MS Security Essentials

[Maguscreed]

I have installed avast!, Panda Cloud and Comodo on over 12 machines, all with different architecture, and haven't experienced even one problem in over 2yrs. These machines are used by a variety of owners all with differing levels of experience.

I'm glad for them, I really am, it doesn't change the problems I have seen here with my own eyes.
I'm sure the problems are fairly isolated, but they do exist.

 

[DBone]

From what I've seen, I would say there are more people around with infection problems while using MSE, then there are people with BSOD's using 3rd party protection.

 

[Markmental]

my dad uses MSE but he was dissapointed it couldn't detect a rogue av.
I personally use Avast! antivirus Free.

 

[Maguscreed]

I haven't had an infection in years. Of course I use noscript for my browsing and a little something called commonsense for everything else. Between those two I haven't any problems with my personal machine in years. MSE is mostly for show as I don't even let it run most the time.
Between just Ghostery and NoScript in my browser I'd basically have to intentionally allow something in for it to even be a worry.
And that's generally the case with most the infections I see, people just clicked yes when they shouldn't have or were trying to see something got in a hurry and weren't noticing redirects on links.

Out of all the fancy expensive AV's I'd say commonsense is by far the best protection available at any price.

This particular thread is about MSE though.
It's functional, and it doesn't block windows own system components.
My problem with most the 3rd party ones is their nagging.
User answers one question wrong and all the sudden they can't access the internet anymore.
The simplest solution is generally the best. If someone has a pattern of infection, they're probably going to get infected regardless of what they are using, because the problem is the user, not the software in play...

 

[Mercurial]

One of our corporate pc's just died with f*cking AVAST! installed ,good thing I was able to safemode+sys restore before it crashed again, I just installed MSE and Mbam then it lived again .

If you want to pay for an AV though I recommend ESET 5 best shit ever.

 

[Maguscreed]

Avast and AVG have been common problem causers in the minidumps I've been seeing here. Norton a little less so, I can say I haven't seen a single problem from ESET yet. ...well not since back in the xp days.

 

[Markmental]

time to get a new AV! Probably Avira

 

[Corrine]

Not everything is rosy with Avira, Markmental. See Avira AntiVir Adds Ask Toolbar and Scareware PopUp and the linked articles.

 

[I be he]

Are we down to just Mse and Panda now?:shock: Perhaps there is a bit of over reacting going on:shock:Conflicts will happen with all apps from time to time, and Avast as well as the others will fix the issues. And if you think this cant happen with Mse

 

[Markmental]

i might check out comodo im just av jumping. try one uninstall it and try another one.

 

[I be he]

i might check out comodo im just av jumping. try one uninstall it and try another one.

If im not mistaken, installing and un-installing A/Vs is not that good for the registry. Are you useing a VM or Returnil for testing so you dont effect the registry? Do you have a back up O/S copy at the ready? If not you might be looking at a fresh OS re- install in your future :shock:

 

[Maguscreed]

I haven't been running into many problems with comodo when debugging, it might be a good one to try.

 

[Markmental]

i might check out comodo im just av jumping. try one uninstall it and try another one.

If im not mistaken, installing and un-installing A/Vs is not that good for the registry. Are you useing a VM or Returnil for testing so you dont effect the registry? Do you have a back up O/S copy at the ready? If not you might be looking at a fresh OS re- install in your future :shock:

I have recovery discs and It's a fairly new install. I deicided to ignore what people say and keep Avast

 

[Maguscreed]

People are basically going to do whatever they feel like at the end of the day.
I do personally think you chose one of the poorest decisions for win 7 though.

 

[The Howling Wolves]

i might check out comodo im just av jumping. try one uninstall it and try another one.

If im not mistaken, installing and un-installing A/Vs is not that good for the registry. Are you useing a VM or Returnil for testing so you dont effect the registry? Do you have a back up O/S copy at the ready? If not you might be looking at a fresh OS re- install in your future :shock:

I have recovery discs and It's a fairly new install. I deicided to ignore what people say and keep Avast

If you decided to ignore what people suggested then why did you pose the question?
THW

 

[Markmental]

If im not mistaken, installing and un-installing A/Vs is not that good for the registry. Are you useing a VM or Returnil for testing so you dont effect the registry? Do you have a back up O/S copy at the ready? If not you might be looking at a fresh OS re- install in your future :shock:

I have recovery discs and It's a fairly new install. I deicided to ignore what people say and keep Avast

If you decided to ignore what people suggested then why did you pose the question?
THW

well i just found out it can hurt my registry.

 

[Markmental]

People are basically going to do whatever they feel like at the end of the day.
I do personally think you chose one of the poorest decisions for win 7 though.

from Wikipedia

• In 2006, Avast! antivirus won the Secure Computing Readers' Trust Award for best antivirus.[5]
• In August 2008, Avast! antivirus was awarded the "Advanced+" rating by the independent testing company AV Comparatives.[14] This is the highest rating awarded by AV Comparatives.[15]
• In February 2009, Avast! antivirus was awarded the "Advanced" rating by AV Comparatives.[16] This is the second-highest rating awarded by AV Comparatives.[15]
• In August 2009, Avast! antivirus was again awarded the "Advanced+" rating by AV Comparatives.[17][18]
• In December 2010, Avast! free antivirus was awarded the VB100 award, conducted by Virus Bulletin.[19]
• In December 2010, Avast! Internet Security was awarded Silver for proactive detection rate of new/unknown malware (~56%, with 21 false positives)[20]

• In 2010, Avast! made the top 10 most-downloaded list on CNET Downloads

Doesn't sound poor to me

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[Maguscreed]

A billion rewards doesn't counter the fact that among AV's it's the most common to cause issues in windows 7. More often than not they are full blown BSOD crashes.

 

[DBone]

This is the only site that I frequent that pushes MSE. I know why, as it's a forum that many Microsoft fans populate. OP, if you are interested in the best free AV you can download, check out Wilders Security Forums - Powered by vBulletin and spend some time there.

All programs have their pros and cons, and AVs are no exception. On other security forums, avast! is highly thought of by most people, and MSE is not. Like I said, I have 1st have knowledge of over a dozen machines running avast! Free, Pro and AIS, all without a single problem in over 2yrs................No, the sky is not falling.

 

[Markmental]

A billion rewards doesn't counter the fact that among AV's it's the most common to cause issues in windows 7. More often than not they are full blown BSOD crashes.

alright, what is the absolute best av for windows 7?