New Rig. Are the parts all compatable - effecient?

[robcardiv]

I'm building a new Game Rig Designed to get the highest constant framerate in 64 player battlefield 3 multiplayer. (Want to avoid those tiny stutters from capped CPUs).
Can anyone else confirm that this combination of hardware will work well together?
Or let me know if Im missing anything important?

Will this Power supply work well enough? and
Is this motherboard lacking anything very important? the motherboard wont gimp any of the hardware will it?
Can I get better 4gig stick of Game performance Ram for 23$ ? I like this brand name.

Feel free to suggest other pieces from NewEgg. But I've pushed the cash as far as I can, the prices have to stay the same or lower. I would love any suggestions if Ive mad any bad decisions.

Motherboard: 49$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128529

Power Supply: 49$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199

Cpu: 149$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103962

Video Card: (Dont have 10 extra bucks for the 6780. Im ok with the 6850-2fan)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Ram: 23$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220572

DVD: 15$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240

**** Surely this DVD drive will read my windows CD before installing drivers, so I can install windows7 on my hard drive right? lol ****

**I've read up extensively on CPUs. I understand that the intel chips have the highest single core power and that the AMD x4 - x6s out perform the fx6100 chips. but the fx6100 specifically excels on 64 player multiplayer, which is what I want to cap the most. Any of these chips will do well enough for most games otherwise.
Feel free to suggest other CPUS if you have researched specifically battlefield multiplayer performance. I wont be going with Dual core intel, I dont have enough to go with Quad intel.

Hard Drive: My old Gear that ill use
http://discountechnology.com/Seagate-ST3400832AS-SATA-Hard-Drive

Case: I Have a case at home.

 

[Infinite]

Aren't you missing a case and a hard drive?

 

[robcardiv]

Should have listed those. I have a Case and Hard Drive at my house already. Thanks lol.

 

[Legaia]

Should have listed those. I have a Case and Hard Drive at my house already. Thanks lol.

Like I said in the last thread. Bulldozer is not the way to go unles you are playing ONLY BF3. Still i would suggest another CPU due to the fact that that CPU will be nowhere near the roof so that the graphic card will limit the GPU anyway.

But your motherboard does support the bulldozer (AM3), Your graphic card will not be limited by the PCI-E slot. You will fit those RAMs on that motherboard. That PSU will be able to support all of your system.

 

[Layback Bear]

You say you want at top notch gaming computer. I will mention one thing and let others help guide you. Rosewill power supply would not be my choice.
Corsair or Seasonic around 650W +80 Gold.

 

[robcardiv]

Legaia, this motherboard says its am3+ ready.
It wont support the fx-6100?
Could you suggest one from newegg for 49$ that will?
I thought it would.
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layback bear, as I said in the post, I cant raise my prices at all, if you can find a corsair or seasonic PSU for 50 bucks, that will work. I would love to have the link. I would purchase it. thankyou.
I think this is the best ill get for 50$

 

[Legaia]

Legaia, this motherboard says its am3+ ready.
It wont support the fx-6100?
Could you suggest one from newegg for 49$ that will?
I thought it would.
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layback bear, as I said in the post, I cant raise my prices at all, if you can find a corsair or seasonic PSU for 50 bucks, that will work. I would love to have the link. I would purchase it. thankyou.
I think this is the best ill get for 50$

I said it does support it. And like Layback said. If you want high end you will have to pay the money. Simple as that, no matter how much you research the matter you will never find a perfect gaming comp for that price. If you go with a poor quality chassie you will loose cooling and there are tons of other stuffs that matters as well. And you have most likey recived the same answers in your last 9 threads about this as well.

Either you go for a budget or you go all out and pay the cash. You will never be able to run BF3 on ultra without paying some decent cash. DICE is recommending a 6950 for the graphic card and a 4 core CPU. Those 2 combined would go over your budget.

Don't come sayiong that bulldozer is a 8 core CPU becous it's not. It's a 4 core cpu with 4 modules. those modules reduces the power of the other 4 "real" cores as well.

You could go with low budget items and over clock them but then you will loose the warranty and if something breaks you are left without a computer also for this you will have to putt more money into the cooling chassie as well as PSU.

