New Hard Drive Question

bigmck

Very Senior Member
Guru
Gold Member
VIP
Local time
5:51 AM
Messages
4,745
Location
Houston, Texas
Right now I have Win 7 and all of my programs/files on one hard drive, one partition C: drive. If I got a new hard disk, could I just copy everything on it and be good to go or would I need to reinstall everything? == If I need to reinstall and I put Win 7 on one partition and my programs/files on the another, how would this benefit me? Thanks for your help.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
Memory
Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD6670
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE228
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM ==
PSU
Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
Case
NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
Cooling
Three 120 mm Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Mouse
Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
Internet Speed
AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
...could I just copy everything on it and be good to go...
In a manner of speaking, yes. But not "copy". You will need to image the new drive from the old one. Your drive mfgr may or may not provide a tool/app to do this easily.

I am not a big fan of partitions - I prefer multiple drives. The single advantage that I will cede to parting a sys drive- you can format the "C" part when reinstalling the OS without worrying about data files, provided you have properly structured your system.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
You can use Macrium Reflect Free Edition to do this. Basically what you'll do is create a system image of your first drive and then restore it to your second drive. It will copy everything except the properties of the drive. In other words you'll have to mark it as a Boot partition, etc.

I'd suggest that you simply install a fresh copy of Win7 on your second drive and then move everything from your old drive over manually then format it when you're done. This'll insure your installation is undamaged and you'll get a performance boost if you haven't been maintaining your Win7 installation.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009)
OS
W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
CPU
Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn]
Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)]
Memory
4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz]
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1]
Sound Card
SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled)
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled)
Screen Resolution
{Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200
Hard Drives
{Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]

{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR]
PSU
Magsafe
Case
Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52)
Cooling
2 x 6000 RPM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379]
Mouse
Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338]
Internet Speed
12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast]
Other Info
Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset
...could I just copy everything on it and be good to go...
In a manner of speaking, yes. But not "copy". You will need to image the new drive from the old one. Your drive mfgr may or may not provide a tool/app to do this easily.

I am not a big fan of partitions - I prefer multiple drives. The single advantage that I will cede to parting a sys drive- you can format the "C" part when reinstalling the OS without worrying about data files, provided you have properly structured your system.

One more question -- Let's say I buy a bigger drive and want to put all my progarms/files on it and put Win 7 on the smaller drive. The best approach would be just to install everything from scratch? Thanks,
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
Memory
Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD6670
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE228
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM ==
PSU
Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
Case
NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
Cooling
Three 120 mm Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Mouse
Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
Internet Speed
AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
That is a valid option.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
One more question -- Let's say I buy a bigger drive and want to put all my progarms/files on it and put Win 7 on the smaller drive...
I assume that you mean "program install" files.

I strongly do NOT recommend installing apps to a secondary drive.

App devs not addressed here.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
One more question -- Let's say I buy a bigger drive and want to put all my progarms/files on it and put Win 7 on the smaller drive...
I assume that you mean "program install" files.

I strongly do NOT recommend installing apps to a secondary drive.

App devs not addressed here.

I am referring to putting Win 7 on the smaller drive and everything else on the bigger drive. Are you saying this is not a good way to go?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
Memory
Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD6670
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE228
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM ==
PSU
Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
Case
NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
Cooling
Three 120 mm Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Mouse
Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
Internet Speed
AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
A fresh install of Win7 on the smaller drive with all your programs/apps would be ideal IMO.

Then, move your Documents,Videos,Pictures,Music User folders to the second drive.

I would also make a Folder "GAMES" on a secondary and install all games to there as well.

I would also advise either a 3rd HD for Backups, OR a hidden partition on the DATA drive (or one without a drive letter) that your Imaging Program can use.

I would make 1 image as soon as you install and activate Windows for safe keeping. Youll even be able to burn that Image to disc in the event you want to start fresh in the future, and Win7 will already be activated. And then periodic Imagages thereafter once you install most of your Apps etc.

There are several good imaging programs. Acronis, which offers many more futures but you'll need to purchase is excellent. Theres also a few really good free alternatives as well. Paragon, and as mentioned, Macrium Reflect.


