Need a Gaming Laptop - Budget INR 45K

[friend863]

I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?

 

[Chalky Emultion]

I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?

This laptop isn't really optimized for gaming. A core i7 with a GT 630M makes non-sense for it. GT 630M is a mid/low-end graphics card, while a Core i7 is a high-end CPU. You should try to balance the CPU power and the graphics card power.

Get a laptop with at least a Core i3-i5 processor and a Nvidia GeForce GT 650M - AMD Radeon HD 7770M to have decent gaming.

It is better if the graphics card has got GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR3 memory. GDDR5 will boost performance by a lot than GDDR3.

 

[AstaLaVista]

Unless you use hypertreading for school work, having an i7 is way over the top for a gaming rig or laptop.

+1 on what Nik said... go with an i3 or i5 and a better graphics card. Heat/Fire is the Devil's only friend so make sure the laptop will have plenty or room to dissipate heat, otherwise, you're going to be having nightmares with shut downs and/or BSODs

 

[sygnus21]

I am a student who lives in hostel and have to satisfy my gaming needs also so I am desperately looking for gaming laptop among the above budget. I am keeping an eye on this Asus Laptop Asus K55VM-SX086D Laptop (3rd Gen Ci7/ 8GB/ 1TB/ DOS/ 2GB Graph) - Asus: Flipkart.com. Do you think it will be a good choice or would you recommend any other?

This laptop isn't really optimized for gaming. A core i7 with a GT 630M makes non-sense for it. GT 630M is a mid/low-end graphics card, while a Core i7 is a high-end CPU. You should try to balance the CPU power and the graphics card power.

Get a laptop with at least a Core i3-i5 processor and a Nvidia GeForce GT 650M - AMD Radeon HD 7770M to have decent gaming.

It is better if the graphics card has got GDDR5 memory instead of GDDR3 memory. GDDR5 will boost performance by a lot than GDDR3.

On the other hand I'm not really seeing where an i-3 would make a lot of sense here either :huh:

Agree with the balance, but I'd much rather have an i7 with a GT 630/770, than an i3 with either of those cards, especially the money the OP is intending on throwing at the machine.

And yeah, I agree, a desktop would be the better way to go... regardless of laptop hardware.

 

[Chalky Emultion]

If he wants to do gaming, i3/i5 + 650m/7770m is long way better than i7+630m. You don't need an i7 for gaming and a good core i3 CPU is enough for gaming.

 

[Contrabardus]

You should have no trouble with a 45k price limit. Most high end gaming laptops are only at around 25k or so [assuming you mean US currency] unless you're buying an uber suped up Alienware rig or something.

This one is nice: Amazon.com: MSI G Series GE70 2OE-017US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black/Red): Computers & Accessories

It has a 17.5 inch 1080p screen, 3.2ghz quad core i7, a GTX 765m GPU, a 750 GB HDD. It weighs 6 lbs and only costs $1,299.99 on Amazon.

Here's a similar laptop with a GTX 770m, a 1TB HDD, 2 120GB SSD, 24gb of Ram...which is way more than you'll ever likely need, and the same CPU. It's $1,899.99 and is an absolute horse of a laptop that will tear through games with ease.

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT70-2OC-...r=1-5&keywords=Gaming+Notebook#productDetails

The second would be the best obviously, but the first is more than sufficient for pretty much any game on the market at medium to high settings. The second laptop would allow you to play more games at maxed out settings though, has more storage space, two SSD which will reduce loading times for games you have on those drives, and isn't that much more than the first considering what you get under the hood.

That's more than enough to run any game on the market at decent settings if not maxed out settings. A great portable gaming rig and far under your 45k limit. Use some of the extra cash to get a nice gaming mouse, a copy of Windows 7, and a few games and you're good to go with this.

An i7 is nice to have for gaming even if you don't 'need' it. I've got one and it flies. I can tear through any physics engine in a game with no problems. Overkill or not, getting an i7 is a good idea because it will make the laptop last longer as a relevant gaming rig.

I also recommend getting at least 3.0ghz in the CPU. Most games don't require it, but it's nice to have anyway and the less load you're putting on your GPU and CPU, the less heat they generate. That's important in a laptop especially if you're running graphics intensive games like BF 3, Batman Arkham Origins/City, or Crysis 3 on high settings.

It's better to overdo things if it is within your budget than to get 'just what you need' and have to upgrade or replace your laptop sooner. Plus, having higher end components means less strain from heavy loads and a longer life for the laptop as a result.

