New installed Windows 7 - loooong boot time

Sven

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Hi.
I have installed Windows 7 from scratch, because of an error in the old installation, but this new installation is not running smooth either. I have the old MS-tool "Bootvis.exe", but it won't run in Windows 7 64bit, so I don't know how to monitor the boot sequence. I have the small program "Autoruns", and it shows me hundreds of things, but no timing is attached, so I can't find it this way. Well, here is the facts:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit installed on a Intel X-25M SSD
2 Samsung F1 1Tbyte HDDs
Core quard Q9550 @3,4 Ghz
4Gb ram Corsair PC6400
X-fi Fata1ty gamer extreme
Powerpoint HD5850 graphic
Gigabyte P35 DS4
Intel Gigabit CT netadapter (onboard net gives a low performance to/from my NAS)

When booting it stops for nearly 30 seconds after i shows the "new flag boot" window, I can hear it has little access to one (or both??) HDDs, and the HDD-LED is light up, but nothing happens. I have moved TEMP-files away from C:\ to a folder on one of the HDDs to avoid too much writing on my SSD, so maybe it is this it is doing on the HDD??

The old installation was on the exact same HW, and the Windows 7 64bit Ultimate DVD was the same. The old installation did not have this annoying delay. My first idea was that Kaspersky KIS2010 did this, but I have tried uninstalling it, and this does not change the delay.

Which tool can I use like the old "BootVis.exe" in Windows 7? Or is there another way to find this issue?

Everything in the PC is up to date with drivers.

So I'm stuck here. What can I try next?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS4 P35
Memory
2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 260GTX
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2493hm
Screen Resolution
1920*1200
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs
PSU
Zahlman 850HP
Case
Shg
Cooling
Evo 120
Keyboard
Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Mouse
Logitech G5 laser
Internet Speed
25/25 mbit
Other Info
1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner
Try bootlogging switch... It should log any weird or stuck driver upon load...

zzz2496
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Motherboard
Abit IN9-32X-MMAX
Memory
DDR2 Adata 4GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 1024 and Nvidia GeForce 8800GT 512
Sound Card
Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2407WFP and BenQ 2400v and Philips 150v3
Screen Resolution
3840x1200 and 1024x768
Hard Drives
2 WDC 1TB
1 WDC 1.5TB
1 WDC 640GB
1 WDC 320GB
1 Seagate 200GB
PSU
Corsair TX 850W
Case
Cooler Master HAF932
Cooling
Arctic Cooling Freezer Extreme and plenty of fans...
Keyboard
MicrosoftNaturalKeyboard 4000/Apple Alu keyboard/Dinovo mini
Mouse
Logitech G5/MarbleMouseTrackball/PerformanceMX/SpacePilotPRO
Internet Speed
1.5Mbps down/384Kbps up
Other Info
APC SURT 1000XL
Logitech Z-560
Wiimote
Mikrotik Router
Linksys (now Cisco) SD2008 8 port Gigabit switch
Linksys WRT54G (acting as AP)
Apple wireless Aluminium keyboard
Apple Magic Mouse
Xbox360 wired controller
Have you tried updating your drivers?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Advent
OS
Dual-boot: Windows 7 HP 32-bit SP1 & Windows XP Pro 32-bit SP2.
CPU
AMD Phenom X4 9550 2.8Ghz
Motherboard
FOXCONN A6VMX (Socket 940)
Memory
4.0GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
256MB On-board ATI Radeon X1200 Series
Sound Card
UnKnown
Monitor(s) Displays
19" TFT Mointor
Screen Resolution
1400 by 900
Hard Drives
500GB Western Digital WDC
Keyboard
HP Keyboard
Internet Speed
Dial-up via Mobile phone (Three)
Other Info
80GB External Hard-drive.

Also I have an old Windows XP Laptop for backup/occasional use etc.
Have you tried updating your drivers?

As I wrote in 1. post:
Everything in the PC is up to date with drivers.



