New GPU

[Wishmaster]

OK, so Ive been putting off a new PC build and GPU upgrade for a while now.

But now, that taxes are out of the way and here in 2 more weeks Im definately ordering a upgrade.

Initially, I was going to build a Sandy Bridge P67, but after reading around a bit it seems LGA 2011 (Ivy Bridge?) will be out in the last quarter of the year. So, thinking I'll hold off for those and upgrade the GPU now

So, as far as the GPU, Ive decided to give team Green a go this time.
But looking for some advice.


Im looking at these 2 GTX 570s:
Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-AR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

So my main question is about the HD version of the card. It appears it vents inside the case, and Ive not been able to fine any info other than its the same performance.

Nothing about temps. (I really dont care about the full HDMI or Display Ports it offers)
Anyone know if this card actually runs any cooler?

And of course the othercan have a HAF bracket and backplate added to it to make it look much nicer.

The HD has also had a $30-50 rebate lately, which brings it down a bit cheaper, which I suppose is worth considering as well.

Not really sure which would be the better choice.



At any count, Im also curious about the 600 series. Last I read it said Q4 of 2011.
My thought was grab one of these 570s now, and use my step up program to get a 600 series ... or possibly a GTX580 if it gets delayed beyond the 90 days.

Thoughts?


((Oh, and BTW, I do understand I can save about $5-$10 going w/regualr edition and OC myself. But I usually do not OC my GPUS. So if theres a factory OC w/Warranty I like that option))

 

[Zepher]

If I had to choose one of them I would go HD since it is $50 cheaper.

About the Ivy Bridge, from what I have been reading is that the first Proc to come out for it will be an Extreme Edition for about $1100, so even if comes out in the fall, you will only be able to buy the expensive cpu.

 

[Shootist]

Both those card are basically the same. The only difference I can see/read about is one has a Display port. And from what i read that is a USB 3 port that you can daisy chain displays off it, IIRC.
Both vent out the back and draw air in from inside the case.

 

[Wishmaster]

If I had to choose one of them I would go HD since it is $50 cheaper.

About the Ivy Bridge, from what I have been reading is that the first Proc to come out for it will be an Extreme Edition for about $1100, so even if comes out in the fall, you will only be able to buy the expensive cpu.

I obviously missed that about Ivy Bridge...
I wouldnt put that much into a CPU, so It may end up being a SandyBridge after all.

And yea, that was my thought about the HD. The $50 rebate = a new game.
Still trying to track down some loaded temps on that card though,. Curious if the new design HS is beter, worse, or the same.


Thanks for advice so far

 

[stormy13]

This help?

EVGA Geforce GTX 570 SuperClocked DirectX 11 Video Card Review

Rage3D.com : EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Superclocked Video Card Review [ Power & Thermals ]

 

[Zepher]

Both those card are basically the same. The only difference I can see/read about is one has a Display port. And from what i read that is a USB 3 port that you can daisy chain displays off it, IIRC.
Both vent out the back and draw air in from inside the case.

It's not a usb3 port. It is a latchable video port that can carry a high res image as well as audio. Daisy chaining is possible in the spec but I am not aware of any screens that support that feature yet.

The main disadvantage that I have noticed with Display Port is that when you turn off the monitor, it disconnects from the computer like you unplugged it. If you have a multi monitor setup like I have and you have gadgets on certain screens and when I power off the screens, Windows will re-arrange the apps and gadgets since it thinks I unplugged the Display Port monitor.

 

[Wishmaster]

This help?

EVGA Geforce GTX 570 SuperClocked DirectX 11 Video Card Review

Rage3D.com : EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Superclocked Video Card Review [ Power & Thermals ]

Yes and No.
Good info, but I was looking for a good comparison on temps of the HD 570. These seem to be just the regular edition.

Appreciated none-the-less. A good read

 

[Colinjbro]

All I can tell you is I recently bought a SC 570 and I absolutely love it =)

 

[sygnus21]

Newegg.com - EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Just for reference the 6950 is basically designed like the card above fan wise and I don't have a heat/hot air blowing into the case issue. The fan exhausts it out the front.

About the Ivy Bridge, from what I have been reading is that the first Proc to come out for it will be an Extreme Edition for about $1100, so even if comes out in the fall, you will only be able to buy the expensive cpu.

I obviously missed that about Ivy Bridge...

I'd wait and see or get more info before passing final judgement here. I find it hard to believe that tere's only going to be one chip released at a 1000 bucks.

BTW is there a link on that article?

Anyway again, as far as fan design, you shouldnt have any issues there.

My two cents.

 

[Wishmaster]

You're right Sygnus. In fact, I really wamnted to build now, but decided to wait a few more moths for that exact reason. No major issues ATM, and its really not that long long of a wait.

Ive been looking into the Socket 2011 and Ivy Bridge a bit this morning and it would seem (at least my own understanding) was off a bit.

If what Im reading is correct, in Q4 of this year the new motherboards boards will release which are Socket LGA2011.
Also in Q4 of this year will be the new SandyBridge-E CPUs, which are LGA 2011 CPUs.

Ivy Bridge itself is also LGA 2011, but will not be out untill the first 1/2 of 2012.


Info is pretty scarce at this point so still looking around. I know this thread was originally about a GPU, but if anyone has some links to articles relating to this, I would love to read them.

If the new Motherboards are out, and SB-E is just a faster version of the 2600-K using that socket, it may be worth the wait.


As far as the GPU goes, the one you are refering too Sygnus was indeed my first choice.
With the optional backplate and HAF bracket, it looks quite nice and from what I have read will run just slightly cooler with it.

The only downside to that card ATM, is no rebate. Although thats not really a game breaker for me, it does end up making it cost a bit more.

It is still my main canadite ATM.

Then again, if I intend on using my Step Up program to move to a 600 series if they are out ... or to a GTX 580 in 3 months .. none of this matters.
Also, the fact theres no rebate makes the Step up costs cheaper at that point, since you pay the price difference of what you paid- the rebate you recieved if any.

Im still unable to find out if the HD card actually cools any better or not. Or if equal.
Hmmm ... decisions, decisions.

 

[johnwillyums]

There seems to be a debate about which is better and cooler here: EVGA 570 vs EVGA 570 HD - [H]ard|Forum

 

[ignatzatsonic]

Wishmaster:

Here is a leaked Intel road map. If I read it correctly, no Ivy Bridge this year. The Extreme processor near the end of this year will be Sandy Bridge.

 

[sygnus21]

I know this thread was originally about a GPU, but if anyone has some links to articles relating to this, I would love to read them.

An actual links you can check.......

- Intel's Ivy Bridge Chips to Get DirectX 11, PCIe 3.0 - PCWorld
- NewsFactor Network | Intel Will Add Both USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt To Ivy Bridge

Ivy Bridge processors will succeed the current Sandy Bridge family of Core processors, which are being used in recently announced laptops and desktops. Intel for the first time integrated the CPU and graphics processor inside a single chip with Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge has the underpinnings of Sandy Bridge, but chips will be made using the new 22-nanometer manufacturing process.

If you like me have an older i7-900 series processor with a 1366 chipset motherboard I say wait till the ivy chips are released before upgrading.

If you don't, and want to upgrade now, Sandy Bridge looks mighty fine right now.

My two cents.