Nvidia Driver Problem Affecting Gameplay

[crayonmuncher]

Basically when installing nividia drivers on my monitor i have to manually insert the edid data to get a clear and crisp display and I then have to set a custom resolution to 1366*768 rather than 1360*765, which is fine and I had to do this with my HD4670 too, minus edid bit.
Now because, i assume, i have put edid data into the install data for the driver windows wont show any res above 1360*765 unless manually added. Even when manually added games do not always pick this up and sometimes forces me to use the 1360*765 res. I cannot change this even by adding lines to the shortcut to force the res, for example in fallout new vegas it says my display does not support this res and left 4 dead automatically goes back to the lowest res it can.
Other games, like bad company 2 pick up the custom res and allow me to play on it with ease.
The problem with 1360*765 is that the left edge of my screen ends early and is a few pixels too short, the pixels after this, the few there are, are refracted when anyting moves on them.
How do i either sort out the 1360*765 res so it does not have this issue or add in the 1366*768 res so games pick it up, is there anything i can tweak in windows or in the drivers themselves, or would i need to write new EDID data and input that into the nv_disp.inf?
I have added the custom res using nvidia cp and powerstrip.
I had this problem setting customer res on my HD4670 but windows detected my screen can go to 1920*1080 and all games would allow me to set to res to 1366*768 in game or force it using a command.
Any help would be great.

I am running windows 7 64 bit btw

Running a GTX 260 btw

 

[SlasherIT]

Please fill in your system specs. What monitor are you using?

 

[crayonmuncher]

I have a hdtv as my monitor, poloriod flu2632. Connected via dvi to hdmi

Motherboard: ASUS M4N75TD
CPU: Athlon II X3 445 @ 3.1Ghz
Graphics: Evga GTX 260 core 216
RAM: PNY Optima DDR3 4GB 1333Mhz
HDD: 500 GB samsung
PSU: Antec Neo Power 650w

 

[SlasherIT]

What do you mean by connected via DVI to HDMI? Are you using an adapter? Bad resolution for a 26-inch display, that's a laptop resolution... Anyways, try the following. First, completely uninstall all NVIDIA drivers, ect. Then, download and install Driver Sweeper Phyxion.net - Driver Sweeper. Boot up Windows 7 in Safe Mode, launch Driver Sweeper, and use it to clean all NVIDIA - Graphics files that have been left over. Reboot to Windows 7 again. Your desktop will now be running in a crappy small resolution, 800 x 600. To get it back to max resolution, download and install the latest NVIDIA drivers again. It should detect everything and work. If this doesn't work, reply back.

Slasher

 

[crayonmuncher]

Yeah i should have said i have done that, tried drivers from 197 up from a fresh install of windows, This is the resolution my tv looks best, it can go up to 1080i but it doesnt look that good on it, it is slightly beeter on 1366*768 than at 720p, the instruction manual actually recommends it when connected to computer.
This problem is only a problem when playing dx9 games I have found, dx10 finds the 1366*768 res fine where as dx9 only goes up to 1360*765.
Yes i am conencted via an adapter, used two separate ones as a matter of fact.

 

[SlasherIT]

1366 x 768 actually is your max resolution, after doing some research on your monitor... I really doubt you can take it to 1080i.

Have you updated DirectX? Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - DirectX End-User Runtime

 

[crayonmuncher]

DX is updated, this TV can go up to 1080i, i used to use on my HD4670 when I needed more desktop space and I also use it for a time on ps3 before i missed the higher refresh rate on 720p.

it can handle 1080i, other words 1920*1080@ max of 30hz, 1366*768 is at 60hz, another reason why I prefer it.

I am pretty sure it is because I have to manually insert the edid data into the nividia driver before it installs and i think the edid data is slightly off, which it can be in some flat screens, I did not have to do this on my HD4670 hence why I had no problem.

Apparently this is a very common driver problem with nividia which they refuse to recognise, this is the guide i followed to get the colours and text correct:

Colors are washed out/fuzzy with nVidia driver - NVIDIA Forums - Page 2

Basically I think I am looking for some kind registry tweak to allow it to report the correct resolution so I dont have to manually add it in using ps or nvidia cp or i need to write my own EDID data and input it into the nv_disp file, and that could take a while for a problem that only causes issues in dx9 games and is only noticeable you look real close
This appears to be a relatively unique problem but I like challenges, most people either just wouldn't care or prob wont notice it during gameplay.

 

[SlasherIT]

Look, I'm really sorry, but I can't continue to help you. You seem to know more in tweaking the NVIDIA drivers than I do. I'm sorry but I can't help you any further. I will tell some friends to come assist you promptly.

Slasher

 

[crayonmuncher]

No need to be sorry mate, posted this in several forums and your the only one who responded, I appreciate your efforts.

