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I need to update Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.2 to the latest version. (4.6.1)
(I need .NET for QTTabBar program -- an addon for Windows Explorer)

According to this ITECHTICS webpage, if I run the 4.6 offline installer it will overwrite my current 4.5.2.

Microsoft's own .NET Blog advises to use the Windows Automatic Updates,
- of course they wouldn't silently dump Win10 on me, would they ? :shock: :sa:

FileHippo are pushing 4.6.1,
I haven't downloaded anything yet and would prefer to do an offline install or update.

My knowledge of .NET is zero so I would appreciate some expert advice. Thank you :).
 

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Hi,
Indeed I always get it from Micro... no need for torrents ;)
4.6.1 though that one is buggy make sure you really really want what ever requires it :p
 

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if I run the 4.6 offline installer it will overwrite my current 4.5.2.

Yes, it will replace your current install. This isn't a problem as .NET as a great record on backward compatibility, I wouldn't expect any trouble at all with any other program using it, it will simply switch to use the upgraded version.

Basically, all the 4.X versions are just minor updates over the main 4.0 release. Any of those will simply replace the former version and software can use the one it was compiled against, or any latter without trouble. This is a little different with 2.0 and 3.5 though.


Microsoft's own .NET Blog advises to use the Windows Automatic Updates,
- of course they wouldn't silently dump Win10 on me, would they ? :shock: :sa:

:roflmao:
Of course the will!

Now seriously, you can use any method to get it (Windows Update, Offline installer or web "installer) and it will yield the same result in the end. And I expect the update for it to be clean of any malware Microsoft is delivering though updates recently, so if you're careful, it's a valid and safe way too (be careful if you don't want to get infected by the GWX virus though).

My preferred method is the offline installer. Just download it from the official website and run to install. The reason: it's the only way you can get a backup of the install media, and if you have many computers you can save some bandwidth.


FileHippo are pushing 4.6.1,
I haven't downloaded anything yet and would prefer to do an offline install or update.

NEVER, EVER download anything from a third party website!
A frequent scam is for websites to offer unofficial mirrors and then infect the downloads they provide with additional installers (toolbars, spyware, antiviruses, adware, anything unrelated with what you want), in addition to providing out of date versions from time to time. There is no reason to ever use it, stick with the official developer websites, not just for this one, but for all software you use.

In the case of the real, "offline" installer, get it from there:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49982

The stub "web installer" can be downloaded here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=49981


Hi,
Indeed I always get it from Micro... no need for torrents ;)
4.6.1 though that one is buggy make sure you really really want what ever requires it :p

Who mentioned torrents? Besides, .NET 4 is around 60MB, hardly worth a torrent (they're an excellent option for larger downloads though).

4.6.1 buggy? Where does that come from? Do you have any references from serious sources?
 

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Hi,
I'm a serious source :p

Beside I uninstall Net 4.6.1 and install 4.5.2 the update system works that is my "is buggy" conclusion ;)
 

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Hi,
I'm a serious source :p

Beside I uninstall Net 4.6.1 and install 4.5.2 the update system works that is my "is buggy" conclusion ;)
I'm coding with 4.6.1 and I've had no issues since it came out. It's certainly not buggy for me. :D
 

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Hi,
I'm not coding and the only reason I have net 4... is because one program requires it otherwise I'd get rid of Net.
 

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Hi,
Indeed I always get it from Micro... no need for torrents ;)
4.6.1 though that one is buggy make sure you really really want what ever requires it :p

Who mentioned torrents? Besides, .NET 4 is around 60MB, hardly worth a torrent (they're an excellent option for larger downloads though).

He has no idea what a torrent is, everything that isn't from the source is a torrent to him.
 

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I have had .Net Framework 4.6.1 since 1/27/2016 on both of my system and have no problems.
I'm not sure what uses it and when but it has caused zero problems.
I personally would not get any Windows 7 update from any place but Microsoft sites.

I have never looked for other sites but their are probable some out their in the world.
 

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Hi,
If internet explorer is not a requirement to get a Micro... product why would anyone suggest file hippo..... to get a product ?
It makes no practical sense

It might be different if someone had to deal with the Micro... catalog to get a product
But in this case one does not.
Call places like this what you want too and I'll do the same ;)
Just because one doesn't need a torrent client doesn't mean it's not.
Call it a download host :p
 

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Hi,
I'm not coding and the only reason I have net 4... is because one program requires it otherwise I'd get rid of Net.
For better or for worse, I think you'll find as we move forward that more and more software will require .NET. MS is really pushing C# for apps, and of course that means .NET needing to be loaded onto our machines, much like the C++ redistributables that are provided with some software.
 

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Yep no argument there Mellon :)
Doesn't mean a new version should be used early on otherwise it would be Important update and not a optional one.
 

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Good point. I have to work on the bleeding edge, so I really have no choice in the matter. I think 4.5.2 was the last .NET version flagged as important as far as updates go, though as I mentioned, I really have had zero issues with the latest release. Maybe I just haven't hit a bug yet. :)
 

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Hi,
Probably a coincidence getting rid of it shook up the update system enough it actually started working again normally :)
My motto is what ever works without manually checking for updates :D
 

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