Need help with memory frequency and timings with a 1600MHz CL9 kit

jayrap

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I recently bought the following RAM

Corsair 8GB (2X4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz Red Vengeance Memory.. | Ebuyer.com

The advertised max tested frequency and timings are 9-9-9-24 at 1600MHz at 1.5v

When in my rig (see my system specs), they default at 9-9-9-24 at 1333MHz at what seems to be 1.6v (when I try to look at the voltage, I have to change it to see what it is so when I [+0.050], I get 1.65v).

These are the timings at 1333MHz
x6.66 Memory clock
9-9-9-24
tWTr Command Delay = 5T
Trfc = 160ns
Write Recovery Times = 10T
Precharge time = 5T
Row Cycle time - 34T
RAS to CAS (or CAS to RAS - I wrote it down as RAS to RAS) = 5T

When I up the memory to 8.00x to 1600MHz I get
11-11-11-29
tWTr Command Delay = 6T
Trfc = 160ns
Write Recovery Times = 12T
Precharge time = 6T
Row cycle time 41T
RAS to CAS (or CAS to RAS - I wrote it down as RAS to RAS) = 6T

If I change the timings and all to what they are at 1333MHz at 1600MHz i.e. 9-9-9-24
tWTr Command Delay = 5T
Trfc = 160ns
Write Recovery Times = 10T
Precharge time = 5T
Row Cycle time - 34T
RAS to CAS (or CAS to RAS - I wrote it down as RAS to RAS) = 5T

...without touching voltage (which seems not to go below 1.6v afaik) then I can't get Windows to boot properly.

Is there anything I can do to get the advertised speeds or should I just stick to 1333MHz?

Systems specs under that arrow thing
 

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Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (st...8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 D...XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3)
Memory
8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste
PSU
Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors
Case
Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans)
Cooling
Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload
Other Info
Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway.
When manually setting the timings only change 9-9-9-24, leave the rest alone. That is likely why Windows is having problems. For the voltage I wouldn't worry about it as from a quick look around at that memory it appears to run just fine at up to 1.65V.
 

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Win 7 Ultimate x64FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so farADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
When manually setting the timings only change 9-9-9-24, leave the rest alone. That is likely why Windows is having problems. For the voltage I wouldn't worry about it as from a quick look around at that memory it appears to run just fine at up to 1.65V.
I'll give it a go - cheers ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (st...8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 D...XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3)
Memory
8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste
PSU
Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors
Case
Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans)
Cooling
Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload
Other Info
Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway.
Booted up fine but BSOD'd during a stability test :P - sticking with 1333MHz for a while
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (st...8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 D...XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3)
Memory
8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste
PSU
Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors
Case
Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans)
Cooling
Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload
Other Info
Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway.
Have you enabled 'XMP' in the bios? That will get it running at the correct speed.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty...i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghzCorsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gbAsus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011
CPU
i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe
Memory
Corsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T220 - Panasonic VT30a 50"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 -
Hard Drives
Corsair Force 3 SSD 120GB x 2 ::
WD VelociRaptor 150GB WD1500HLFS x 2
PSU
Corsair HX-850 Power Supply
Case
Coolmaster HAF 932
Cooling
Corsair H50
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MK700
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MX620
Internet Speed
Good enough for now
Other Info
Voip. Insanely cheap phone calls.
Looked for XMP but can't find it. I have an AMD board so would I find it anyway?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (st...8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 D...XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3)
Memory
8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste
PSU
Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors
Case
Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans)
Cooling
Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload
Other Info
Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway.
Not sure but the board does support the speeds you want. There must be a setting somewhere. Just have to figure out what it is.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty...i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghzCorsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gbAsus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 -- PCLinuxOS KDE4 FullMonty 2011
CPU
i7-875k @ Turbo - 7,6,5,5 - 3.6ghz
Motherboard
Asus P7P55D-E Deluxe
Memory
Corsair CMD8GX3M4A1600C8 8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5850 DirectCU/2DIS/1GD5
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster T220 - Panasonic VT30a 50"
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 -
Hard Drives
Corsair Force 3 SSD 120GB x 2 ::
WD VelociRaptor 150GB WD1500HLFS x 2
PSU
Corsair HX-850 Power Supply
Case
Coolmaster HAF 932
Cooling
Corsair H50
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MK700
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MX620
Internet Speed
Good enough for now
Other Info
Voip. Insanely cheap phone calls.
There is no XMP setting on AMD motherboards, that is an Intel setting. As far as it running at 1600 MHz (or not in your case), might want to give this a read,

DDR3 Memory Scaling On AMD's Phenom II X4 : Which RAM Speed Is Best?

You're not really losing much if anything performance wise, and with the right timings it is actually better to run at 1333 MHz.

Also one more thing to remember, the IMC (integrated memory controller) only really supports running the memory up to 1333 MHz,

VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING AMD AM3 CPU's and RAM SPEEDS
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 7 Ultimate x64FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so farADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
There is no XMP setting on AMD motherboards, that is an Intel setting. As far as it running at 1600 MHz (or not in your case), might want to give this a read,

DDR3 Memory Scaling On AMD's Phenom II X4 : Which RAM Speed Is Best?

You're not really losing much if anything performance wise, and with the right timings it is actually better to run at 1333 MHz.

Also one more thing to remember, the IMC (integrated memory controller) only really supports running the memory up to 1333 MHz,

VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION REGARDING AMD AM3 CPU's and RAM SPEEDS
That's useful info - I'll just stay at 1333MHz 9-9-9-24 after reading the second article ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (st...8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 D...XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 Home-Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (stock) with CM V8
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P (AM3)
Memory
8GB Corsair Red Vengeance @1333MHz 9-9-9-24 Dual-Channel
Graphics Card(s)
XFX AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB (stock)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek Azalea 8.1 Channel
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2250 DVI-D
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60Hz
Hard Drives
1. 60GB (55.7GiB) Corsair Force 3 SSD (firmware 1.3.3) SATA III (in SATA II mode) - contains OS, drivers and non-game programs
2. 500GB (465GiB) Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATA II 7,200rpm 16MB Cache - contains games
3. 250GB (232GiB) Weste
PSU
Corsair TX750W 750W PSU with 4x PCI-E 6+2-pin connectors
Case
Lancool [Lian Li] PC-K62 Dragonlord (originally w/blue fans)
Cooling
Lian Li: 3x140mm, 1x120mm | Bitfenix: 1x140mm - ALL RED LED
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
BT Infinity Option 2 ~38Mbps download, ~8Mbps upload
Other Info
Also have a Logitech G27 Racing Wheel, Creative Fatal1ty Stereo headset, Logitech X-140 Stereo Speakers, a disused Xbox 360 USB game controller pad and a CM Storm WoC M4 Mouse mat. The *GB of Corsair Red Vengeance DRAM is the CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R set which can run at 1600MHz at 9-9-9-24 in Intel's XMP but my AMD board doesn't have this and it's not recommended for AMD Phenom II's anyway.
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