Solved Myths about FX8350 performance

[ganjiry]

Never! It looks really good enit, you can see each strand of hair in Tomb Raider.
I'm still lost in the Nvidia control panel lol. I see a lot of people use Nvidia inspector to tweak the driver for different games and oc'n but it looks a bit over my head but people seem to be getting good results with it.

 

[Solarstarshines]

Never! It looks really good enit, you can see each strand of hair in Tomb Raider.
I'm still lost in the Nvidia control panel lol. I see a lot of people use Nvidia inspector to tweak the driver for different games and oc'n but it looks a bit over my head but people seem to be getting good results with it.

when you overclock the CPU do you use FSB because that makes the memory faster if you are doing just multi that might be your issue CPU might be Bottlenecking you not sure but I noticed that you have a formula board you should have sick results

also keep in mind if you use the FSB with the Corsair ram I would max oc it to 1765mhz you can get 1800mhz stock voltage but performance degrades so taking it to 1744 to 1765mhz HT2400
your chip will scream some more

So you don't get the tressfx effects with the 670's ?

 

[ganjiry]

No mate i've not really messed with the fsb much since i first got my cpu. I know i'd get better results but just have'nt got around to it trying again. Thats probably just down to patience though
I'll have a day at it some time soon and see what i can come up with.

At the moment it 22.5 multi on the cpu, Cpu/nb 2400, HT 2400 and ram @ 1600 stock timmings.
Edit i think it was around 1760 ish i had it beofre but not stable so gabe up trying with the mem.

 

[Solarstarshines]

well not all ram is the same but I found my peak at about 1765 on stock voltage but degrades at 1800mhz

if you get the ram to a 218 FSB and a Multi of 21 should be your overoverclock or Multi 20 fsb 220 1.46 v-core llc high on both Power optimized power delivery high

 

[ganjiry]

Cheers chap i'll make a note of that and try some settings but at the min my H100 has started making the dreaded grinding noise so keeping an eye on things at the min. I may be without a pc for a couple of wks if i have to rma it

 

[Solarstarshines]

Corsair is good about RMA but for you the waiting time is insane in the meantime throw on a stock cooler or a cheap aftermarket one till your H100 comes back your overclock is mild so it wouldn't be to bad to go stock till it comes back

 

[ganjiry]

Its still got about 10 days warranty left with the online store i bought it from so it should be quicker than sending it to corsair. Hopefully! but yeah i'll have to find another cooler for the time being.

 

[Solarstarshines]

Yeah I would get to work on that they might just do a even exchange which will be a plus and no longer then 5 to 7 days of waiting time

I just sent one of my waterloops to Antec 620 khuler I have another one I installed already so when I get this new one that I am waiting on along with the new AX850 I have im going to either get the other buildozer rig going or keep it throw a 3770k and a Asrock board and I still have a 6870 with lucid MVP I could increase it to 7870 or better just a thought though because at this point there would be no need

so in long run be smarter just to build around my other bulldozer 8120 and try to sell it for atleast 1000 with all the sh*ts and Giggles

 

[ganjiry]

Yeah i'm gonna have to mate as this noise is doing my head right in, it's not very loud but its loud enough to really anoy me lol. I'll start the process with the seller but it will be 2 wks b4 i can get another coole to tide me over. Ebuyer are'nt the quickest with their rma's.
Lol been stocking up on parts ent ya If it was me i'd chuck it all together n cash it in if it was just sat doing nothing. Otherwise selling it later will net you a lot less enit. Unless you have a use for it that is.

 

[Solarstarshines]

true I could get about 200.00 back for it
and 60 bucks for the cooler in reality though im going to rotate and give someone my old AM2+ with a 965BE and 8 gigs of ram 750Gb Seagate im keeping my SSD from that rig Corsair force 80Gb
also a HD5770 installed 600w coolmax yes cheap Psu my first one at the time didn't know better lol but it works so i'll give that one to dad and go ahead and hook the other one up to be a newer generation so they'll last a while and I can always get another 8350 and get it up to full scale

 

[ganjiry]

nice 1, Sounds like a plan to me mate.
I want to get one of those 8350's later in the year when the price comes down a bit more and just stick it in the cupboard for a while or maybe chuck my 6100 in there. That way then i'll get a couple more years out my board. Otherwise nobody will be stocking them when the next cpu/socket comes out.

