MOTU 8PRE problems

Mnementh

New member
Local time
1:56 AM
Messages
3
Hi all!

I just bought myself a MOTU 8PRE FW soundcard.

I have it up an running without any problems on my laptop running Win XP/Cubase SX3/Guitar Rig 4 and some other apps.

When installing it under Windows 7/Cubase 5 I get extreme distortion. And I mean really extreme distortion. I get it to "work" without distortion if I put all volume sliders in the mixer at 4%(!). When I start cubase I need to have the main out slider in Cubase also at -45dB to be able to get a descent sound.

I can use the MOTU Cuemix and hear my instrument correctly but as soon as I try to use any program other than that the distortion is very nasty. Even the system sounds distort like crazy.

I've tried all the tips I can find online but to no success ... I've tried different drivers, disabled the onboard audio completely and stuff like that ...

Plz help ... it feels kinda drag to buy a used sound card for €400 and not be able to use it properly ... *grrrr*

Thanks in advance!
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 PRO SWE
CPU
Athlon 64 X2 600+
Motherboard
Asus M2N-E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS
Sound Card
Onboard audio, MOTU 8PRE, Hercules 16/12 FW
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 19"
The actual Firewire hardware chip can make a difference on many audio firewire devices. I have a Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 (8 channel audio interface unit) and it uses the "Dice II" firewire interface and the recommended PC firewire chip is the T.I. (Texas Instruments). There are a few others that will work OK but others will either not work at all or have a lot of latency and drop out problems.

I found that the "legacy" drivers must be used with this unit. Here is the info from the MOTU web site: MOTU.com - Using the Legacy FireWire Driver in Windows 7
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
My Own Build
OS
Windows 10 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
16GB Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Intel CPU Graphics
Sound Card
RealTek
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Dell S2719dgf
Screen Resolution
2560X1440
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Pro
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
2 TB drive for backup
PSU
EVGA Supernova 750G2
Case
BeQuiet Silent Base 600
Cooling
Deepcool Captain 120EX
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 2000
Mouse
Microsoft wireless
Internet Speed
100 MB/sec (Cable)
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes
Browser
Edge/Firefox
Other Info
Cakewalk (Sonar) by BandLab and Studio One 4.1 Pro recording studio software. MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero BurningROM
I have corrected the FW-legacy problem earlier but still have the problem with the distortion of sound and extremely high sound levels out from the sound card.

As described in my initial post it is like if the signal is boosted 2 or 3 times before coming out of the sound card ... Any ideas?
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 PRO SWE
CPU
Athlon 64 X2 600+
Motherboard
Asus M2N-E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS
Sound Card
Onboard audio, MOTU 8PRE, Hercules 16/12 FW
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 19"
Not being familiar with MOTU I can't say if it's a Windows 7 compatiblity problem or not. Have you contacted MOTU? Their support may have a solution for you. Since it works on the XP system that would also tend to say it's a Win 7 compatiblity issue, which is not uncommon with many devices. I see posts on the Sonar Forum about Win 7 compatiblity problems with many devices. Eventually Win 7 compatibility will be standard, but it's not yet.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
My Own Build
OS
Windows 10 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
16GB Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Intel CPU Graphics
Sound Card
RealTek
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Dell S2719dgf
Screen Resolution
2560X1440
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Pro
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
2 TB drive for backup
PSU
EVGA Supernova 750G2
Case
BeQuiet Silent Base 600
Cooling
Deepcool Captain 120EX
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 2000
Mouse
Microsoft wireless
Internet Speed
100 MB/sec (Cable)
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes
Browser
Edge/Firefox
Other Info
Cakewalk (Sonar) by BandLab and Studio One 4.1 Pro recording studio software. MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero BurningROM
The solution was change FW controller card ...
With the help of MOTU support.
I had a FW controller card with NEC chipset ... borrowed one with Texas Instrument chipset (as demanded by the support) and it works ... well well ... that was easy :)

Thanks for your time :)
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 PRO SWE
CPU
Athlon 64 X2 600+
Motherboard
Asus M2N-E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GTS
Sound Card
Onboard audio, MOTU 8PRE, Hercules 16/12 FW
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 19"
The solution was change FW controller card ...
With the help of MOTU support.
I had a FW controller card with NEC chipset ... borrowed one with Texas Instrument chipset (as demanded by the support) and it works ... well well ... that was easy :)

Thanks for your time :)

Yep, I have a Presonus Firestudio which also behaves badly with NEC Firewire, Texas instruments makes the best chips for audio use although VIA Firewire chips work well too.

Ap
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled in my workshop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3.00gHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Sound Card
RME 24/96 Card, Realtek Internal Audio PreSonus FireStudio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 1917 (x2)
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 on both monitors
Hard Drives
Three 250GB Seagate SATA Barracuda 7200rpm
PSU
Rosewill 500-watt
Case
Rosewill mid-tower
Cooling
Noctua NH-U9B (CPU), PwrSupply fan + single large case Fan
Keyboard
Macally w/2/USB ports.
Mouse
Trackman Wheel
Other Info
Event 20/20 bas studio monitors, Yamaha sub.
Rackmount Korg/Roland/Yamaha synthesizers,
Cubase MIDI/audio recording. Sony Soundforge audio/mastering software. CD Architect Mastering. RME & Presonus audio interfaces.
As my first response, I noted the TI chipset. Apparently this unit is also using the Dice II firewire interface as does Presonus, Focusrite, Alesis and many more.

My firewire Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 recently died and it was going to cost within $50 of what I paid new for the unit so it's now a "boat anchor". I bought a new M Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R that is USB connected and the hardware works much better and lower latency.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
My Own Build
OS
Windows 10 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
16GB Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Intel CPU Graphics
Sound Card
RealTek
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Dell S2719dgf
Screen Resolution
2560X1440
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Pro
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
2 TB drive for backup
PSU
EVGA Supernova 750G2
Case
BeQuiet Silent Base 600
Cooling
Deepcool Captain 120EX
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 2000
Mouse
Microsoft wireless
Internet Speed
100 MB/sec (Cable)
Antivirus
Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes
Browser
Edge/Firefox
Other Info
Cakewalk (Sonar) by BandLab and Studio One 4.1 Pro recording studio software. MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero BurningROM
My firewire Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 recently died and it was going to cost within $50 of what I paid new for the unit so it's now a "boat anchor". I bought a new M Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R that is USB connected and the hardware works much better and lower latency.


Really, that's good to know, evidently USB has come a long way, I know it does take a bit more overall CPU than Firewire but with a modern machine it really doesn't matter much.

Ap
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Assembled in my workshop
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3.00gHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P35-S3G
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Sound Card
RME 24/96 Card, Realtek Internal Audio PreSonus FireStudio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 1917 (x2)
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024 on both monitors
Hard Drives
Three 250GB Seagate SATA Barracuda 7200rpm
PSU
Rosewill 500-watt
Case
Rosewill mid-tower
Cooling
Noctua NH-U9B (CPU), PwrSupply fan + single large case Fan
Keyboard
Macally w/2/USB ports.
Mouse
Trackman Wheel
Other Info
Event 20/20 bas studio monitors, Yamaha sub.
Rackmount Korg/Roland/Yamaha synthesizers,
Cubase MIDI/audio recording. Sony Soundforge audio/mastering software. CD Architect Mastering. RME & Presonus audio interfaces.
Back
Top