Just make sure you get Windows 7 as the OS. Even if you have to buy and install it yourself. A lot of games don't get along well with Windows 8. The recent upgrade to Windows 8.1 has helped a little, but it's not fixed either. Windows 7 will run any recent PC game and it's the OS you want for a machine that is mostly intended for playing games. You probably will need to buy it and install it yourself unless you get something custom made. Most new PCs and laptops come with Windows 8 as the standard OS now. It's not difficult to do, just make sure you back up anything you don't want lost if you start using your PC and load stuff onto it before you change the OS. I recommend doing it immediately if possible.

 

[Chalky Emultion]

You should have no trouble with a 45k price limit. Most high end gaming laptops are only at around 25k or so [assuming you mean US currency] unless you're buying an uber suped up Alienware rig or something.

This one is nice: Amazon.com: MSI G Series GE70 2OE-017US 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black/Red): Computers & Accessories

It has a 17.5 inch 1080p screen, 3.2ghz quad core i7, a GTX 765m GPU, a 750 GB HDD. It weighs 6 lbs and only costs $1,299.00 on Amazon.

That's more than enough to run any game on the market at decent settings if not maxed out settings. A great portable gaming rig and far under your 45k limit. Use some of the extra cash to get a nice gaming mouse, a copy of Windows 7, and a few games and you're good to go with this.

An i7 is nice to have for gaming even if you don't 'need' it. I've got one and it flies. I can tear through any physics engine in a game with no problems. Overkill or not, getting an i7 is a good idea because it will make the laptop last longer as a relevant gaming rig.

I also recommend getting at least 3.0ghz in the CPU. Most games don't require it, but it's nice to have anyway and the less load you're putting on your GPU and CPU, the less heat they generate. That's important in a laptop especially if you're running graphics intensive games like BF 3, Batman Arkham Origins/City, or Crysis 3 on high settings.

It's better to overdo things if it is within your budget than to get 'just what you need' and have to upgrade or replace your laptop sooner. Plus, having higher end components means less strain from heavy loads and a longer life for the laptop as a result.

Just make sure you get Windows 7 as the OS. Even if you have to buy and install it yourself. A lot of games don't get along well with Windows 8. The recent upgrade to Windows 8.1 has helped a little, but it's not fixed either. Windows 7 will run any recent PC game and it's the OS you want for a machine that is mostly intended for playing games. You probably will need to buy it and install it yourself unless you get something custom made. Most new PCs and laptops come with Windows 8 as the standard OS now. It's not difficult to do, just make sure you back up anything you don't want lost if you start using your PC and load stuff onto it before you change the OS. I recommend doing it immediately if possible.

He said "Budget INR 45K", which means less than 800 american dollars.

Also a core i7 is a complete overkill for gaming. Only if you use extra high end graphics cards it makes sense, but if you stay at GT 650M - GTX 660M levels, a Core i7 or a dual Core i3 would not make difference in gaming performance. Also phisics engine is rendered by Nvidia GPUs directly with a strong performance improve than CPU phisics rendering. And also CPU frequency doesn't matter, just don't go above 2,40 GHz if you can. 2,40 GHz or 3,0 GHz makes no performance difference in games.

It's at least impossible to find a new gaming laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled, all now comes with Windows 8, which is much faster than WIndows 7 in desktop operations, but lacks compatibility with some old games.

If you want a gaming laptop, don't care immediatly about CPUs. The first thing you should look at is the graphics card you have in it. Forgot to play games at decent setting/framerates with less than a Nvidia GTX 660M or an AMD HD 7850M.

A GT 630M, like an HD 7670M, should be able to play some games at low settings @60fps, but some games are really unplayable even at lowest settings: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Another suggestion: 17.3" are very heavy and big laptops, if you can look at 15,6" ones.

 

[Contrabardus]

He said "Budget INR 45K", which means less than 800 american dollars.

Also a core i7 is a complete overkill for gaming. Only if you use extra high end graphics cards it makes sense, but if you stay at GT 650M - GTX 660M levels, a Core i7 or a dual Core i3 would not make difference in gaming performance. Also phisics engine is rendered by Nvidia GPUs directly with a strong performance improve than CPU phisics rendering. And also CPU frequency doesn't matter, just don't go above 2,40 GHz if you can. 2,40 GHz or 3,0 GHz makes no performance difference in games.

It's at least impossible to find a new gaming laptop with Windows 7 preinstalled, all now comes with Windows 8, which is much faster than WIndows 7 in desktop operations, but lacks compatibility with some old games.

If you want a gaming laptop, don't care immediatly about CPUs. The first thing you should look at is the graphics card you have in it. Forgot to play games at decent setting/framerates with less than a Nvidia GTX 660M or an AMD HD 7850M.