 

[SlasherIT]

Thanks . Can I ask you though what is an EDID? Also, when browsing the web and doing non-gaming stuff, can you use the 1366 x 768 resolution?

 

[crayonmuncher]

EDID is data that the display gives to a device that describes what it is capable of, for example what resoltions, what refresh rate and so on.
EDID stands for: Extended display identification data

Extended display identification data - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Way more info there.

The 1366*768 res works fine in windows and in dx10 games, only when playing DX9 games will it only go up to 1360*765.

 

[Solarstarshines]

@ CRAYON MUNCHER

I really don't see that monitor doing anymore then you are saying plus the aspect ratio is 16:9 should be 16:10

Plus the reviews are not to good about this product 'If you are really shooting for that resolution that monitor won't do it

I doubt it is your card the TV just wont accept the commands and it may just be a no good purchase even though it looks like a deal it could cause more headaches then keeping a few extra dollars in your pocket

I would look for a quality tv that has a 16:10 aspect ratio standard and go from there even though 16:9 is standard the quality will be much better at 16:10 plus

Not to sure about how Nvidia Hdmi works compared to ATI but if you have one monitor you only need one connection if you have two connections wired to the same Monitor that might be the conflict

Use one only if you only have one monitor that might be the issue you are confusing the grfx card

Ps The monitor shouldn't need drivers windows gives a generic driver
Also i would try a different monitor to see if it is happening as well

One more thing you didn't mention what version Nvidia drivers you are useing that would be a big help

 

[crayonmuncher]

First 1366*768 is 16:9, as is the TV as are most HDTVs if not all.

Second the monitor has and will do that resolotion and higher and has done for many years on multiple gpus, I can post a screen shot if you do not believe me, This TV has worked flawlessly.
I do not have two connections to the monitor, I only have one and even if I did I would swtich between the outputs on my tv to show the extended desktop. This would not cause a conflict. I only have two dvi ports and s video, no HDMI.
With my ati HD4670 i could have the DVI, HDMI and VGA plugged into the TV and windows would detect 3 displays, meaning if i switch the source on the TV i could view three separate desktops, so I fail to see how it could be issue.
Dont know what reviews your are reading but i bought this TV 4 and 1/2 years ago and it is still going strong, color reproduction is good is good. This TV can easily go up to 1080i and the reviews I have read after i bought it say that it is the best tv you could buy for that price at that time. I have already stated this but maybe i should say it again. This is a common problem with nvidia drivers when connected to a HDTV and and nvidia refuse to acknowledge it, if you do a google search for blurry washed out colors with nivida drivers you will see what I mean hence why i have to input the EDID data myself, hence why i have this problem.

The monitor does not require drivers it is detected as plug and play. The EDID data is input directly into the nvidia drivers when they are extracted before you install them. You add in a line of code the overides nvidias default EDID data, then when you install them the display comes up correctly.

I think you may be under the impression I have not bought this display yet, but i am not going out to buy a monitor of equal size, the tv is 26 inch but it actually has a 26 inch viewable screen rather than 26 inch in total which i have seen and that cost. loads.

This will more than likely happen if plugged into another HDTV but will not happen on a montior.

I have also mentioned that I have used Nvidia drivers 197 up to the latest beta.

 

[Solarstarshines]

There is the reviews Polaroid FLU-2632 - Read reviews

Obviously I can't help you if you already know what the issue is but there is the review i mentioned good luck

 

[crayonmuncher]

Uhhh all those reviews say it is very good only the speakers are meant to be crap but I have external speakers.

I may know what the problem is but i dont know how to fix, Im thinking either registered tweak or changing the EDID data i put into the drivers.

 

[cptscruffy]

so to clarify, apart from the nvidia inf, you also modified the EDID data for the windows driver?



edit: i THINK the nvidia inf might not have to be touched, but the default driver for the monitor might have to have changes done to the EDID data.

 

[crayonmuncher]

Yeah I have only added data to the nv_disp.inf I have not touched the generic monitor driver.

Funny thing is though is that the default windows driver that comes with 7 looks fine colors are good and text is well defined only the image is underscanned and obviously not very good for gaming, it is only when i install the nvidia drivers that i get the fuzzy washed out colors.

 

[UKMedia]

Hi

Instead of editing the resolution data, have you tried installing default and then resizing within the NVidia control planel?

Also have you tried DXDiag?

Regards
UKMedia

 

[crayonmuncher]

Think you may have missed a bit of info, it is not due to the screen being underscanned (that only happens with the default windows 7 drivers) that i have to input the data it is due to the colours on the screen being washed out and blurry once the nvidia drivers are installed, only when this data is inputted does the screen display normally and is not fuzzy or blurry with washed out colors.

DXdiag has reported every fine as it would do.

 

[cptscruffy]

my advice would be to update the windows display driver with a rebuilt one.
the rebuilt one has to match the EDID data from the lcd panel manufacturing company's manual.