Odd behaviour for this patch Tuesday (Oct.-09-12)

[Anak]

I am inquiring if any members have experienced this, I ran these updates from 7:55pm to 8:22pm EDT this evening 10-10-12.

I have Windows set to check, but let me decide.

For my particular setup I received 14 updates:

• Four for Security.
• Nine for a general update.
• One for the Malicious Software Removal Tool.

The four started to download then stopped, and restarted the download.
The installation went okay.

The nine did the same thing, except for the installation phase. It stopped, re-started the download then restarted the installation twice.
After the second installation phase it concluded successfully.

When I clicked OK on the one to start its download it went right to installation.

As an afterthought I forced a check for any more updates, and a MSE showed up. With my fios (25/10) it took over a minute for 238KB, went to install, and that took longer than usual.

All updates showed they installed successfully.

Our machine seems to be running okay, and all other web-sites that are visited snap to completion.

Could this be a situation on MS's update server, our machine, our ISP?


As an aside, before these 14 showed up I was notified that I had a Silverlight update. it was the same one I hid several months ago. When I tried to hide it again it cleared my check-mark, and reverted to the original notification.
I did this twice.

I finally closed then re-opened Windows Update in Control Panel, and all was normal with the update in question hidden. Another MS update server glitch?

An observation on MS updating practices by A Guy post #35: http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/255699-updating-ie9.html#post2123479

From this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/255699-updating-ie9.html

p.s... If Noels reading this it will give me fodder to study my c:\windows\windowsupdate.log's

 

[DavidE]

I updated a number of PC's with Win7, Vista, and XP. (USA Eastern Time)
Everything went smoothly with no problems installing all updates together.
I just updated a W7 32 Bit PC 11/10 apx. 11:30 PM and no problems.
The attached screen print is for a Win7 64 Bit PC with Office 2010, updated 10/09 apx. 7:30 PM.

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[NoelDP]

p.s... If Noels reading this it will give me fodder to study my c:\windows\windowsupdate.log's

<chuckle>
Enjoy!
:devil:

 

[Anak]

You make an interesting point Dave about downloading, and installing all updates together.
I believe it is a holdover from my earlier days in running computers with the slower machines that I downloaded and installed updates in blocks as I laid out in my OP. From the bottom up 4,9,1

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I just updated the five updates (all together) for my XP box and it went without a hitch, but then it is 6:30am EDT.
Where are MSs update servers located, near Oakland, California or do they have server farms across the country?

This may take several months to figure out if it is time of day sensitive for my location. It was early evening here on the East coast, and the MLB Division playoffs were on, and next month Windows updates will be butting heads with the Presidential elections.
That is when I'll try updating again, at 8pm EST right in the heart of the web's busiest part of that day. :devil:
Don't forget, we'll be going to EST Sunday 11-04-12.

I did find this: Fix the problem with Microsoft Windows Update that is not working, but don't want to use it since I haven't seen any red warnings while updating, and I do have the option to run SFC /scannow.
Defrag is 0%.


Hi Noel! Just saw your post, you made me chuckle to. I'm going to concentrate on yesterday's entries.
We must be on the same wavelength shudder the thought, I was going to take my :devil: out, but now I'm going see your :devil:, and raise you :devil::devil:.

I'm off for morning chores, back in a few hours.

 

[NoelDP]

FWIW, last night I just hit the OK key and forgot about it - it was a bit of a shock when it cam up to ask for the reboot
....had to delay it about 5 times before i got bored and let it go ahead.

No problems.

 

[SIW2]

I just updated my Vista and win7 install media.

Interesting to do - saves alot of time and effort when you have done it.

Finding which updates you need is the tricky bit - there have been about 500 for win7.

I only need about 100 of those.

 

[Layback Bear]

I did two computers.
One computer I did a few at a time starting at the top and rebooted whether ask or not after the few were installed. I did download and install the defender scan tool and MSE updates separately as always. All went well. The other computer I downloaded all at one time and rebooted at the end and all went will with that method as well. I'm just trying to find the best way to do these large Updates. The only thing I do the same no matter which method I use is; I do nothing else on the computer when this process is going on.

 

[Anak]

Well, I spent about 3hours going over my update, and CBS logs, and the first thing I would like to say is, I have a new-found respect for the MVP and Community Contributors they have certainly earned those badges!

I have gone over logs before, but not with this intensity and for them to do this day in, and day out takes a certain kind of stamina.
I stopped about 4hours ago, and my eyes still hurt a bit, and my brain isn't quite as mushy.