A GT 630M, like an HD 7670M, should be able to play some games at low settings @60fps, but some games are really unplayable even at lowest settings: NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M - NotebookCheck.net Tech

Another suggestion: 17.3" are very heavy and big laptops, if you can look at 15,6" ones.

Didn't notice the INR in the title. Not sure if it was ninja edited, or if I just didn't notice. Probably the latter. Anyway, it's still doable.

Just surf Amazon, NewEgg, or TigerDirect and look for a deal. I highly recommend making sure it's a quad core and at least 2.4 ghz on the CPU if you're looking to play games. $800 is enough to get something that will run most games on medium-high settings, and really intensive games like newer COD games, Battlefield 4, Far Cry 3, Crysis 3, and similar titles should run on low settings pretty well at a decent framerate.

CPU frequency does matter. Most newer games recommend somewhere around 2.4ghz, and there are a few that require 3.0 or better. 2.4 should be plenty. Also, quad core. That actually makes a bigger difference than the frequency. Having the extra threads makes a huge difference in games.

Nvidia's PhysX tech is rather unimpressive. It's not as much of a load off the CPU as they'd like you to believe. Though, yes, it does take some of the load off of the CPU so I do recommend an Nvidia chip over an AMD GPU for a laptop rig.

I've never had trouble running PhysX on an AMD card with a decent CPU though. So an i7 with a decent AMD graphics card is just as good as an i5 with an Nvidia card that supports PhysX. It's more a marketing ploy than 'breakthrough technology'. It's a minor factor to be honest and a decent CPU can do anything the Nvidia GPU physics system can do easily.

Protip: Since OP is on a budget, check out the refurbished laptops. You can get a better laptop for less money that way. Yes it's used, but it should pretty much be in like new condition with maybe a few superficial blemishes on the outer casing. The trade off of better tech is worth getting something slightly used in that situation.

 

[Chalky Emultion]

Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.

 

[Chalky Emultion]

I have a laptop with dual core i5 3230M and GTX 660M. I tried upgrading to an i7 3630QM: i noticed ZERO fps increase in games I returned to my Core i5 and I sold the i7.

Don't waste money on high end CPUs: try to balance CPU and GPU, for example an i5 3230M and a GTX 660M are a good choiche to play in 1080p @ medium settings a lot of games.

 

[smarteyeball]

Don't waste money on high end CPUs: try to balance CPU and GPU, for example an i5 3230M and a GTX 660M are a good choiche to play in 1080p @ medium settings a lot of games.

Yep. When it comes to laptop gaming, the biggest impact is the GPU. Aim for the best moblie GPU you can afford. At your budget you have to compromise.

Also 15.6 @ 1366x768 will give you better frames than a 17.3 @ 1080P - higher avg and min at possibly higher IQ settings. Stick with a 15' screen.

On that site there's not much option that's better to choose from.

 

[Contrabardus]

Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.

It varies from game to game. It's largely dependent on how much physics computing the game does. In something like Skyrim, Red Faction, or Borderlands 2 and Batman Arkham City with PhysX effects turned on, it does matter. Less so with an Nvidia GPU with PhysX, but even then it only takes some of the physics processing load off of the CPU. You can get away with a less powerful CPU in physics heavy games with an Nvidia card, but you still need something halfway decent.

Still, you want a quad core CPU at least in a gaming PC regardless of whether it's a tower or a laptop. Regardless of how much the frequency matters, having a quad core does matter in a laptop or PC that has a primary function of playing games. Most games are optimized for quad core CPUs there are even a few newer games that require one. A dual core will do in most situations, but for optimal performance a quad core is important. Those extra threads make a difference and can be the difference between running certain settings on low or high.

What you don't need is a 6-8 core. No game uses more than 4 cores in a CPU. Having the extra cores can actually cause problems with some games. It can actually reduce the performance of a CPU to have too many cores because any more than four won't be used in a game regardless. For modern gaming a quad core is optimal as most new games are programed to take advantage of a quad core CPU's capabilities.

Frequency can be compensated for, but I advise against a dual core CPU for a gaming laptop, even if it's not 'high end'. Most games are made to take advantage of having one these days.

Also, the size of the screen is less important than the resolution. A 17.5" screen will perform the same as a 15" screen at the same resolution. The GPU doesn't work any harder because the screen is bigger. So either way you'll be fine. If framerate is an issue with a 1080p screen, you can lower the resolution in the settings to 1366x768 and it will run just as good as a screen with a native resolution of 1366x768. Don't worry about screen size and resolution if the price is good and it has all the other features you want. On a 15"-18" screen you likely won't notice the difference between 1080 and 768 anyway, and either way the resolution can be adjusted if you need to squeeze a few more frames out of a game.

