New Card Advice - One or two?

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Hi

I think my old graphics card has died and so I'm looking to replace it with another NVidia card.

My question is; should i get 1x 295 or 2x 275's and SLi them together? I have only ever had one card before and so don't really know the benefits of having 2:o

(I play games on this PC mainly)

UKMedia
 

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Hi, A lot of people seem to be having problems, with having two cards on their machines, with nVidia. I have two cards on my machine that are ATI cards, and I have no problems with them in Crossfire.
 

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Don't know why JFar is having problems, but I have 2 Nvidia 280 GTX cards in my machine, both work Flawlessly and had them on Vista, and now Win7.

2 cards can increase performance anywhere from 0 - 200% - it depends on the game. Almost all modern games support SLI, and NVidia adds new profiles to the driver all the time to increase performance for 2 cards with games. General performance increase is 40-90% over 1 card from what i've seen. NVidia will give you similar numbers.

My advice:
If you play extremely graphic intensive games (Crysis, etc.), 2 cards will benefit you immensly - if you play general things like Chess built into Win7, etc., it will not.

I suggest you post your system specs and the games you play.
 

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Benfits:

On games that support them, the performance difference is awesome. Two 275 SLI will be faster than one 295. However on games that have little to no multi card support, the performance gain is largely, if not, neglible. In rare cases two cards can actually hurt performance.

Negatives:

Graphial glitches. Games and drivers aren't perfect. Neither is the support. The majoritty of the time they are just little nusiances, at worse extremely annoying.

Motherborad bandwidth:

Is your board a 35/45/ or 38/48 ? A single 295 will run at x16 while two 275's may run at x8/x8. However it's debatable if there is any noticeable difference.

Your PSU:

Check your PSU can handle either a singe 295 or two 275's to begin with.
 

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Don't know why JFar is having problems, but I have 2 Nvidia 280 GTX cards in my machine, both work Flawlessly and had them on Vista, and now Win7.

2 cards can increase performance anywhere from 0 - 200% - it depends on the game. Almost all modern games support SLI, and NVidia adds new profiles to the driver all the time to increase performance for 2 cards with games. General performance increase is 40-90% over 1 card from what i've seen. NVidia will give you similar numbers.

My advice:
If you play extremely graphic intensive games (Crysis, etc.), 2 cards will benefit you immensly - if you play general things like Chess built into Win7, etc., it will not.

I suggest you post your system specs and the games you play.


I mainly play BattleField 2142 and have populated my system specs.
 

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On-Board and Soundblaster Recon 3 D headset
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Benfits:

On games that support them, the performance difference is awesome. Two 275 SLI will be faster than one 295. However on games that have little to no multi card support, the performance gain is largely, if not, neglible. In rare cases two cards can actually hurt performance.

Negatives:

Graphial glitches. Games and drivers aren't perfect. Neither is the support. The majoritty of the time they are just little nusiances, at worse extremely annoying.

Motherborad bandwidth:

Is your board a 35/45/ or 38/48 ? A single 295 will run at x16 while two 275's may run at x8/x8. However it's debatable if there is any noticeable difference.

Your PSU:

Check your PSU can handle either a singe 295 or two 275's to begin with.


I have an 1100 watt PSU, so either option should be okay??

How can I tell the motherboard bandwidth for a ASUS Striker II Extreme? Are there variations?
 

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MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II/OC and NVIDIA GTX 970
Sound Card
On-Board and Soundblaster Recon 3 D headset
Monitor(s) Displays
x2 Flat screen 21" LG displays + x1 LG W2363D (3D)
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5 internal Hard Drives:
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Dark Power Pro 10 1200W
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Teaming 2 GB network connection to Wired 1GB switch.
Connected to 37TB (Raid 5) of network storage on a wired 1GB lan.
(Mixture of internal hard drives, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB & 16TB Terastations)
Don't know why JFar is having problems, but I have 2 Nvidia 280 GTX cards in my machine, both work Flawlessly and had them on Vista, and now Win7.

2 cards can increase performance anywhere from 0 - 200% - it depends on the game. Almost all modern games support SLI, and NVidia adds new profiles to the driver all the time to increase performance for 2 cards with games. General performance increase is 40-90% over 1 card from what i've seen. NVidia will give you similar numbers.

My advice:
If you play extremely graphic intensive games (Crysis, etc.), 2 cards will benefit you immensly - if you play general things like Chess built into Win7, etc., it will not.

I suggest you post your system specs and the games you play.


Who is having problems?
 

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Who is having problems?

There seems to be a lot of people having SLI issues with Win7. I know thefabe is having issues as he seems to post in every SLI post there is.

Perhaps chrisf8657 can help him with his SLI issues.

I as well would be interested as I am about to go SLI with two 9800GT's
 

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Okay, thanks for all the comments. I've just ordered 2x BFG GTX 285's with 2048Mb - just haven't got around to telling my wife yet;) I'll let you know how things go with the SLi

Regards
UKMedia
 

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MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II/OC and NVIDIA GTX 970
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On-Board and Soundblaster Recon 3 D headset
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x2 Flat screen 21" LG displays + x1 LG W2363D (3D)
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5 internal Hard Drives:
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Dark Power Pro 10 1200W
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(Mixture of internal hard drives, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB & 16TB Terastations)
Okay, thanks for all the comments. I've just ordered 2x BFG GTX 285's with 2048Mb - just haven't got around to telling my wife yet;) I'll let you know how things go with the SLi

Regards
UKMedia


If your wife is like mine, you should tell us how things go with the wife, that would be pure entertainment. ;)
 

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Okay, thanks for all the comments. I've just ordered 2x BFG GTX 285's with 2048Mb - just haven't got around to telling my wife yet;) I'll let you know how things go with the SLi

Regards
UKMedia

Good lord... 2 of those should do you justice. You know they run warmish right? Rivatuner to the rescue. Just set the minimum fan speed from 40 to 60% while gaming. I've found it to work wonders. It dropped my temps by about 20*C I hope that beast of a case you have breathes well. :D
 

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Well, the cards are installed and running in SLI without any problems. 7 installed the drivers and then asked if I want to connect them and done:p:p

Even the wife is still talking to me...:party:, although she did think that this was an excuss to go and spend the same on her:huh::rolleyes:

Regards
UKMedia
 

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Graphics Card(s)
MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II/OC and NVIDIA GTX 970
Sound Card
On-Board and Soundblaster Recon 3 D headset
Monitor(s) Displays
x2 Flat screen 21" LG displays + x1 LG W2363D (3D)
Hard Drives
5 internal Hard Drives:
1 x WD 120GB Solid State
4 x WD 1TB (CAVIAR BLACK 1TB 32MB 7200 SATA) as Raid 5 array
PSU
Dark Power Pro 10 1200W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 932 Case - Black
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Thermaltake Contac21 cooler
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Cyborg
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Razor Mamba
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0.5 Mb - (Benefits of rural location!) & 24 MB Sat
Antivirus
MSE
Other Info
Teaming 2 GB network connection to Wired 1GB switch.
Connected to 37TB (Raid 5) of network storage on a wired 1GB lan.
(Mixture of internal hard drives, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB & 16TB Terastations)
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