Most XP users hate Windows 7!!!

[Lemur]

Speaking of all this, does anyone remember when XP first came out, and had compatibility problems left and right, and was considered by many to be a horrible excuse for an OS? Windows 98 was the "golden standard." Ironic...

I seem to recall SP1, SP2 and SP3.

List of fixes for 1
List of fixes in Windows XP Service Pack 1 and Windows XP Service Pack 1a

List of fixes for 2
List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2

List of fixes for 3
List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3

Wanna count 'em? I don't.

 

[BCXtreme]

Speaking of all this, does anyone remember when XP first came out, and had compatibility problems left and right, and was considered by many to be a horrible excuse for an OS? Windows 98 was the "golden standard." Ironic...

I seem to recall SP1, SP2 and SP3.

List of fixes for 1
List of fixes in Windows XP Service Pack 1 and Windows XP Service Pack 1a

List of fixes for 2
List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2

List of fixes for 3
List of fixes that are included in Windows XP Service Pack 3

Wanna count 'em? I don't.

I remember seeing tons of software and hardware with big stickers saying "NOT COMPATIBLE with Windows XP".

Windows 7 SP1 is little more than a compilation of previous updates, it doesn't "fix" any major issues. So which OS is truly better?

 

[bigmck]

Check the comments on this article, very interesting!!
Why XP owners won't love Windows 7 - Computerworld Blogs

So I guess what they are saying is that the millions of people who like Win 7, never had XP and jumped straight from Windows ME to Windows 7. Come to think of it, anyone that used ME would be thrilled with anything else.

 

[A Guy]

I would not have switched to 7 from XP just to switch. All the years of tweaks, and programs, and all I didn't want to lose. But, I wanted a screaming new PC, and I wasn't going to be stupid and install an older OS on it. Since it had gotten almost universal good reviews, I knew 7 was good. Happy as can be, no looking back. Besides, got to come to Seven Forums, case closed, lol.

A Guy

 

[strollin]

I don't think the conclusion can be drawn that that "most XP users hate Windows 7". There may be plenty of people that don't want to switch for whatever reason but I doubt "most" users hate Win 7.

Personally, I've purchased only 1 computer that came with Win 7 installed but have converted 6 other computers in my house from XP to Win 7 and have no desire to switch back!

 

[Dwarf]

I used to have XP years ago before Vista, and, after using W98SE, I thought it was great. Then along came Vista and now Windows 7. Each new release I felt was an improvement over the last. Where I feel that many people have problems is not the OS persay, but rather its idiosyncrasies and different ways to achieve the same thing. In other words, people get frustrated when the method that they have got used to using in achieving something in an older OS no longer works, or only partially works, in a newer OS. The solution there is patience and learning the new way of doing things. Then there is the totally new features that didn't previously exist. The UAC is a classic example. This did not exist in XP, was introduced in Vista and greatly improved in Windows 7. Of course, it is not perfect, but I haven't had trouble with it at its default settings.

 

[billynomates]

To be fair, the article referred to was written in January 2009, a good 9 months before your "average" XP owner would have been able to legally get their hands on it. So how did the writer know people wouldn't like it if they haven't seen it (beta testers excepted)??

I would not have switched to 7 from XP just to switch. All the years of tweaks, and programs, and all I didn't want to lose. But, I wanted a screaming new PC, and I wasn't going to be stupid and install an older OS on it....

Same boat here, made my own theme etc. and knew exactly where everything was.
The "very occasional" system re-install would be due to user error, usually trying to remove Outlook (with a 20Gb system HDD, removing everything that I thought was "bloatware" was essential!). But to re-install the system and all my stuff took at most an hour.
WinPatrol, ESET, Mbam instantly took hold of any naughty boys, gave them a good slapping and showed 'em the door.
Then my old (and it was second hand to me) Packard Bell was finally showing its age so it was time to buy a new PC, but that was back in June 2009 and like A Guy I wasn't going to install an old system on a new PC. I waited until December 2009 to see what feedback Windows 7 was getting from "real people", not Beta testers.