The only thing a larger screen will impact is battery life, and that's a minimal impact at worst. It may not be an issue at all as a laptop with a larger screen is likely to have a larger battery as well.

 

[Lurry]

Lenovo G505s, AMD A8-5550M 2.1 GHz, 500 GB 5400 RPM, 4GB DDR3, Radeon HD 8550G

 

[Chalky Emultion]

Trust me, CPU frequency will make a difference of max 2 fps in game. I tested it with my i7 3770K: running at 2,5 GHz or 4 GHz makes zero differences in games.

The best way is to find a laptop with a dual core hyperthreaded i5 and a GT 650m/GTX 660m/GT 750m/GTX 760m. This would be the best choiche.

It varies from game to game. It's largely dependent on how much physics computing the game does. In something like Skyrim, Red Faction, or Borderlands 2 and Batman Arkham City with PhysX effects turned on, it does matter. Less so with an Nvidia GPU with PhysX, but even then it only takes some of the physics processing load off of the CPU. You can get away with a less powerful CPU in physics heavy games with an Nvidia card, but you still need something halfway decent.

Still, you want a quad core CPU at least in a gaming PC regardless of whether it's a tower or a laptop. Regardless of how much the frequency matters, having a quad core does matter in a laptop or PC that has a primary function of playing games. Most games are optimized for quad core CPUs there are even a few newer games that require one. A dual core will do in most situations, but for optimal performance a quad core is important. Those extra threads make a difference and can be the difference between running certain settings on low or high.

What you don't need is a 6-8 core. No game uses more than 4 cores in a CPU. Having the extra cores can actually cause problems with some games. It can actually reduce the performance of a CPU to have too many cores because any more than four won't be used in a game regardless. For modern gaming a quad core is optimal as most new games are programed to take advantage of a quad core CPU's capabilities.

Frequency can be compensated for, but I advise against a dual core CPU for a gaming laptop, even if it's not 'high end'. Most games are made to take advantage of having one these days.

Also, the size of the screen is less important than the resolution. A 17.5" screen will perform the same as a 15" screen at the same resolution. The GPU doesn't work any harder because the screen is bigger. So either way you'll be fine. If framerate is an issue with a 1080p screen, you can lower the resolution in the settings to 1366x768 and it will run just as good as a screen with a native resolution of 1366x768. Don't worry about screen size and resolution if the price is good and it has all the other features you want. On a 15"-18" screen you likely won't notice the difference between 1080 and 768 anyway, and either way the resolution can be adjusted if you need to squeeze a few more frames out of a game.

The only thing a larger screen will impact is battery life, and that's a minimal impact at worst. It may not be an issue at all as a laptop with a larger screen is likely to have a larger battery as well.

But when you're looking for a gaming laptop, the first thing you should care is the GPU.

Strong CPU + bad GPU = bad gaming

Mid-end CPU + Mid-end CPU = good gaming.

The problem is that with lesa than 800$ he can't get more than a dual core i5 i think, because If he get an i7 quad core, he wouldn't have money to spend for a good GPU.

I'm trying to balance CPU to GPU with 800 dollars

And stay away from AMD APUs with integrated graphics If you want decent gaming!

 

[AstaLaVista]

I don't know in laptops but in desktop i5 & i7 = Quad Core? i3 = Duo Core?

You are right though, a 500 to 800 laptop is not the ideal gaming laptop at all, unless of course you are looking at very low level games. Those laptops also don't have the ideal temp dissipation fans, although, you can always buy a third party fans.

 

[Chalky Emultion]

desktop i7 = Quad core
desktop i5 = Dual core/Quad Core
desktop i3 = Dual core

laptop i7 = Dual core/Quad Core
laptop i7 = Dual core/Quad Core
laptop i7 = Dual core

the MSI GE60 0ND is a nice gaming laptop for around 800 dollars, featuring the strong dual core i5 3230M and a GTX 660M 2GB GDDR5, which perform as a desktop GTX 650.

 

[DustSailor]

strongest CPUs are great and all, but best is not a good choice when you are on a budget. Try these out, see if one strikes your fancy:
Cheap Gaming Laptops | PCMag.com

800$ is not a lot of money when trying to get top notch gaming computers, and even less when you are trying to get laptops. You'll want to throw the most money at the GPU, as that is the thing that will power your games the most. That and RAM

somewhat more than 800$US off of that list - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392451,00.asp