ndis.sys latency issue

babar104

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hello all,

I am a professional audio designer and I use an external audio card for performance playback,
however, recently, I have started to have problems with audio dropouts because of this service.
I understand that it is a networking driver, but I have never had issues with it until recently. What
is more confusing is that the problem persists when I disconnect from a network and it is not in use.
I am puzzled by this and since I do a lot of work in a mobile environment with my laptop, it is
driving me up the wall. I cannot find a solution. It is a necessary driver and I understand that this same driver has caused a lot of problems including bsod's for people.

Why would it start doing this "out of nowhere"? also, I performed a full factory default restore on the machine including service pack and all updates. ndis.sys STILL runs at an average of 3ms.

Any idea on what can cause this and how to fix this?
 

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Wow, 99 views and no one has had to deal with this?
 

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Hello babar104 and welcome to the forums :party:

Firstly, I would like you to download and run this Latency Checker:

DPC Latency Checker

Upload a screenshot when it is analysing the latency please (let it run for a minute or so before taking a screenshot).

Then open your Start Menu and in the search box, type Power Options then click on it. Click Change plan settings next to your current power plan, then click Change advanced power settings. Then expand Wireless Adapter Settings > Power Saving Mode. Change both of these to Maximum Performance.

Then reboot and take another screenshot of Latency Checker and upload it as well please :)

Tom
 

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Hi tom982,

Way ahead of you there, ive used DPC latency checker, and Latencymon already, AND have changed my power options to high performance. I have even gone into the advanced power options and switched to "optimize for performance over appearance" with the same results, however, if it helps, I will switch them back, and post the "before and after" screenies for you:) thank you for the reply:)
 

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Acer Aspire 5552
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Athlon II x2 P340
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3836 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory (4g ddr3)
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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
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ATI High Definition Audio Device / Realtek High Definition A
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Generic PnP Monitor (15.7"vis)
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ST9250315AS [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 6VCPJHFZ, rev 0001SDM1, SMART Status: Healthy
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Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery
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I have a recording studio, using Sonar X2.

What audio interface unit are you using? Also filling in the My System Spec's would help.

Wi-Fi is one known cause of noise spikes. Buffers in the recording program and the recording devices buffer settings will also have an affect.

I have a Laptop that I use for "on site" recordings and I disable the wi-fi when I record. I have two USB audio interface units that I use, a Roland Octa-Capture and an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R. Neither unit has any noise issues with the Laptop.
 

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Hi tom982,

Way ahead of you there, ive used DPC latency checker, and Latencymon already, AND have changed my power options to high performance. I have even gone into the advanced power options and switched to "optimize for performance over appearance" with the same results, however, if it helps, I will switch them back, and post the "before and after" screenies for you:) thank you for the reply:)

Hi babar,

No need to do that then, if it hasn't worked then the problem lies elsewhere :) Thanks for letting me know.

Tom
 

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I have a recording studio, using Sonar X2.

What audio interface unit are you using? Also filling in the My System Spec's would help.

Wi-Fi is one known cause of noise spikes. Buffers in the recording program and the recording devices buffer settings will also have an affect.

I have a Laptop that I use for "on site" recordings and I disable the wi-fi when I record. I have two USB audio interface units that I use, a Roland Octa-Capture and an MAudio Fastrack Ultra 8R. Neither unit has any noise issues with the Laptop.

Hello fireberd, I filled in my specs for you. I also have a recording studio, using Cubase 5 for recording / composition, and Ableton live 8 for performance. I am aware that the issue is wi-fi related.

It is just baffling that up to this point, I had no problems using my current external usb audio interface, a Native Instruments Traktor Audio 2 - NATIVE INSTRUMENTS, and my wi-fi, at the same time. I had been using both ever since I purchased this audio interface, about 8 months ago, however, I was using wi-fi in a home network environment, but also never disabled my wi-fi on the road, I had never had any problems. I have also done some research on the service and it's .dll, the ndis.sys, which is the culprit in this matter. No service on my machine except ndis.sys runs at or above 1ms. ndis.sys continually runs at 3ms. I do believe this is a new development as my friend was just over at my house not 2 days ago, wi-fi enabled, installed my audio interface on his laptop (an HP) and the card had no drop-outs.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Aspire 5552
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Athlon II x2 P340
Motherboard
Acer JE51_DN V2.10
Memory
3836 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory (4g ddr3)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
Sound Card
ATI High Definition Audio Device / Realtek High Definition A
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (15.7"vis)
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
ST9250315AS [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 6VCPJHFZ, rev 0001SDM1, SMART Status: Healthy
PSU
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery
Case
OEM
Cooling
OEM
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad [Mouse]

My Computer

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My Own Build
OS
Windows 10 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
Memory
16GB Corsair Dominator
Graphics Card(s)
Intel CPU Graphics
Sound Card
RealTek
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Dell S2719dgf
Screen Resolution
2560X1440
Hard Drives
1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Pro
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
2 TB drive for backup
PSU
EVGA Supernova 750G2
Case
BeQuiet Silent Base 600
Cooling
Deepcool Captain 120EX
Keyboard
Microsoft Wireless 2000
Mouse
Microsoft wireless
Internet Speed
100 MB/sec (Cable)
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Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes
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Edge/Firefox
Other Info
Cakewalk (Sonar) by BandLab and Studio One 4.1 Pro recording studio software. MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero BurningROM
The Atheros driver is the correct driver for this machine. There are 2 versions of this model laptop, the 5552, and the 5552g that i am aware of. I do not know what the difference is, maybe it's regional. However, i installed the broadcom driver out of curiosity, and it is not compatible with this machine, no dice:(

funny, i had been to acers support several times and got a completely different download section than that page 0.o
 

My Computer

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Acer Aspire 5552
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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Athlon II x2 P340
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Acer JE51_DN V2.10
Memory
3836 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory (4g ddr3)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
Sound Card
ATI High Definition Audio Device / Realtek High Definition A
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (15.7"vis)
Screen Resolution
1366x768
Hard Drives
ST9250315AS [Hard drive] (250.06 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 6VCPJHFZ, rev 0001SDM1, SMART Status: Healthy
PSU
Microsoft ACPI-Compliant Control Method Battery
Case
OEM
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OEM
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Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad [Mouse]
Found Wierd Latency Problem

I want to thank all for the tips. My latency problem would only happen after I had left my PC and came back later. Now it makes sense. All were saying drivers and wifi. That was close I guess, but what fixed my problem was taking the Powersaver option off of my wireless wifi device. So the delay in having the latency problem was when the power to the wireless wifi was automatically shut off.

Very strange, and would love to hear from anyone that can explain this further. I also noticed that if I disabled my wifi wireless adapter (it is a desktop and I really do not need it at this time) latency issues when off the charts with the latency checker program.

This should help all those that have had to reboot to have the latency issue clear.
 

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