 

[Solarstarshines]

The Steamroller might be on a AM3+ socket but not sure
If there is to be another socket I hope to god it is backwards compatible with the chips we have now

 

[ganjiry]

Lets hope so aye mate, It makes upgrading easier as it can be done in steps instead of needing a new motherboard with every different cpu.

 

[ganjiry]

So you don't get the tressfx effects with the 670's ?

Sorry chap i missed this question before. I've only ever seen TresFX mentioned with AMD but i maybe wrong.
I just defaulted my bios ready to try some settings like you suggested and now my h100 has stopped making that noise. So i'm thinking it may have been down to the voltage the cpu fan header was putting out

 

[kbrady1979]

AMD will never be able to compete with Intel on desktop CPU's because they sold off their foundry awhile back. They can't make architecture changes like they want, and they can't reduce die size like they want........they will design around what the foundry can produce at that particular moment. That is not to say they don't have good products out there, not at all.......but they are severely limited in that aspect. Intel will still make more powerful CPU's core-for-core and clock-for-clock, and AMD will still put out good value CPU's. There is a reason why their top of the line CPU is around $200......it's because that's what level it competes at with Intel. Good thing about AMD is the price of their motherboards. You can get a top of the line AMD CPU and a top of the line motherboard quite a bit cheaper than it's direct competitor from Intel. All that is good stuff!

 

[Solarstarshines]

FX Hot Fixes Microsoft

Here are the Hot Fixes that everyone is talking about to Increase AMD FX performance


An update that selectively disables the Core Parking feature in Windows 7 or in Windows Server 2008 R2 is available

An update is available for computers that have an AMD FX, AMD Opteron 4200, AMD Opteron 6200, or AMD Bulldozer series processor installed and that are running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2

These disable core parking and better coding for WIN7

 

[ganjiry]

Here are the Hot Fixes that everyone is talking about to Increase AMD FX performance

These disable core parking and better coding for WIN7

Are these the same hot fixes that were released after the Bulldozer or are they newer?

 

[Solarstarshines]

Same one's you probably are talking about i never used them personally

but these hotfixes are always a topic on the latest web videos and such thought i would post them just because too many people still ask or bring them up when i think windows incorporated them into a update somehow as you seen 2 bulldozer rigs on here i have played with and i never complained about sh**** results

Average person can't even tell how fast anything is going unless there benching it known fact and you know you can bring people over show them how fast you rig boots etc etc and not even know you were using AMD until you started spilling out the specs some people are like hypnotize at the fact that Intel can jump all over any AMD with performance but.............I feel that now more and more people are starting to build rigs people who are not to sure what to get and don't want to spend a ton start looking at the budget side of things

I been on a lot of forums where they say only the poor buy AMD that's a fools statement because everyone knows Rich well off people are the most stingy and frugal people you will run into and usually they will get free everything just for being them

Now there is a thing if you work hard for it sure why not you deserve to spend your money on what you think is the best and that is how it should be for me i stuck with AMD because i put learning into what i am doing with this rig the more i learn the more i can do

I don't hate Intel or Nvidia always owned there products till recently I think in general sense i got every bit of what i paid for and if it gets beat by someone else that is cool but i know for a short while i got more system power than the average joe so that makes me happy i'm never surprised about seeing kick ass Rigs Tech is always changing and first adpaters give you a better scale of things

Personally i think I've done well showing people how to properly clock a FX chip with good results i'm not to keen on how all these other guys are just throwing voltage around without other adjustments it's an art not a paid hooker

 

[ganjiry]

Agree'd I didn't know about the hot fixes myself untill i came across them by accident on another forum and when i searched just to see if they were legit i only found a couple of reference's to them. So yes mate it's good that you shared them. i always forget about them after a clean os install too lol.
Ya doing a grand job at helping folk with BD/PD oc's too.
Nice 1 chap

 

[Solarstarshines]

Why is my CPU out of control ??????

I don't know either to be happy or to be worried :sarc:

I been messing with my clock settings and backed off my FSB Oc and focused on using the Multi

but ......... before doing so I noticed my clocks spiking up and down spiking at least 2 to 6 increments on the FSB from 208 to 214 at times and my speed gets bumped up high then goes back down to what it was set

I took a screen shot as example Core temp shows 4.904 Ghz Cpuz Shows up clocking to 5046Ghz :shock:


Everything is stable and the up clocking did impact the system as in getting higher benches also it is very stable and I am not using AMD turbo mode it is off

I went as far as to update the bios and reset everything to default it still does this I just recently had a conversation with Ganjiry about this he says this happens with all AMD chips first time I have seen this anyone else have seen this before?