And I was impressed, so I took the leap.
Am I still impressed? Yep. 98% of the time.

 

[Dalek]

Windows 7 is better than xp in so many ways,but i dont know why they hate it so much...

 

[Lordbob75]

Time to quote him and tell him why he is wrong.... (IMO of course )

One of the biggest complaints that XP users had with Windows Vista was its hardware incompatibilities. Older printers, scanners, network cards, and other peripherals simply didn't work with Vista. Here's the bad news: They won't work in Windows 7, either, because Windows 7 uses the same driver model as Windows Vista. So XP users will be out of luck.

I can understand wanting to keep your tried, trusted, and true hardware, but there comes a point where it is obsolete. In the technology world, much more than 5 years and it is old.

XP users also tend not to be fans of Vista's Windows Aero and other interface enhancements that they dismiss as so much frou-frou. Guess what --- there's even more frou-frou in Windows 7, such as a new taskbar and a nice new feature called Aero Peek. (For more details, see "Review: Windows 7 Beta 1 shows off new task bar, more UI goodies.") Those features won't make XP users happy.

Windows Classic (or basic) theme for the win...

Some XP users I know simply don't like change. They'd like the old Windows Explorer back, or the Run box back, or would have liked to have seen the same desktop icons in Vista that were in XP. Even though Vista lets them customize it so that it had some old XP features, it was still different enough that they weren't happy.

Run box is still there, just a little deeper in the menu.
I don't know why desktop icons are an issue, they work exactly the same :sarcastic:

Anyways, in the end it is a new OS, why SHOULDN'T it be different? Would you drive a car that was made in 1950 because you think it works better than one made in 2009? The safety features alone should make you think twice...

~Lordbob

 

[Petey7]

I like LordBob's car analogy, except, a car from the 50's (like my Dads '55 Chevy) still looks cool and is nice to drive once in a while. After figuring out 7, doing anything in XP just seems harder. The Run box was easier to find in XP, but I've almost completely replaced it with Windows search. Besides, saying that people that primarily use one OS, don't like the other, is like saying most people that have only used desktop computers, don't like using laptops. Yeah its true, but that doesn't mean that laptops don't have some advantages over desktops.

 

[Lordbob75]

I like LordBob's car analogy, except, a car from the 50's (like my Dads '55 Chevy) still looks cool and is nice to drive once in a while. After figuring out 7, doing anything in XP just seems harder. The Run box was easier to find in XP, but I've almost completely replaced it with Windows search. Besides, saying that people that primarily use one OS, don't like the other, is like saying most people that have only used desktop computers, don't like using laptops. Yeah its true, but that doesn't mean that laptops don't have some advantages over desktops.

+1, thanks for taking it farther.

~Lordbob

 

[merkat106]

I liked XP when it was the newest & greatest os. Then when Vista came out, I liked it (except for the bugs), but I still used XP. Then when 7 was released as RTM, I liked it and finally retired XP. I found that both Vista & 7 are more stable than XP in a PC repair bench. Our XP box would seem to crash whenever I tried to fix a corrupted hard drive, whereas, the Vista (7 wasn't even beta at the time) box would not.

 

[gregrocker]

 

[fishnbanjo]

This is quite the surprise to me. I remember setting up Vista on a friends laptop because it was what he wanted and after seeing it I did not really care for it for quite a few reasons but saw it had some good stuff as well.

I was one of the BETA testers for Windows 7 and liked what I saw there a great deal as they took the better portions of Vista and not only expanded upon them they were far superior.

I loaded W7 Professional 32 on a nearly 6 y/o DELL XPS laptop with 60Gb HDD, a CD-RW, 2 Gb RAM and a 128 Mb ATi 9700 GPU, the CPU is a 3.4GHz extreme. This system ran like a top for all the time I owned it with a hiccup of the keyboard going fluky after 5 years so I just replaced it and we were off and running.

