.MKV conversion

[Devilz]

As per topic, I got few movies in .MKV extension and video quality is like full HD 1080p. I want to burn them on DVD's so I can play them on my home theater system but it won't let me. I've to convert them into .avi or .wmv to burn DVD's which loses video quality.

Is there anyway to burn these .MKV without converting/losing video quality?

Thanks

 

[StalkeR]

Hello there. There is no software can do that. You'll always will lose the quality.

 

[Devilz]

thats a shame really

 

[Ponmayilal]

If you do have a HDTV and want to view your HD movies, then I would suggest you to buy a Sony PS3 for its Bluray BD Player. ( I do not work for Sony )

Then an easy way to play your HD MKV files will be to stream it to your PS3 through WMP.

If you are content with viewing it in DVD quality, then try Freemake Video Converter to burn it to a DVD. See my post here .

 

[mjf]

You can also look at Western Digital's WDTVLive or WDTVLive plus.
It supports a number of containers and codec standards. (eg. MKV + H.264).

 

[mckillwashere]

If you do have a HDTV and want to view your HD movies, then I would suggest you to buy a Sony PS3 for its Bluray BD Player. ( I do not work for Sony )

Then an easy way to play your HD MKV files will be to stream it to your PS3 through WMP.

If you are content with viewing it in DVD quality, then try Freemake Video Converter to burn it to a DVD. See my post here .

Actually I wouldn't buy a Ps3, you may get hacked or have your personal information stolen.

 

[Ponmayilal]

.......Actually I wouldn't buy a Ps3, you may get hacked or have your personal information stolen.

I don't have a PlayStationNetwork account. I bought it only for playing BDs and it is another Media Center. So no worries .

 

[Devilz]

If you do have a HDTV and want to view your HD movies, then I would suggest you to buy a Sony PS3 for its Bluray BD Player. ( I do not work for Sony )

Then an easy way to play your HD MKV files will be to stream it to your PS3 through WMP.

If you are content with viewing it in DVD quality, then try Freemake Video Converter to burn it to a DVD. See my post here .

I already got PS3

I guess I'll stick with .mkv for the moment and forget converting these to DVD

 

[D247]

If you do have a HDTV and want to view your HD movies, then I would suggest you to buy a Sony PS3 for its Bluray BD Player. ( I do not work for Sony )

Then an easy way to play your HD MKV files will be to stream it to your PS3 through WMP.

If you are content with viewing it in DVD quality, then try Freemake Video Converter to burn it to a DVD. See my post here .

You are still going to lose quality streaming it. It'll end up about DVD quality streaming it through the PS3. Only way to watch it in HD is to plug it in HDMI or DVI from a laptop to the TV.

 

[Ponmayilal]

^Not necessarily, if you go through the intermediate step of remuxing to vob, using mkv2vob and then stream it through WMP12. Of course your network capability to sustain high data transfer rate comes into play - but can be achieved.

I also understand that you can stream copy these higher than 4GB vob files into the FAT32 PS3 drive. Have not tried to find the veracity though.

That said, there is nothing like a direct play and direct plugin without any intermediate processing and transmission of data. That is why I am averse to streaming and/or converting to other formats.

Have a look at this article How To Play MKV Files On Playstation 3

And for anyone interested in setting up a WMP12-PS3 stream-machine a few more

AVForums.com - View Single Post - Windows 7 to PS3 Streaming - Help? and

http://www.hack7mc.com/2009/02/mkvs-for-minimalists-on-windows-7.html ( I go with Shark 007 codecs)

And there are many more to confuse you if you search google.

 

[mjf]

You are still going to lose quality streaming it. It'll end up about DVD quality streaming it through the PS3. Only way to watch it in HD is to plug it in HDMI or DVI from a laptop to the TV.

m2ts HD files are typically coded using VC 1 from my observation.
When dealing with lossy re-encoding you can only decrease the theoretical information content.

But video and audio coding capitalizes on human perception.
Assume you use pass through with audio so it stays the same.
Using Handbrake you can re-encode video using AVC/H.264 with at least a 4:1 reduction in size and get perceptually near identical HD video quality. Then place video and audio in an MKV container.

