New HDD, Cloning, Partitioning, Suggestions, etc.

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I have a desktop replacement notebook.
I have 2 HDDs, 500 GB each. I just got the second one (both HDDs are internal) and haven't formatted it as MBR or GUID.

I have 2 operating systems one my computer and I want 2 operating systems.

My first HDD has 4 partitions of :

C: Home Premium
D: Ultimate (main OS)
E: Movies
F: Files

Q1: Should I leave 2 OS in HDD1 or should I put 1 OS in each HDD?

Q2: If I want to clone D to a new partition in HDD2, which cloning method should I use? (Windows, external Software, ???)

Q3: In the new HDD, should I put partitions like the first HDD (4 equal ones) or should I put a larger partition for the OS in HDD2?

Q4: When I clone D to a new partition in HDD2, what kind of booting problems I can have? How can I solve them?

Q5: After I clone D to a new partition in HDD2, and boot from it, how can I uninstall the OS in D? (just format the partition or another way?)?

Q6: Is 115GB enough for a main OS partition? (In my OS partition, I don't have anything but the program files. All my files, videos, movies, downloads, images, etc. are in another partition-s-)

Q7: What are the important things should I keep in mind when I am cloning an OS partition to a new disk?

Any suggestions welcome!

Thank you!
 

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1) The partitioning theme on Disk #1 could be changed to allow more room to expand the OS primaries and store files on the second drive. That would be about 232gb for each edition of 7 or you could simply elect the dual boot across two drives method employed here often while having more then two HDs present however.

2)Which bramd of hard drives do you have installed? If WD they provide a WD free version of Acronis that sees the option for cloning drives as well as individual partiions. The actual term is "copying partiions" which can be done while booted live with a GParted live for cd disk but cloning is far slower then simply copy and pasting folders one or two at a time over to a second drive!

3)For the second drive the partiioning layout will depend if you OS the drive or not. With an OS on each drive many opt to simply see a second storage/backup partition on each or a small OS partition leaving the rest for storage on a second HD.

4)Simply cloning(or copying) a storage partition won't effect the mbr and boot loader on the first drive. By cloning one of the OS primaries however you may run into the need for use of the startup repair tool to recover the boot sector on the second drive.

5)The best method for seeing a dual boot would be performing a clean install of the Ultimate edition onto a new first primaty by creating that first and electing a larger second for storage/backup. The Windows Easy Transfer tool would be used to restore the files and settings once all programs were installed fresh as well.

A simple nuke of the OS primary by a reformat or deletion will see the new installation removed. Here the partition is simply deleted or replaced when restoring a full system image that cleans a drive off entirely.

6) A good 100gb is typically plenty of space allowing for adding programs on later without being cramped and running into the dreaded "out of memory" type errors when the OS primary is almost full.

7)The cloned OS may not run as a clean install would! Any hidden problems currently present but not seen on the original installation would simply be repeated with the clone! With a clean install that can solve many potential problems since it is working with a fresh registry and lacks any major files in case of a bad install the first time around. Much easier to clean off as well since you are not loaded up with files to backup!
 

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Imayneed,

Are you planning on putting TWO hard drives into your notebook?

I can see no reason for having both Ultimate and Home Premium present.
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
I have the 32bit Vista HP edition present on a second drive presently. It's a matter of personal preference as far as which editions and OSs you will run on your own system.
 

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    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
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Imayneed,

Are you planning on putting TWO hard drives into your notebook?

I can see no reason for having both Ultimate and Home Premium present.

Yes, I have dual drive option in my notebook and I have already put the second hard drive in the notebook. (Not formatted to MBR yet, just installed).

I want 2 operating systems, because if one OS fails, I can use the other one.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bitIntel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53...6GB DDRIINVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M
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ASUS G72 Notebook
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8700 2.53 GHz
Memory
6GB DDRII
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M
Sound Card
EAX Advanced HD 4.0 + Logitech Wireless Headset G930
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3" LED-backlit LCD high-definition plus widescreen
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
2 x Seagate Momentus 500 GB 5400.6 SATA 3Gb/s
Cooling
Targus
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Trackball M570
Internet Speed
3 to 6 Mbps Download / .5 to 1 Mbps Upload
Other Info
Clear Modem with Wi-fi*
Comodo Internet Security Premium
Essentially all you need to do there is take a quick trip into the Disk Management to see the drive turned online and bring up the add new volume wizard or use the partitioning tools right on the 7 dvd when going to install. For repartitioning things a bit that's when you would want the 3rd party options available for resizing the first once you are ready to go on the second.

Note you may run into the invalid key problem when going to install the Ultimate on the new primary. This could come up since you already have the key in use with the first install. You would think it wouldn't being on the exact same system but could where you would have to call in. Other then that a fast fresh install should go right on the second drive without a fuss.
 

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    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Custom builds = 2
    OS
    W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64/W11 Pro Triple Boot - Main PC W7 Remote PC Micro ATX W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 2nd remote pc
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4-Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Hyper X Fury 8gb 2nd
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs X-Fi Xtreme Audio P - Realtek onooard 2nd case
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS VW199T-P 19" HP 2082a Main-HP 2082a 20" remote pc
    Screen Resolution
    Asus 1440x900 - HP 1600x900
    Hard Drives
    WD Black 1TB HD per OS W7, W10, and pending W11 presently on 500gb OS Drive - Pending Triple 1TB HDs for Spanned Storage/backup volume
    Single 2TB external USB enclosure, single 1TB System 7 Host/Boot drive, Pending 8TB external HD for system image b
    PSU
    Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second
    Case
    Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900A
    Keyboard
    AZIO L70 Backlit Letters Gaming - ONN Cordless/USB
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    MSI DS200 Programmable, Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi
    Antivirus
    GFI VIPRE Internet Security 2014 on W7 2016 beta on W10,
    Browser
    Cyberfox, WaterFox 64bit FF variants, FireFox x64, Pale Moon
    Other Info
    Accomdata fan cooled usb 2.0 PIDE/Sata II, III external enclosure.
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  • At a glance

    W7 Pro x64/W11 ProAMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gbMSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    CUSTOM ASSEMBLY
    OS
    W7 Pro x64/W11 Pro
    CPU
    AMD Deneb 3.6ghz - 965
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-880GM-D2H remote pc
    Memory
    Kingston Hyper X Fury 8gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI HD Radeon 6450 DVI Output
    Sound Card
    Realtek onooard Creative or Other separate PENDING
    Monitor(s) Displays
    VIZIO 32" LCD TV Separate LCD Pending
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1080
    Hard Drives
    WD 500GB OS Host/Boot WD Green 1TB Storage/Backup
    PSU
    Corsair 600W - THERMALTAKE 600W spare case
    Case
    NZXT Vulcan mini tower
    Cooling
    Twin 120mm Top Fans - 240mm Side Cover
    Keyboard
    ONN Cordless/USB Logitech Cordless
    Mouse
    ONN USB/Cordless - Logitech Cordless
    Internet Speed
    DSL 5G
    Browser
    MS Edge, FireFox, WaterFox x64, FireFox Nightly
    Other Info
    OS Testing-Remote Access to Main TeamViewer
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