And like i said before reduce the price on the CPU and go with a beter GPU.

 

[robcardiv]

fx 6100 Frap'sing 1080p with high speed travel across the map and zero stutter even in the record.
NEOTALENT.BENCHMARK FX6100 vs. Battlefield 3 (Benchmark by Neocore) - YouTube

the 2120 intel chip recording the same thing (With a bit of stutter skips cause its choking on the dual core) Im sure the game runs fine without fraps.
but the 6100 pwns both at once at 1080p hd even. /shrug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMWIrnssBzw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OJdH1E_W4c
I could find other videos, there are plenty.

But these rigs using the same parts im listing, doing a great job.
Im not asking for 2500x resolution with ultra ultra 4xAA 16xAA.
Im just asking to make sure these pieces will work together.

ty for the confirm on the mobo. that was my biggest doubt.

 

[Legaia]

The graphic card makes that game not the CPU!

I'm running the game on 2 6950's no MS and Phenom II x6 at 3.4GHz and the game does still lock becous of my graphic cards. It's not the CPU that is required in that game!

On top of that how do you know he's not been payed to say that? If i posted a video playing BF with a singel core CPU at 1GHz saying i recoreded it in 1080p max graphics and god knows. Would you belive that as well. Also running the game in 30 FPS is not that impressive.

I've actually recorded a video my self as well. This one have actually been uploaded at 1080p which hes not have been. And you will see that the game is extremly graphic intense. The gameplay you can see where locked at 29.9 FPS.
Sneak Preview of Battlefield 3 Flight [1080p] - YouTube

On top of that you can not benchmark a game in online play since the gameplay does very from every game.

 

[robcardiv]

(Oh you said mobo does support, ty )

again. single player videos dont count.
any of these cards have no trouble at all on single player maps.
even the current crappy athlon 2 64bit 2.7ghz chip / 9800 nvidia card im running now runs that first map with great framerate. no joke. I was amazed at how well it performed on the first few maps.
Multiplayer starts to hit dual cores hard though. maxing each core with nothing to space anywhere.

Im talking specifically heavy fightfights with 25 players on screen in a 64 player map.
I dont care what the guy said in the video, im just looking at the butter smooth 1080p record he got with his 6100.
Its not the only 6100 video ive seen record with that stable of record.
ive seen 970+ amd chips do the same thing, and intel quad cores do the same stable record.

its just the dual core chips that start having a hard time with it.==

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Its true that the majority of BF3 is a GPU based dependancy.

up untill the point of 64 player maps. then its a different ballgame.
There are a few great charts out there that show the difference in heavy multiplayer useage.
I lost the links. i dug around for them. i lost em atm.
no big deal. im not asking for advice on the cpu or telling anyone they are wrong.
Im just happy enough with the 6100
i know its not the wisest choice, but it will run any of the games I have plenty well enough

 

[Legaia]

Rob, Please listen. THE CPU IS OVERKILLING THAT GPU!

You will recive beter preformance from a lower end CPU and a higher end GPU.


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You are asking to get the best experience playing Battlefield 3. And a Highend CPu and a budget class GPU will not give you that. And i've already given you an answer. But it does kind of feel like you are excluding a lot of this that might potentially give you a pain later on in case of additional costs or that you are unable to run the computer properly.

 

[robcardiv]

if you can find a youtube video of a 2100 - 2120 i3 chip recording 1080p hd video on a multiplayer map. let me know.
I saw one or two but it didnt have any combat around what-so-ever.

I would imagine the chips do fine, great even. But I have read also that they start to have problems with heavy multiplayer. which I believe since they are dual core.

 

[Legaia]

if you can find a youtube video of a 2100 - 2120 i3 chip recording 1080p hd video on a multiplayer map. let me know.
I saw one or two but it didnt have any combat around what-so-ever.

I would imagine the chips do fine, great even. But I have read also that they start to have problems with heavy multiplayer. which I believe since they are dual core.

Well if he did record the video in 1080p why did he not release the video in 1080p?

But yes the FX series does work fine with Battlefield 3 since it so heavy threaded in high resolution and graphic but at the moment you will struggle to stay at high with 40FPS becous of that GPU.