Using an Intel Core 2 Quad @2.5GHz the process may take ~ 7 hours!

 

[Wishmaster]

All you need is TsMuxer.

Use it to create a AVCHD format.

Youll have a folder thats a Bluray type structure. Just add the the 2 folders to the disc and burn to DVD or DL-DVD with ImgBurn.


So long as the encode itself follows Bluray/AVCHD specification, it will work.


Have a look here:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/107100-avchd-disc-how-create.html?ltr=A


The source file can be MKV or even a MP4. All that matters is that the streams are compliant.
Typically, H264 video stream with AC3 or DTS audio stream.

 

[Ponmayilal]

+1 for the above AVCHD option.

Initially the OP said that he wants to play the HD content with a standard DVD Player.

When a PS2 was suggested he came out that he already has a PS3.

In the circumstances, burning AVCHD to the DVD media and playing it on his PS3 seems to be a viable option but burning a AVCHD DVD will require a BD writer. Right????

Given that the OP has indicated that he does not want to lose the HD quality one has to assume that he wouldn't be willing for a lower bitrate.

This brings the next point how much HD video he can put on into the DVD. At a bitrate of11500 Kbps and 1080i it may be 45 minutes while at 30000 Kbps it may only be 15 minutes.

Obviously the OP cannot have the cake and eat it too.

Personally I would prefer writing to a BD-R disk straight away than trying to touch my nose from behind my head. BD Media is becoming cheaper by the day.

 

[mjf]

The AVCHD tutorial directly answers your question.
I think you can have your cake and eat it too using a DVD+R/DL and an appropriate encoded H.264 video. 8GB will give you an excellent, albeit not perfect, full HD encoding. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

BD burners and disks are still very expensive. To make a "perfect" backup of your Blu Ray you may as well just buy a second copy.

 

[Wishmaster]

Yep, Just a regular DVD or Dual LAyer DVD writer is all you need.
However, you will need a a BluRay Player to play it back.


As far as quality goes, Ive found if you downsize to 720P, you can get some really good looking copies on a single layer DVD, or DL for longer films.

You can keep it at 1080P, but many times, they come out just as well or better as a higher bitrate 720P copy.

It really depends on the the length of the film, and what media you're using.

If just just single layer disc, Id say downsize it to 720p, and go with as high of a bitrate as you can.
So you keep it looking as close to the original as possible.

It will not be operfect, but many would find it difficult to notice the difference.

 

[Ponmayilal]

^So my assumption that a BD writer is required for writing AVCHD is wrong. Thanks for clarifying my mistaken notion.

Ya, a BD player is required to play the AVCHD disk. There is no confusion there and the OP has it.

It indeed becomes a viable option to the OP, provided he comes down on the bitrate and 720P suitable for packing it on a DL DVD.

Let us see what the OP has in mind after all that has flown here.

 

[mjf]

When I use an mkv-h264 output from Handbrake, the guidelines in the AVCHD tutorial don't work for me.
When I run Tsmuxer it sets to 9000fps and I get buffer overrun.
I'm guessing my lack of knowledge is to blame.

 

[Wishmaster]

Wierd ...

TBH, Im not familiar with Handbrakes settings.
Perhaps theres something Handbrake does that overides these settings?
That or Im missing something.


But, TsMuxer shouldnt try to change the bitrate. All its really doing is De-Muxing the Audio and Video from the MKV or MP4 file, and remuxing them into a MT2S container.
Bitrate should stay the same as it was when it was encoded.


Im a bit confused as to why it would be doing this ...


Do your TSMuxer settings look like this?


The major things that need to be set in the encoder should just be:
Ref. frames = 4
BFRames=3
KeyInt=24
MinKeyInt=2
BPyrimid=Strict
VBV Buffer 14500
Max Bitarte 14000

These settings should make the Video Stream BD/AVCHD compliant.
So bitrate and file size should all be done via the encoder itself.

 

[mjf]

Thanks Wishmaster I'll follow up shortly with a new thread using your post #18 as a first response.
The OP may want to push his question in a different direction to mine.