Now 1 computer takes 20+ mins to even BEGIN to boot!

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After I installed a new PCI express card (a USB-3.1/C adapter, described here: dodocool PCI-Express Card with Dual Type-C Ports 15-Pin Connector SuperSpeed Gen II), my system started taking 20+ minutes to even begin starting to load Windows. I know that because I've always used a Boot Manager (BootIt BM), and this twenty-plus minutes passes before the Boot Manager is invoked.

That huge delay may be spent in POST, but I can see both the read and write lights of my SSD (system drive) flashing for most of that time. What it's doing before even attempting to load Windows is a complete mystery!

Naturally, I uninstalled the card and tried it again, expecting the timing to return to normal. It did not! :huh: What the heck is going on?? Any suggestions to help me find out?

The system in question is a home-built desktop based on an ASUS Z87-A mobo with 16 GB RAM and an Intel i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz. It is my main workhorse. It is running 64-bit Windows 7 Pro with all the updates.

Please help?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitIntel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core ...16GB G.SKILL TridentX 2666 (PC3 21300) RAMEVGA nVidia GTX-750
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home-built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Z97-A/USB 3.1 Gen 2
Memory
16GB G.SKILL TridentX 2666 (PC3 21300) RAM
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX-750
Sound Card
LogiLink USB 2.0 7.1 Channel Sound Box
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL U2713HM, ViewSonic 22, HDTV
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
System is on 2x RAID 0 Samsung 850 PRO 256GB SATA-III SSD

System has several other SATA III disks as well
PSU
Corsair RM750x
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Scout 2
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Apple Slim, Bluetooth slim
Mouse
Logitech Trackball Marble & Logitech Wireless Trackball
Internet Speed
100 Gbps
Antivirus
Avira AntiVirus Pro
Browser
Waterfox, Opera, Basilisk
Have a look in Device Manager & see if the card is showing there & if there are any yellow warnings showing. Double click on it & have a look if it is working properly & see if a drive update is available.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad...G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12...Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
Ranger4 said:
Have a look in Device Manager & see if the card is showing there & if there are any yellow warnings showing. Double click on it & have a look if it is working properly & see if a drive update is available.
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Thanks, Ranger4!

The last time I was in Windows, there were no indications of any problems. There were no IRQ or other resource conflicts. Although Windows didn't find a driver for the USB C card, I found one on my own that matched all the particulars and installed perfectly. Not only did the Device Manager show no problems, but the driver worked perfectly and I had no problems using the USB C device I connected.

But in the meantime before responding here, I tried so many exhaustive tests that I'm now certain that the mobo has gone bad. You see, I cleared the CMOS (and removed the battery before clearing it again since the other attempts didn't seem to work), and from then on I've been utterly unable to enter the BIOS settings! I even removed every single disk and every single card -- including the graphics card, after which I used the on-board graphics -- but it remains utterly impossible to get to the BIOS settings!

Oh, after clearing the CMOS the system forces you to the first BIOS page, and demands that you press F1 to get to the BIOS settings, but that never happens. All you see is a blank screen that never changes. And now, of course, the system won't even boot at all because the BIOS settings are now wrong!

It's a catch-22; the BIOS settings are so wrong I can't boot, but I can't get into the BIOS settings to fix them!

I'm done trying...
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Professional 64-bitIntel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core ...16GB G.SKILL TridentX 2666 (PC3 21300) RAMEVGA nVidia GTX-750
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home-built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS Z97-A/USB 3.1 Gen 2
Memory
16GB G.SKILL TridentX 2666 (PC3 21300) RAM
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX-750
Sound Card
LogiLink USB 2.0 7.1 Channel Sound Box
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL U2713HM, ViewSonic 22, HDTV
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
System is on 2x RAID 0 Samsung 850 PRO 256GB SATA-III SSD

System has several other SATA III disks as well
PSU
Corsair RM750x
Case
CoolerMaster Storm Scout 2
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Apple Slim, Bluetooth slim
Mouse
Logitech Trackball Marble & Logitech Wireless Trackball
Internet Speed
100 Gbps
Antivirus
Avira AntiVirus Pro
Browser
Waterfox, Opera, Basilisk

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad...G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12...Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
Just in passing, I ask if you might be experiencing I/O errors on your HDD spinner(s) drive(s). This can cause I/O error recovery attempts and unexpected delays trying to open the file system on partitions at boot time, as well as when trying to access the partitions.

Just a thought.

You might try running a "surface test" on each of the partition(s) on your HDD drive(s) using Partition Wizard Free, just to see what the condition of those drives is.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6...8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2)ATI HD7750 (1), (see TV cards); ATI R7 250 (2)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home-built, two systems (1) and (2)
OS
Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
CPU
i5-3350p 3.1Ghz/6MB-cache (1); E8400 3.0Ghz/6MB-cache (2)
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro (1); ASUS P5Q3 (2)
Memory
8GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (1); 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3 (2)
Graphics Card(s)
ATI HD7750 (1), (see TV cards); ATI R7 250 (2)
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892 HD Audio (1); Realtek ALC1200 HD Audio (2)
Monitor(s) Displays
Eizo HD2441W LCD, Eizo S2433W (1); Eizo 24" S2433W (2)
Screen Resolution
1920x1200, 1920x1200 (1); 1920x1200 (2)
Hard Drives
(1) 1TB SATA-II (7200RPM), 2x2TB SATA-III (7200RPM), 250GB SATA-III (10000RPM) for OS; 2x2TB external USB 3.0

(2) 320GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 750GB SATA-II (7200RPM), 150GB SATA-II (10000RPM) for OS; 2TB external USB 3.0
PSU
Nesteq ECS-6001 600W (1); Nesteq ECS-5001 500W (2)
Case
Acousti-Case 360 (1) and (2)
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 for CPU, 2x120mm case fans (1) and (2)
Keyboard
IBM PS/2 (1) and (2)
Mouse
Logitech MX Revolution wireless (1); Microsoft wired (2)
Internet Speed
100mbps down / 10mbps up
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials; Malwarebyte Anti-Malware Pro
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Ceton InfiniTV 4-tuner cablecard-enabled TV card as well as Hauppauge HVR-2250 OTA/ATSC 2-tuner TV card in (1), running under Win7 WMC
ATTENTION: You have a RAID 0 array. Detach the drives (take the SATA or power cables).
Try to reset BIOS. Take the battery out for 2 minutes.
Reconfigure BIOS and make sure SATA = RAID (you don't need to recreate the array)
Disable fast boot.
Save and exit.
Enter BIOS and check if SATA = RAID.
Shut down and reconnect the cables of the RAID disks.
 

My Computers My Computers

System One System Two

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 HP 64i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Proi7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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