This isn't saying Imaging your current drive over to the new HD isnt possible. Using Macrium to image and restore as mentioned is a viable option.
Acronis also has a 30day trial that will be able to clone the drive as well. If you purchased a WD drive, dont forget theres a free version of Acronis to clone the drive available to you from the official website. You just need to register you drive/serial number to gain access.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom (Self Build)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
Motherboard
eVGA P67 SLI
Memory
8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2453V
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
Cooling
eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
Other Info
LG BD/DVD
I am saying:

If Windows is installed on C
C:\Windows\

then

Install all programs on C
C:\Program Files

You invite problems otherwise. I have a lot of software installed and my total Program Files space is < 7 GB. There is little real advantage in placing apps on another drive.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
I am saying:

If Windows is installed on C
C:\Windows\

then

Install all programs on C
C:\Program Files

You invite problems otherwise. I have a lot of software installed and my total Program Files space is < 7 GB. There is little real advantage in placing apps on another drive.


I completely agree with this. With the exception of Games IMHO.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom (Self Build)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 2700k
Motherboard
eVGA P67 SLI
Memory
8GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks @1866
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX570 SC
Sound Card
XiFi Titanium HD
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2453V
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel 320 80GB -- Intel X25-V 40GB --WD Black 1TB x2 -- WD Blue 640GB
PSU
Seasonic x750
Case
Corsair 600T SE White
Cooling
eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler
Keyboard
Saitek Cyborg
Antivirus
Kaspersky
Browser
IE
Other Info
LG BD/DVD
There is nothing to be gained if you split the OS on 2 drives. I would leave everything on 1 drive - including the program files. When you install BIG programs, you can still decide to install those in a different folder during the installation phase - but I myself would not bother.
Your user data is another question. I would highly recommend to put your user data into a seperate partition. There are many advantages to it. See my little tutorial on the matter.
Another method is to define user folders on the other drive, move your data into this folder and include those into the respective library. That is the beauty of the library concept.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
I am saying:

If Windows is installed on C
C:\Windows\

then

Install all programs on C
C:\Program Files

You invite problems otherwise. I have a lot of software installed and my total Program Files space is < 7 GB. There is little real advantage in placing apps on another drive.


I completely agree with this. With the exception of Games IMHO.

I agree with Wishmaster on this. And I'm curious, what problems would one be inviting?

Example: I run an SSD and I do game. One game in particular is Microsoft Flight Simulator X - 15GB! On a 30-32GB SSD, that be the only game I could install on that drive--if I still had space left from other program installs. Any application, not just my games, but any application that weighs in more than 1GB in file size gets installed on a secondary drive: C:\Program Files (x86)\DATA\... (where "DATA" was the empty folder that the drive got mounted to) -- and this serves me well with no problems.

Now, the OP has not stated that he is running an SSD, but again, my question is, what problems does one invite doing such?

EDIT: Just want to add, I'm only asking... My question is not intended to be confrontational.
 
Last edited:

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Rig 1
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition @ 3.4GHz (AM2+)
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-UD4P (AM2+)
Memory
Corsair CM2X4096-8500C5 (4 X 2GB)
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5770 / Diamond Radeon HD 5770 CrossFireX
Sound Card
Asus Xonar DS (PCI)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 932bw+ (3)
Screen Resolution
4320x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 2 80 GB - Windows 7 System --
WD Caviar Black 1TB - Music, Movies, Vids, Pics --
WD Caviar Black 640GB - User Profiles & Games --
WD My Book 320GB external
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-750TX
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Cooling
Corsair Hydro Series H50
Keyboard
Logitech Desktop Wave
Mouse
Logitech LX8 Laser
Internet Speed
20 down / 2 up
Other Info
LG GGC-H20L Blu-Ray / HDDVD combo --
Hauppauge HVR-1250 --
Silverstone MFP-51 --
Logitech Webcam C600
And I'm curious, what problems would one be inviting?
Not all code is created equally. Any hard code/call to C:\Program Files would fail.

Your example would survive the weak code.

My initial caveat (App devs not addressed here) was proferred poorly. Let me try again...

Advanced users are free to continue utilizing advanced techniques; this discourse is targeted at a more common user type.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Asus P5B
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate
CPU
Intel Q9550
Motherboard
Asus P5B
Memory
4x2GB HyperX
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD3850 512
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Platinum
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 50 / Samsung 24
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 / 1920*1200
Hard Drives
Multiple RAID volumes
PSU
ThermalTake ToughPower
Case
Armor
Cooling
Liquid
Keyboard
$6 2.4 gHz desktop
Internet Speed
Just this side of fast enough.
Back
Top