new build, keeps crashing

Mattt9

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ok, before i begin, i am a computer builder and have built many computers over the past several years. xp, vista, and 7.

i recently built a computer for my brother and everything as been a disaster. a lot of it is him not knowing much about computers, but also because i am over there every other day trying to get the thing to run stable. here's a list of problems i have had.

1.i had to install windows 7 with a ps2 mouse because it simply wouldnt install with a usb mouse.

2. no programs would install from dvd drive, (had to get another dvd drive)

3. memory and driver related crashes.

4. faulty keyboard - (brand new razor keyboard)

5. windows explorer errors and crashes.

so far, i think i have fixed the majority of the issues. the memory timings and frequency had to be changed in bios in order to pass memtest and other memory diganotics tools. the mobo had it running at different timings then what they should have been. also, the mobo wouldnt run the ram at 1333, and i had to run it at 1066.

explorer keeps freezing from time to time and i dont know how to fix this. i run windows 7 and dont have any issues on my pc.

all drivers have been updated, sound, chipset, video, etc... (havnt flashed bios yet and might at somepoint if i need too)

i researched the razor keyboard in question and found that many people had problems with it freezing up, crashing games, or even the OS. hopefully the newer logitech keyboard will fix that.

i dont know why i ran into all these issues, i guess it was finnally time for something to go wrong with one of my builds. lol

i guess where i'm at now, is does anyone think i should just try a reformat now that the memory seems to be straitened out ?

i did run scf/ scannow and no errors were detected. same with the check disk utility.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
windows 7 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom 2, 955 BE
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4 gigs - g-skill
Graphics Card(s)
BFG 9800 GTX + with 1 gig
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
hp 25 inch widescreen , 3ms
Hard Drives
seagate 250 gig SATA
seagate 80 gig SATA
PSU
BFG 550 watt modular
Case
lan cool, by lian li
Cooling
case fans and corsair h50 water cooling for cpu
ok, before i begin, i am a computer builder and have built many computers over the past several years. xp, vista, and 7.

i recently built a computer for my brother and everything as been a disaster. a lot of it is him not knowing much about computers, but also because i am over there every other day trying to get the thing to run stable. here's a list of problems i have had.

1.i had to install windows 7 with a ps2 mouse because it simply wouldnt install with a usb mouse.

2. no programs would install from dvd drive, (had to get another dvd drive)

3. memory and driver related crashes.

4. faulty keyboard - (brand new razor keyboard)

5. windows explorer errors and crashes.

so far, i think i have fixed the majority of the issues. the memory timings and frequency had to be changed in bios in order to pass memtest and other memory diganotics tools. the mobo had it running at different timings then what they should have been. also, the mobo wouldnt run the ram at 1333, and i had to run it at 1066.

explorer keeps freezing from time to time and i dont know how to fix this. i run windows 7 and dont have any issues on my pc.

all drivers have been updated, sound, chipset, video, etc... (havnt flashed bios yet and might at somepoint if i need too)

i researched the razor keyboard in question and found that many people had problems with it freezing up, crashing games, or even the OS. hopefully the newer logitech keyboard will fix that.

i dont know why i ran into all these issues, i guess it was finnally time for something to go wrong with one of my builds. lol

i guess where i'm at now, is does anyone think i should just try a reformat now that the memory seems to be straitened out ?

i did run scf/ scannow and no errors were detected. same with the check disk utility.


Hi matt

a couple of ideas.
What PSU is installed?
it might be a heat issue.
definitely hardware. I dont think re-installing would help

Ken J+
 

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HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx
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Win 8 Release candidate 8400
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[email protected]
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4 gigs
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Nvidia 9600M
Sound Card
HD built-in
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17" Wxga
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1440x900
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none
Internet Speed
45Mb down 5Mb up
What Motherboard is it?
Its possible some of these problems are known issues, and a bios update could resolve it.
 

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Custom (Self Build)
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
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eVGA P67 SLI
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8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
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LG W2453V
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1920x1080
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Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
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Corsair 600T SE White
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eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
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LG BD/DVD
Also, shut down, take the memory out and "re-seat" it. I have seen cases where a piece of cardboard or plastic get caught in there. Blow out the slots with air. It's an idea.....
 

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Keeps changing - (Custom)
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
Memory
4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Onboard realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900)
Hard Drives
Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives
PSU
Corsair 750 HX Modular
Case
Lancool PC-K62
Cooling
Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case
Keyboard
Gigabyte USB keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000
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7 Mb down 1.5 up
Other Info
System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM.
IS you memory on the MB's QVL?
If not it could be a memory issue.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
SMN-Productions
OS
Windows 7 x86/x64, Server 2008r2, Web Server 2008
CPU
i7 v2 3930K Steping stone 2
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 21" and Samsung 20"
Hard Drives
Patriot Pyro 80GB
PSU
1000 Watt
Case
HAF-X
Cooling
4 Fans
Keyboard
Black Widow Ultimate
i have tried to re seat the memory. case is clean and has great cooling. it has 3, 140mm fans, and a 120 mm fan. i installed a OCZ 600 watt modular psu. the motherboard is a Gigabyte MA785GT-UDH3 revision 1.0

the only reason i switched the memory timings is because i read on newegg that someone had the same exact problems. by default the memory was supposed to be at 8 8 8 21 , and the motherboard forced it to 9 9 9 24 .

i'm hoping the keyboard was the culprit and so far so good.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
windows 7 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom 2, 955 BE
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4 gigs - g-skill
Graphics Card(s)
BFG 9800 GTX + with 1 gig
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
hp 25 inch widescreen , 3ms
Hard Drives
seagate 250 gig SATA
seagate 80 gig SATA
PSU
BFG 550 watt modular
Case
lan cool, by lian li
Cooling
case fans and corsair h50 water cooling for cpu
For clarification:

Are explorer crashes and keyboard your only current issues?

