdowns (one can always turn off the add ons if they slow the computer down: I haven't found it necessary). I tried MSE when I got my Win7 machine last summer and found out recently it wasn't updating automatically as I had thought. To get it to update automatically, one has to schedule automatic scans. That requires the computer the computer to be on at the same time everyday, which my computer isn't. I also had a couple of trojan's slip through that MBAM free caught (AVAST! has never let anything through). AVAST! automatically updates several times daily no matter when I'm on the computer. I ditched MSE and went back to AVAST! free a couple of months ago on my Win 7 machine and haven't had any problems or slowdowns since.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
I've never heard of the updating issue you describe. It may have been an anomaly because MSE is normally updated via Windows Updates.
 
I've never heard of the updating issue you describe. It may have been an anomaly because MSE is normally updated via Windows Updates.

Only the program (and that was normally only monthly), not the virus defintions.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
The trouble with ...

As far as MSE goes people are quick lately to bash it...i've been running it for almost 2 years now on multiple PC's and have had zero incidents.

The trouble with AV programs is that you don't actually know if your machine is clean.

Unless you regularly run multiple scans from different scanners, all you really know is that your AV program can't find any problems, that doesn't actually mean that there aren't "nasties" lurking.
 

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W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, ...AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2G...NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
As far as MSE goes people are quick lately to bash it...i've been running it for almost 2 years now on multiple PC's and have had zero incidents.

The trouble with AV programs is that you don't actually know if your machine is clean.

Unless you regularly run multiple scans from different scanners, all you really know is that your AV program can't find any problems, that doesn't actually mean that there aren't "nasties" lurking.

That's why most of us use multiple scanners.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
MSE is updated via Windows Update, both clients and definitions. MSE by default updates its definitions once everyday at the time the computer was booted up, so if the computer was booted up at 3pm then MSE will update everyday at 3pm, in addition to any automatic Windows Update routines the computer might have.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disa...16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1...Nvidia EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
N/A (custom-built)
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700K @ 3.5GHz (TurboBoost disabled)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3
Memory
16GB (4x4GB) Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600MHz @ 1333MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio (motherboard integrated)
Monitor(s) Displays
NEC Multisync EX231W
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 60Hz via DVI-D
Hard Drives
2x Western Digital 1TB SATA3 Caviar Black Internal HDD // 1x WD 500GB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 1x WD 1TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD // 2x WD 2TB USB 3.0 "My Passport Essential" External HDD
PSU
Corsair Professional Series Gold AX850
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Air-cooling
Keyboard
Steelseries 6Gv2
Mouse
Steelseries Sensei RAW Glossy, Logitech M500
Internet Speed
DSL (AT&T)
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Pale Moon, Mozilla Firefox 12, Opera 12, Chromium, IE9
Other Info
Virtual Machines (VirtualBox):
* Japanese Windows XP Professional SP3
* Japanese Windows 7 Professional SP1
It didn't happen for me and verifying that was a pain. I only found out by a lucky accident when it was posted here one weekend that MSE updates weren't working. Even after the updates were supposed to be working again, I had to macontinue to manually download them. I suspect I'm not the only one who has the problem and people just aren't aware of it. With AVAST!, I know when the updates occur.

MSE has been having quite a few problems lately: the update issue, the corrupt download, and poor reviews from several sources. I can blow off one bad review as sour grapes or being biased but too many strikes against MSE have been piling up.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bitIntel i7-3930KKingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modul...MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard
ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory
Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card
Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays
3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, ?
Hard Drives
Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
PSU
Corsair HX750w
Case
Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling
Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Keyboard
Logitech G510s
Mouse
Logitech M525 (two in use)
Internet Speed
=< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus
AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser
IE11
Other Info
LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
This thread is "Microsoft's Cloud Goes Dark Across the Globe". Doesn't really matter to me if it was because of a hack, an expired security signature, or little green martians. The "cloud" is vulnerable to failure. Just like a stove, refrigerator, car, computer or toilet can fail. Each of us has a responsibility to make sure we have a Plan B or even a Plan C, Plan D, or Plan E in place for these failures.

As far as anti-virus program bashing is concerned, I'm against it. If someone wants to use MSE, or AVG, or McAfee, or Norton, or "Billy Bob's Real-Time Real Deal Secuity Suite", that's their choice. If they're happy with it, so be it.

:focus:
 

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Win 7 Pro 64-bitIntel i5 2.4 Ghz8GB DDR3Intel HD 3000
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i5 2.4 Ghz
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
640Gb 7200rpm
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Opera (primary) with IE9 backup
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