Graphic card tests

CPU tests

SweClockers tips
Aim for 60 FPS for the best gaming experience
Consider the amount of video memory in the selection of quality mode
High levels of anti-aliasing and texture filtering affect the frame rate significantly
Do not be afraid to experiment with different settings
A slower quad-core processors are liable to restrict the frame rate
Processors with two cores are not recommended
Two graphics processors is almost a requirement for "Ultra"

If you feel like trying to understand good translate feel free to use it on this website
http://www.sweclockers.com/artikel/14650-prestandaanalys-battlefield-3/1

 

[Solarstarshines]

This chip will out perform the 6100 Bulldozer chip just because it beat a few benches better then this one doesn't mean it performs better this one will have you running much pretier then what you want to buy

FRYS.com*|*AMD
http://www.frys.com/product/6522633?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG also this GPU will put you in some sort of area that gamers are in im running crossfire with mine

 

[robcardiv]

Ive seen half a dozen videos showing the 6850oc card doing 30-40-50 frames per second on multiplayer maps also.
Perhaps without 4xSSAO 16AA. I dont mind running the graphics on 80 percent ultra high.
Id rather have zero skipping during combat.. X_x.

 

[robcardiv]

If I had 20 extra bucks I would go with the intel quad core, or the 1090t that you list solarshine.
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2300 Sandy Bridge 2.8GHz (3.1GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I52300

unfortunately I cant gimp the PSU by 20 bucks, or the mobo, and a 6850 is already pushing it too low for the video card.
I had a 6870 picked last night, but that card is sold out now. the next one up is 20 bucks more also, but the feedback reviews scare me.

like I said, if you buys can show me a better rig with a video card thats not lower than 6850 X_x.

for 440 total. Ill go with it. (Except for dual core chips. I dont want dual core).
and intel wont lower their price on even a single Quad , below 180. so fkem.

 

[Solarstarshines]

well I can tell you If you already scouted out what you want to buy why can't you wait a week or two more and get the rest to make it what you really want

Rushing to put something together just because you don't have all the cash right then and there is no good better to take your time who knows you might get a super sweet deal if your patient

 

[robcardiv]

again , Legaia.
Ive seen that chart a few times also, and studied it.
You are correct, I will have to lower a few options away from ultra to mitigate the 30-40 frames per second issue.

tbh I call 30-40 frames per second very acceptable. I come from the days when 640-480 was eye-candy and 30fps was high end.

I dont mind lowering a few settings like Ambient shadows and 4xAA off, in order to get the frames back up to 50.
I play at 1600-1200 happily.

If I had 20 bucks more to blow on a video card, I would.
But I wont downgrade to a dual core i3 to do so. I just cant believe that going dual core again is wise.
especially in light of the fact that the last two games Ive wanted to play right. Wont. specifically because of Dual core. (Gta4 and 40 player combat Badcompany 2). Im sure the 2120 does those games fine. I just cant invest in dual core again.
Id rather have the high-ultra graphics than the dual core- ultra graphic (thats gona drop to 40 anyways.)

 

[robcardiv]

well I can tell you If you already scouted out what you want to buy why can't you wait a week or two more and get the rest to make it what you really want

Rushing to put something together just because you don't have all the cash right then and there is no good better to take your time who knows you might get a super sweet deal if your patient

HAha. I agree.
No wiser words.
I dont have that kinda patience though. Ive been waiting two years already.
this dual core - 9800 systems been bugging me forever.

Ive been waiting 12 days for this check to get here as it is X_x.

 

[Legaia]

again , Legaia.
Ive seen that chart a few times also, and studied it.
You are correct, I will have to lower a few options away from ultra to mitigate the 30-40 frames per second issue.

tbh I call 30-40 frames per second very acceptable. I come from the days when 640-480 was eye-candy and 30fps was high end.

I dont mind lowering a few settings like Ambient shadows and 4xAA off, in order to get the frames back up to 50.
I play at 1600-1200 happily.

If I had 20 bucks more to blow on a video card, I would.
But I wont downgrade to a dual core i3 to do so.
Id rather have the high-ultra graphics than the dual core- ultra graphic (thats gona drop to 40 anyways.)

Well what resolution will you be playing at?