Solved "missing operating system" and other pleasurable stuff...

givolini

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Hello!

In the last few weeks I've been experiencing the following issues.

The pc started to slow down, and it kept happening more and more often. Sometime it freezes and there is no way to resurrect it.
In those cases, when I go for a restart, sometimes it won't reboot: I get a DOS error message, the likes of "impossible to find disk - press CTRL+ALT+CANC to restart". When I try to do so, it still won't boot and it says that either an external unit has been removed or there is a damaged harddisk or dvd player.
Other times, after several useless attempts at restarting using CTRL+ALT+CANC, I finally get a different error message: "missing operating system".
If I leave it alone for ten minutes, then I'll likely get the screen with the option to start windows in safe mode or normally. If I choose normal, it will start indeed... until the next event.

I have replaced the hard-disk; I have excluded usb drives from the system boot (in the BIOS); I have formatted+reinstalled everything (on different hard disks) three times in the last two weeks to no avail. I am at a loss as to what's causing this, and I'm pretty much exhausted.

I apologize if I misposted, but I am taking advantage of a rare moment of lucidity of the pc.

Thank you for your help.
Giorgio
 

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
So if I understand this correctly...

You started having "Missing Operating System" error messages and sometimes you can get the PC to boot into Windows, sometimes not?

Then, you did a clean install on a known good hard drive and still have the same issues?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Dual Boot: Windows 8.1 & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
CPU
A10 7700 Kavari SteamRoller
Motherboard
ASUS A88XM-PLUS (FM2+ )
Memory
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500
Graphics Card(s)
1024MB ATI AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
SSD Crucial 120gb
WD VelociRaptor 1tb
PSU
Rosewill Gaming 650w
Case
Rosewill Galaxy 2
Internet Speed
55/12
Antivirus
Malwarebytes, MSE, SAS
Browser
FireFox, Chrome
Precisely
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
Well assuming the second hard drive it truly good, I would say you may have a problem with your disk controller, cables or your motherboard as a whole.

Start by making sure all cables are secured tightly (not just from Sata to Hard drive, but all connections)
Try switching to a different Sata connection on your motherboard.
Clean out any/all dust with an air can

Sata connectors look like this on your motherboard
SATA04.png
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Dual Boot: Windows 8.1 & Server 2012r2 VMs: Kali Linux, Backbox, Matriux, Windows 8.1
CPU
A10 7700 Kavari SteamRoller
Motherboard
ASUS A88XM-PLUS (FM2+ )
Memory
8GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-8500
Graphics Card(s)
1024MB ATI AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung
Hard Drives
SSD Crucial 120gb
WD VelociRaptor 1tb
PSU
Rosewill Gaming 650w
Case
Rosewill Galaxy 2
Internet Speed
55/12
Antivirus
Malwarebytes, MSE, SAS
Browser
FireFox, Chrome
Desktop or laptop? I ask 'cause they each have unique quirky-causes that can lead to problems as described above.
"The pc started to slow down, and it kept happening more and more often. Sometime it freezes and there is no way to resurrect it."
I've seen laptops with intermittant power brick-to-motherboard snafus, laptops getting too hot in the proc and/or HD area; desktops simply going on strike ['cause of either hardware clashing and/or software clashing].
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
That's what I was afraid of.

I'll try your suggestion in the weekend. It's a little more complicated than one would expect, since I have a Shuttle case (veeeeery little space inside), so I'll have to literally take the pc apart, to make sure the cables are tight.

As far as switching to a different SATA, I'm not even sure there is an available one.
But thank you for your help!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
It is a desktop
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
It is a desktop
You're right, I should have remembered SATA being mentioned earlier! My jumping backNforth between screens lead to memory loss on my part,.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
Internet Speed
AT&T DSL
Browser
FF, GChrome, msIE
Other Info
Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
I believe this is you motherboard. You can double check.

From you My System Specs
Motherboard Shuttle FX38



Shuttle Europe: Specification

Drive connectors
Serial-ATA II, 3 Gb/s (300 MB/s) bandwidth
4x internal (SATA) plus 2x external (eSATA)
Intel Matrix Storage Technology enabled striping and mirroring
Supports RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 and JBOD on just two or three hard disk drives
Supports Native Command Queuing (NCQ)
1x IDE ATA 100 drives (JMicron JMB368 Controller)
1x floppy disk drive
Front Panel connectors
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Yes, there should be 4 SATA ports, but I must remove the graphic board to see/check them, very complicated (to me...) :cry:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
Thank you all for your help, I'll try to put your suggestions in practice.
Best regards.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz
Motherboard
Shuttle FX38
Memory
8,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 SE
Sound Card
(1) Realtek High Definition Audio (2) NVIDIA Virtual Audio
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
(1) SAMSUNG HD103UJ ATA Device (2) WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 ATA Device (3) Generic USB CF Reader USB Device (4) Generic USB MS Reader USB Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device (6) Generic USB SM Reader USB Device
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