Once W7 Pro 32 was loaded it was not only running flawlessly, it surpassed the way it ran with XP Pro and I ordered a new 160Gb HDD for it and when I loaded W7 Pro 32 on it that was the OS, no XP and I find XP a bit clunky now when I had never had that issue before W7, I guess we're all different.

 

[antares]

I will install 7 and use it in a dual boot config with XP. I do everything in XP (except on my 7 netbook), but will slowly shift to 7 as I get used to it.

 

[antares]

Dell says bye to XP:
Dell prepares for Windows XP's final act | Beyond Binary - CNET News

 

[zigzag3143]

Your source for the statement most XP users hate win 7?

 

[Maxxwire]

When I first got my Vista computer it was right when SP1 was released and all the complaints that my friends who ran XP at the time about the Vista OS just didn't materialize on my machine because so many improvements had been made by that time.

Flash forward 2 years and all of us are now running Win 7! This latest and greatest Windows OS has brought us all together on the same computing platform for the very first time and I haven't heard one of them complain yet with the exception that they are convinced that Win 7 Aero has a back door!

~Maxx~
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[jimbo45]

Hi there
to me the original statement - especially without decent facts to back this up is just a load of "Little round Objects" or more bluntly Pure Bovine Scatology.

True some people hate change and there are little niggles such as (but please don't start a thread on this again) the old Classic menu vs the newer interface but once people have got used to W7 and embraced a lot of the new features then I can't see the statement ringing true at all.

Lack of a decent email client (Outlook express was 100% fine for users who just wanted a simple no nonsense email package without all the bells and whistles such as Outlook has) and no decent equivalent to Netmeeting are probably the biggest gripes I've heard when people upgrade.

Neither of these problems are insurmountable in themselves but removing functionality that people are VERY comfortable with is likely to cause the biggest grumbles from NON technical users when an upgrade is required.


Most people (including me) who one way or another are still running some XP systems whether on real or Virtual machines do so because of particular issues such as legacy hardware / corporate software etc.

I and I'm sure most other users wouldn't find it a problem when the day finally arrives to ditch XP completely.

Cheers
jimbo

 

[BCXtreme]

Hi there
to me the original statement - especially without decent facts to back this up is just a load of "Little round Objects" or more bluntly Pure Bovine Scatology.

True some people hate change and there are little niggles such as (but please don't start a thread on this again) the old Classic menu vs the newer interface but once people have got used to W7 and embraced a lot of the new features then I can't see the statement ringing true at all.

Lack of a decent email client (Outlook express was 100% fine for users who just wanted a simple no nonsense email package without all the bells and whistles such as Outlook has) and no decent equivalent to Netmeeting are probably the biggest gripes I've heard when people upgrade.

Neither of these problems are insurmountable in themselves but removing functionality that people are VERY comfortable with is likely to cause the biggest grumbles from NON technical users when an upgrade is required.


Most people (including me) who one way or another are still running some XP systems whether on real or Virtual machines do so because of particular issues such as legacy hardware / corporate software etc.

I and I'm sure most other users wouldn't find it a problem when the day finally arrives to ditch XP completely.

Cheers
jimbo

Regardless of how special you think Netmeeting was, tell me, are there other programs out there that would be considered to "compete" with it from a business standpoint? If so, then they removed Netmeeting for the same reason that they removed Outlook Express / Windows Mail. They removed those things (also Movie Maker and Messenger) because of antitrust threats. In Europe, where the antitrust situation is even worse, they even had to remove Internet Explorer (even though every other OS comes standard with one default browser).

I don't want to turn this into a debate on such things, but I do think that they were forced to make several basic features (like email) a little harder for the novice user, to avoid being sued by companies that thought it was unfair to include any competitive software in Windows. (I guess those companies aren't concerned about Windows DVD Maker, Desktop Gadgets, or Paint, for some reason.)