Try bootlogging switch... It should log any weird or stuck driver upon load...

zzz2496

Where do I find the bootlogging switch? (my Windows 7 is in danish, so please give a full path, or I might have troubble finding it, TIA)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS4 P35
Memory
2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 260GTX
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2493hm
Screen Resolution
1920*1200
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs
PSU
Zahlman 850HP
Case
Shg
Cooling
Evo 120
Keyboard
Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Mouse
Logitech G5 laser
Internet Speed
25/25 mbit
Other Info
1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner
msconfig>Boot Tab>Tick Boot Log>Apply>OK

BOOTLOG.jpg
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
msconfig>Boot Tab>Tick Boot Log>Apply>OK

View attachment 77206

Thank you. StartLog is the Danish word :D.

I have now tried and it does not show any time for each, so I'm not sure which it is, but I do have some problems (or at least it is unknown to me)

Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys - I guess, this is not a problem, as I have ATI-driver installed for my HD 5850?

Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS - first it is loaded, and then it is not loaded for the next 4 lines? Could this be the issue?

Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys - again, first it is loaded, and then it is not loaded ??

All others loads without errors, but I don't know the names of most of them, and nor do I know how long it takes to load every single one of them.

Any ideas?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS4 P35
Memory
2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 260GTX
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2493hm
Screen Resolution
1920*1200
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs
PSU
Zahlman 850HP
Case
Shg
Cooling
Evo 120
Keyboard
Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Mouse
Logitech G5 laser
Internet Speed
25/25 mbit
Other Info
1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner
Have you changed out any of the drivers given by the Win7 installer, which are updated soon after install via Optional Windows Updates?

Use the installer and Windows Update drivers unless there is a performance reason not to. Win7 is not at all like Vista or XP driver-wise.

ndproxy is network, so check your LAN to make sure it has the latest driver. Uninstall any network connection manager bloatware provided by manufacturer and use Windows 7 manager.

Try reinstalling your ATI driver without the bloatware, just the driver.

Try uninstalling Kapersky using Revo Uninstaller in Moderate mode to get all registry and file leftovers. Then install free MS Security Essentials which has almost no system impact and becomes invisible after 30 second install.

Check also for repeat errors in Performance-Diagnostics log accessed by clicking through WEI score at Computer>Properties then choosing Advanced tools. Look for issues cued on that page and also Generate a System Health Report.
 
All drivers are the newest WHQL certified drivers, except for my Creative X-Fi as I can't find any WHQL certified driver for this.

Problem is not related to Kaspersky KIS, I think. In the old installation Kaspersky was there, and in this new installation the bootproblem is here regardless if KIS is installed or not.

The bootproblem is here even when starting in "safe mode", so it seems like it is not a 3.part software?

I don't use any network manager at all, not even the one that came with my Intel net-adapter.
In the system healthreport (created as you guided me :)) it says, that a "home grouping service stopped unwanted with an unknown error (my translation, as English is not my first language).
I think I can remember something about a boot/shutdown monitor in Windows 7 RC1, where Windows gave some info if a service or a program took too long time to start or shutdown, but I can't remember how to find it or how to use it. Or maybe it is not even there any more?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS4 P35
Memory
2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 260GTX
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2493hm
Screen Resolution
1920*1200
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs
PSU
Zahlman 850HP
Case
Shg
Cooling
Evo 120
Keyboard
Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Mouse
Logitech G5 laser
Internet Speed
25/25 mbit
Other Info
1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner
Do you have a Homegroup set up? Try leaving Homegroup at Control Panel>Homegroup, restart to check performance. Then set it up again, if needed.
 
I don't have a home group setup
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS4 P35
Memory
2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce 260GTX
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 2493hm
Screen Resolution
1920*1200
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs
PSU
Zahlman 850HP
Case
Shg
Cooling
Evo 120
Keyboard
Logitech G15 (blue backlight)
Mouse
Logitech G5 laser
Internet Speed
25/25 mbit
Other Info
1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner
Sven,
When you installed Win 7 RTM (not the RC), did you make a 100% clean install?

I find that you still have the problem when booting into Safe Mode very, very unusual.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
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