New laptop with Win 7 and some basic questions

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I am getting a new laptop for Christmas and will be using Win 7 64bit for the first time.

I've been using Win XP and since I was the only one using the laptop, I only had an admin account which I now know is a big no-no.

So.....

I will be creating an admin account and a user account with UAC for my personal laptop.

1. What will I use the admin for?
2. Which account do I install and run virus/malware scans?
3. which account do i make system restores?
4. which account do I uninstall the bloatware from?
5. What actually happens if my user account gets messed up with malware etc? Does that mean my admin is still clean and perfect?
6. Will the user account be able to see network places and share with my external HD?
7. What are some of the first things to update when i turn it on for the first time? Is there a proper way to install all of the windows updates? Do i do them all at one time or restart after each install?

Maybe just a little run down on the basics. I appreciate any do's and don'ts as this is a new computer and I want to do everything right at the start.


Thanks so much
 

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I am getting a new laptop for Christmas and will be using Win 7 64bit for the first time.

I've been using Win XP and since I was the only one using the laptop, I only had an admin account which I now know is a big no-no.

So.....

I will be creating an admin account and a user account with UAC for my personal laptop.

1. What will I use the admin for? Installing elevated level apps
2. Which account do I install and run virus/malware scans? any user
3. which account do i make system restores? any user
4. which account do I uninstall the bloatware from? any user
5. What actually happens if my user account gets messed up with malware etc? (use admin to clean or create a new user)
Does that mean my admin is still clean and perfect? (possibly but not probably)
6. Will the user account be able to see network places and share with my external HD? (YES)
7. What are some of the first things to update when i turn it on for the first time? Is there a proper way to install all of the windows updates? Do i do them all at one time or restart after each install? (your call some install all some one at a time. be sure to have a restore point)

Maybe just a little run down on the basics. I appreciate any do's and don'ts as this is a new computer and I want to do everything right at the start.


Thanks so much


It really is your call, and depends on how you use it and what you run. I personally run my only user account as Admin


Ken J
 

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Also, I have system mechanic 10 (or whatever the latest is) and want to know if I should put it on my new laptop, windows 7? I have been reading the forums and have seen a lot about registry cleaners and suggesting NOT to use them which is what I use system mechanic for a lot. I also use it for a system shield but it's not always been the best. I think I am having issues from using it now that I have read all of the wisdom that this forums has.

If I were to NOT use system mechanic, what would I need to keep my computer safe? I want something that runs in real time to prevent malware/spyware.

Also, when talking about the revo program, is that the free version or do you NEED the full version? I just do the basic minimal install/uninstall.

Give me the perfect combination ;-)
 
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What is the difference between system restore and system image for windows 7?
 

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4 GB DDR3 SDRAM 2 DIMM
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What is the difference between system restore and system image for windows 7?

System Restore will restore your computer to a previous state. In other words, if you're having seemingly unsolvable problems today, run system restore and find a restore point previous to today and restore it to that time and your problem will be gone.

As far as system image, I wouldn't bother with the built in Windows version. My suggestion, from lots of good results in the past, would be the free version of Macrium Reflect. www.macrium.com. It works fantastically.
 

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Also, I have system mechanic 10 (or whatever the latest is) and want to know if I should put it on my new laptop, windows 7? I have been reading the forums and have seen a lot about registry cleaners and suggesting NOT to use them which is what I use system mechanic for a lot. I also use it for a system shield but it's not always been the best. I think I am having issues from using it now that I have read all of the wisdom that this forums has.

If I were to NOT use system mechanic, what would I need to keep my computer safe? I want something that runs in real time to prevent malware/spyware.

Also, when talking about the revo program, is that the free version or do you NEED the full version? I just do the basic minimal install/uninstall.

Give me the perfect combination ;-)

"The perfect combination" is the one that Rich told you about in the other thread about registry, malware, etc. He's 100% correct.
 

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If I already back up everything in my documents/pictures/music, etc, do I have to have to do macrium? I have everything backed up on 2 external HDs
 

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Yes, I now have my security plan! ;-)
 

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If I already back up everything in my documents/pictures/music, etc, do I have to have to do macrium? I have everything backed up on 2 external HDs

No, you don't have to do Macrium. I had some early problems with Windows System Image when I first got Windows 7 14 months ago. I tried a few other backup programs and hit upon Macrium Reflect and enjoyed it's simplicity and ease of use. Enjoyed it so much I bought it.

Sounds like you're ahead of the game, though, if you already have stuff backed up and safe.
 

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Do I install everything/uninstall bloatware with my admin account or my user account? And which account do i make a system image of?
 

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You make a system image of the hard drive, not a specific account. The advantage of a full system image backup over System Restore is that System Restore only saves specific windows files and the registry. It does not save anything else and many times the files System Restore saves are not the cause of a problem. Restoring a system image will put you back to exactly where you were when the image was taken.
 

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Do I install everything/uninstall bloatware with my admin account or my user account? And which account do i make a system image of?

You can use either. I don't usually use Administrator Account for anything, but it's just my choice.
 

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Nvidia GEForce GTX 970 SSC
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There is nothing wrong or unusual at all about running as Administrator. This is the account set up for most owners when you set up your computer. You sound like you know what you are doing so you can likely trust yourself.

I would not run any tweaking or optimizing programs with Win7. It will always come back to bite you. Win7 is already optimized and as lean as an OS can be.

Since you asked about cleaning up bloatware, here are some tips based on hundreds of factory bloated computers I've helped clean up: http://www.sevenforums.com/installa...p-all-four-primary-partitions.html#post952573
 
PcDecrapifier does a reasonable job of getting rid of a lot of the bloatware. I've used it many times on XP systems. Says it work for XP, Vista and Win 7.
 

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