If so, I certainly wouldn't think a reinstall would help, but I might do it anyway if I did not have a lot of programs installed already. If you reinstall, install the chipset drivers immediately after Windows installation completes.

Do you have another PSU you could swap in temporarily?

Are you satisfied through googling that the Gigabyte mobo has no particular correlation to explorer crashes?
 

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PC/Desktop
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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
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Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
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Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
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Pale Moon
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All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
i havnt seen any explorer crashes since the new keyboard. and i myself own a gigabyte board with a similar chipset so i hope its not the issue. i think the PSU is fine and i doubt it would cause IE8 to do what its doing. i guess i'll keep monitoring it over the next serveral days and see what the outcome is. i would hate to reformat , but will if all else fails. thanks for all the feedback and suggestions !:D
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
windows 7 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom 2, 955 BE
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4 gigs - g-skill
Graphics Card(s)
BFG 9800 GTX + with 1 gig
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
hp 25 inch widescreen , 3ms
Hard Drives
seagate 250 gig SATA
seagate 80 gig SATA
PSU
BFG 550 watt modular
Case
lan cool, by lian li
Cooling
case fans and corsair h50 water cooling for cpu

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
SMN-Productions
OS
Windows 7 x86/x64, Server 2008r2, Web Server 2008
CPU
i7 v2 3930K Steping stone 2
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 21" and Samsung 20"
Hard Drives
Patriot Pyro 80GB
PSU
1000 Watt
Case
HAF-X
Cooling
4 Fans
Keyboard
Black Widow Ultimate
i have tried to re seat the memory. case is clean and has great cooling. it has 3, 140mm fans, and a 120 mm fan. i installed a OCZ 600 watt modular psu. the motherboard is a Gigabyte MA785GT-UDH3 revision 1.0

the only reason i switched the memory timings is because i read on newegg that someone had the same exact problems. by default the memory was supposed to be at 8 8 8 21 , and the motherboard forced it to 9 9 9 24 .

i'm hoping the keyboard was the culprit and so far so good.

How about memory voltage? Is that set to the voltage on the sticker on the memory?

That's another idea. Also, memory multiplier is something to check.

Good luck
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Keeps changing - (Custom)
OS
Windows 7 Professional x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P
Memory
4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr
Sound Card
Onboard realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900)
Hard Drives
Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives
PSU
Corsair 750 HX Modular
Case
Lancool PC-K62
Cooling
Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case
Keyboard
Gigabyte USB keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000
Internet Speed
7 Mb down 1.5 up
Other Info
System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM.
voltage is fine, its at 1.5 which is recommended.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
windows 7 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom 2, 955 BE
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4 gigs - g-skill
Graphics Card(s)
BFG 9800 GTX + with 1 gig
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
hp 25 inch widescreen , 3ms
Hard Drives
seagate 250 gig SATA
seagate 80 gig SATA
PSU
BFG 550 watt modular
Case
lan cool, by lian li
Cooling
case fans and corsair h50 water cooling for cpu
Check out the link I sent you.
It will tell you whats crashing and why.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
SMN-Productions
OS
Windows 7 x86/x64, Server 2008r2, Web Server 2008
CPU
i7 v2 3930K Steping stone 2
Motherboard
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD HD 5770
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer 21" and Samsung 20"
Hard Drives
Patriot Pyro 80GB
PSU
1000 Watt
Case
HAF-X
Cooling
4 Fans
Keyboard
Black Widow Ultimate
yeah, next time i go over my brothers house, i'll install that program. thanks !
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
windows 7 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom 2, 955 BE
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4 gigs - g-skill
Graphics Card(s)
BFG 9800 GTX + with 1 gig
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
hp 25 inch widescreen , 3ms
Hard Drives
seagate 250 gig SATA
seagate 80 gig SATA
PSU
BFG 550 watt modular
Case
lan cool, by lian li
Cooling
case fans and corsair h50 water cooling for cpu
If it's a new build and you have all these issues with a stock installation - you've either got a bunch of different problems (less likely) or a single problem (more likely).

Where do all the problems (that you're having) meet? IMO it's the motherboard. I'd suggest RMA'ing the motherboard and see what happens.
 

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Home built (x64), Lenovo x61s Tablet, Samsung Netbook
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Win7 x64 + x86
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Intel i7 920, other Intel chips, and the Atom in the netbook
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Asus P6T Deluxe
Memory
12 gB; 4 gB Lenovo; 1 gB Samsung netbook
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ATI 4870
Sound Card
Yes, I have one of these
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32" Sharp Aquos TV
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800x600 - I have vision issues
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4 - 150 gB Velociraptors in RAID 5
Promise controller
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1000 watt (can't recall the brand)
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Antec 300
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Big honking cooler that was rated highly at Toms Hardware
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Microsoft Natural
Mouse
Logitech Trackman
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Cable
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GeekSquad UPS
CyberPower UPS
DLink DNS-323 NAS (2 tB)
Netgear wireless router as an access point
Netgear wired router FSV-318
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1 netbook (Win7)
4 laptop computers (XP, 2-Vista, Win7)
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