Solved Never EVER discard anything!

yankleber

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This thread is not to ask for help, but just to tell something that happened to me today and to alert your guys that EVERYTHING is possible!

Before my lunch a client called me complaining that his almost 10 years old machine was slow. She said:

— The computer is super slow SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU TOUCHED IT! Now it takes 2 minutes to load Windows and before it took like 2-3 seconds.

I swear God she said that.

:shock:

Since I know well this client and know that she rarely express herself correctly I was to her place to see what was really going on. Then, when there, I got what she meant. Actually the computer was taking 2 minutes to START loading Windows: it was stuck forever in the BIOS splash screen. Then first I tried to explain that it hasn't nothing to do with what I did the last time (I installed SP1 in her Windows), but go try to explain the difference between OS and BIOS to someone... Oh well!!!

So now begins the real story...

Since her computer has password in BIOS and she doesn't know it (and since I didn't want to reset her BIOS) I couldn't get into. Also it didn't seem to be a BIOS problem anyway, so I just removed the case hood and started to look around. Thinking of a bad contact due to the dirt conditions inside I started to remove and re-plug stuff but the problem just persisted. I stayed on this "self tail pursuit" for almost two hours and at the end I was convinced that it could be a PS problem. Because I am not fixing hardware currently I explained to her what I thought was going on and asked her to bring computer to a repair shop.

When I was already picking my stuff to go away, I noticed that her HP multi-functional was blinking the power button like crazy and in the tiny display there was a message telling that cartridges were bad. Then I looked at the USB cable connected to the computer but immediately I thought "It CANNOT have any relationship". But just for fun, I disconnected the printer USB cable and poked the computer power button. Guess what. Two seconds in the BIOS screen and Windows started to load. Then I repeat the test a couple times, and everything was normal. Then I plugged again the printer cable and... BIOS screen stuck again!

:confused:

Today this old dog learned a new trick: never EVER discard anything.

:o
 

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Ya but did you fix the problem ?

I don`t see how a printer has anyting to do with Windows booting up.

Was the boot order in the Bios set correctly ?
 

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Skylake Special #666
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Windows 10 Pro x64
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Intel Core i7 6700K
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Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
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GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
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Ya but did you fix the problem ?
Yup, I disconnected the USB cable from the printer (it wasn't being used anyway) and the problem has gone.

I don`t see how a printer has anyting to do with Windows booting up.
Neither do I till today.

Was the boot order in the Bios set correctly ?
If you are thinking the same as I did, yes, there is a big chance that the BIOS be set to boot from USB as primary option and that the computer was trying to boot from printer. Weird but possible. Unfortunately I couldn't check it because there was a pwd in the BIOS, the owner didn't know the pwd and I didn't want to reset her CMOS (actually she didn't authorized me to).

;)
 

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Custom
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel i5-3330
Motherboard
GigaByte B75M-D3H
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard
Sound Card
Behringer UCA222
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 22.5"
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1920x1080
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SSD Kingston 120GB
HDD Samsung 320GB
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1M
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ZoneAlarm FW + AV Free
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As a some printers has SD card readers, I would say that USB boot is as the fist boot option. As it doesn't find what to boot it keep trying.
 

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    custom build
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    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
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    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
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    IG - Intel 530
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    Samsung 226BW
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    1680x1050
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    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
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    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    500Mb/s
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    Firefox 64
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    TinyWall firewall
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    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
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    Windows 7 Pro
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    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
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    Asus Q550LF
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    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    Firefox
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It may be although it's weird to me. All computers I saw till the date just spit a message saying tha boot wasn't found when it happens instead to 'keep trying'. It doesn't really make sense to me. Also after some time stuck, the Windows is eventually loaded. Sometimes it takes several minutes to happen other times a few seconds...
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel i5-3330
Motherboard
GigaByte B75M-D3H
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard
Sound Card
Behringer UCA222
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 22.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
SSD Kingston 120GB
HDD Samsung 320GB
Internet Speed
1M
Antivirus
ZoneAlarm FW + AV Free
Browser
Chrome
The same thing will happen if you have a PC set to boot from the network, it will keep trying and trying :(
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
The same thing will happen if you have a PC set to boot from the network, it will keep trying and trying :(
I didn't know that. This old dog just learned another new trick!

:eek:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64bit
CPU
Intel i5-3330
Motherboard
GigaByte B75M-D3H
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Onboard
Sound Card
Behringer UCA222
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 22.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
SSD Kingston 120GB
HDD Samsung 320GB
Internet Speed
1M
Antivirus
ZoneAlarm FW + AV Free
Browser
Chrome
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