My Birthday Build

Which combo should I choose?

  • AMD Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.0GHz w/ NVidia GTX 295 (2 x 448MB)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • AMD Phenom II X4 920 @ 2.8GHz w/ ATi HD 4870 X2 (2 x 1GB)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
  • Poll closed .

JerzeyLegend

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For my birthday, the week after next, I am getting parts for a new gaming build.

Here is the LINK to the wish list page on Newegg.com.

I need some opinions, and some help.

1.) I am stuck between GPUs: the GTX 295 or the HD 4870 X2

2.) I am stuck between CPUs: The Phenom II 920 or 940

3.) I need a good but cheap mobo that's easily upgraded.

4.) Any other parts i can get for less money BUT with the same (equal or better performance)

Check out the poll....
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
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Dell XPS 400
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2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
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Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
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29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
Sorry about the poll... I don't know how to edit it.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
Case
Dell XPS 400
Cooling
2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
Mouse
Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
No Intel options?

So I guess 'performance' is not an option either with only AMD on list? :rolleyes:
 

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No Intel options?

So I guess 'performance' is not an option either with only AMD on list? :rolleyes:

I don't want the i7. The Phenom II and i7 go hand in hand. They are on a level plane.

The performance level difference is 10%, being the i7 is 10% better than the Phenom II. For an extra $500, I am going to get a performance boost I won't even notice?

Sorry. I can get the AMD up to 4.0GHz on air. I don't even need that much horsepower.

It actually more or less rests on the choice for GPU. The HD 4870 X2 can play everything, however it can't really get down with Crysis with AA on.

That's why I have decided to just go with the GTX 925.

I am actually quite disappointed with CPUs. We have been in the 2.5-2.8GHz range for too long now. We should have 3.5-4.0GHz stock CPUs by now. Not overclocked either.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
Case
Dell XPS 400
Cooling
2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
Mouse
Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
I agree with Scara.... I'm going intel. I haven't yet decided but have narrowed it down to either the E8400 or Q6600 paired with either ASUS P5Q Pro or P5Q-E. Good pick with the G.Skill RAM though, that is on my list too.

I have always been an intel fan. Even when they lagged behind the the processor war.
Still I must question your decision to pair a $75 MB with a $500 video card and $230 processor. Surely a more even pairing would be in order. Unless AMD's boards are really that cheap to make compared to intel's??

I would hardly make the comparison of the X4 to the i7... it would be a more fair comparison to make against the Q9550 or Q9650.... at least on practical performance.

But to your original question I would have picked A. IMHO the 4870x2 is superior to the GTX 295.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate, Signature Edition 64bit
CPU
Intel C2D e7400 2.8ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
G.Skill F2-6200CL5D-4GBPQ (4gigs)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon 4830
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Asus
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
500 GB Seagate 7200.11 SATA
2TB WD Green
2TB WD Green (having issues with this one)
PSU
550 Watt Cooler Master Real Power
Case
Cooler Master CM 690
Cooling
air
Keyboard
old
Mouse
older
Internet Speed
cable modem
I am probably not gonna get anyone to agree with me on the AMD. The i7 is too expensive for it's kind of power.

BANG FOR BUCK, the AMD is better.

EDIT: Please still fill out the poll. Just choose OTHER if you disagree.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
Case
Dell XPS 400
Cooling
2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
Mouse
Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
You have a great point... bang for the buck AMD is great. I will likely pick one up for a home server after I upgrade my main machine.

Intel's i7 has great potential... but I'm not ready to give up that much bank for it yet. The "low end" i7 920 is a great buy... but the MB support for the i7 will run you $300 and the RAM will run another $200.... just makes it too much money for right now. Cant wait to see where they take it though. Just look at what the Core 2 Duo/Quad did from start to finish.

Oh yeah, Happy Birthday!
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate, Signature Edition 64bit
CPU
Intel C2D e7400 2.8ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
G.Skill F2-6200CL5D-4GBPQ (4gigs)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon 4830
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Asus
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
500 GB Seagate 7200.11 SATA
2TB WD Green
2TB WD Green (having issues with this one)
PSU
550 Watt Cooler Master Real Power
Case
Cooler Master CM 690
Cooling
air
Keyboard
old
Mouse
older
Internet Speed
cable modem
I agree with Scara.... I'm going intel. I haven't yet decided but have narrowed it down to either the E8400 or Q6600 paired with either ASUS P5Q Pro or P5Q-E. Good pick with the G.Skill RAM though, that is on my list too.

I have always been an intel fan. Even when they lagged behind the the processor war.
Still I must question your decision to pair a $75 MB with a $500 video card and $230 processor. Surely a more even pairing would be in order. Unless AMD's boards are really that cheap to make compared to intel's??

I would hardly make the comparison of the X4 to the i7... it would be a more fair comparison to make against the Q9550 or Q9650.... at least on practical performance.

But to your original question I would have picked A. IMHO the 4870x2 is superior to the GTX 295.

Really? What about the benchmarks? I wish someone would do an extensive benchmark. All is see are charts, unbalanced platforms in which these are testing.

Some tests say it's good, some say it's not. The benchmarks are up and down.

Check out this page for me... perhaps you can decipher it for me. Also yes, AMD boards are not alot of money.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 400 / HP ProBook 4510s
OS
Windows 7 Build 7277
CPU
Intel Pentium D @ 2.8/Intel Centrino @ 2.10GHz
Motherboard
Dell DXP051
Memory
2GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
GeForce 7300 LE / Intel Integrated Graphics 4 Series
Sound Card
Realtek AC'97
Monitor(s) Displays
17" CRT (for now) / 15.6" LCD / 65" DLP Mitsubishi
Screen Resolution
1280 x 768 / 1920 x 1080i
Hard Drives
250GB WD IDE
160GB WD SATA
320GB Samsung SATA
500GB WD Caviar Green SATA
250GB WD SATA in HP ProBook
Case
Dell XPS 400
Cooling
2 fans (1 case, 1 CPU)
Keyboard
Dell Slim Standard Keyboard / Full Keypad w/ number pad
Mouse
Dell 3-Button Mouse / Logitech Wireless Mouse
Internet Speed
29mbps Down; 3.0mbps Up
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