Okay, here's what I found out.

Yesterday when I went to download and install the updates I accumulated eight error codes most of them dealing with permissions.

As I went down the log the order in which the stop errors occurred seem to suggest this course of action.

Fix the problem with Microsoft Windows Update that is not working and System Update Readiness Tool fixes Windows Update errors in Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008 R2, and Windows Server 2008
Should take care of these errors 80242013 - 0x80190194 - 80070005


These three are about proxies: 80072ee7 – 0x8024402C - 0x00000000
That made me think about whether or not my LAN settings were set to Automatically Detect, and they were in IE9, but I have been having trouble lately with FF15.0.1 not responding so I checked its settings and it was on Auto detect, but I had the option there to set it for No Proxies.
After I made the change, and restarted FF I haven't had any problems with it.
Error code 0x8024402C when you try to install updates on Windows Update or Microsoft Update Web sites

By the way, for the FF users: http://www.sevenforums.com/security...y-pulls-firefox-16-address-security-flaw.html


These two were tied together: 0x240001 0x8024000B, and Noel, I had the same restart glitch you had, it may be tied to this error. 0x8024000B Windows Update error 8024000B


The CBS log also contained errors such as:

2012-10-10 20:00:38, Error                 CBS    Failed to process single phase execution. [HRESULT = 0x800f0816 - CBS_E_DPX_JOB_STATE_SAVED]
2012-10-10 20:00:38, Info                  CBS    WER: Failure is not worth reporting [HRESULT = 0x800f0816 - CBS_E_DPX_JOB_STATE_SAVED]

2012-10-10 20:01:05, Info                  CBS    Failed to get session package state for package: Package_2_for_KB2731847~31bf3856ad364e35~amd64~~6.1.2.0 [HRESULT = 0x80070490 - ERROR_NOT_FOUND]

2012-10-10 20:01:22, Info                  CSI    000000d1 Error STATUS_CANNOT_DELETE while executing operation HardLinkFile on [l:330{165}]"\SystemRoot\WinSxS\amd64_microsoft-windows-security-kerberos_31bf3856ad364e35_6.1.7601.17926_none_44f41adac7735d74\kerberos.dll, \??\C:\Windows\System32\kerberos.dll"

I'll have to go over these later.



Update Log from time period when I was having my problems yesterday evening:

2012-10-10    20:19:33:000     168    bdc    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\SelfUpdate\wsus3setup.cab:
2012-10-10    20:19:33:015     168    bdc    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2012-10-10    20:19:33:062     168    bdc    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\SelfUpdate\wsus3setup.cab:
2012-10-10    20:19:33:078     168    bdc    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes

2012-10-09    04:04:45:334     476    abc    Agent    WARNING: Failed to evaluate Installed rule, updateId = {2A1234D0-3E2D-4D9E-AA5E-3430A20EDC11}.100, hr = 80242013
2012-10-09    04:04:45:880     476    abc    Agent    WARNING: Failed to evaluate Installed rule, updateId = {818701AF-1182-45C2-BD1E-17068AD171D6}.101, hr = 80242013

2012-10-09    04:04:38:189     476    abc    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80190194
2012-10-09    04:04:38:189     476    abc    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80190194
2012-10-09    04:04:38:189     476    abc    Misc    WARNING: DownloadFileInternal failed for http://download.windowsupdate.com/v9/1/windowsupdate/redir/muv4wuredir.cab: error 0x80190194


2012-10-09    15:30:38:046     476    79c    DtaStor    WARNING: Attempted to add URL http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/common/2012/10/6028563_8f634e0c1396d5bd8f9ec9e11cbc85888d0cf396.cab for file j2NODBOW1b2PnsnhHLyFiI0M85Y= when file has not been previously added to the datastore
2012-10-09    15:30:38:046     476    79c    DtaStor    WARNING: Attempted to add URL http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/common/2012/10/6029014_5c092c2a401c9c5075d13e9ce7a16b04439544a3.cab for file XAksKkAcnFB10T6c56FrBEOVRKM= when file has not been previously added to the datastore
2012-10-09    15:30:38:046     476    79c    DtaStor    WARNING: Attempted to add URL http://download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/common/2012/10/6028107_4a1033a21fa1059c8c4bad13481ef2e04365b924.cab for file ShAzoh+hBZyMS60TSB7y4ENluSQ= when file has not been previously added to the datastore

2012-10-09    15:38:42:223     476    9a8    AU    WARNING: RegSetDwordValue failed for OfflineDetectionPending, hr is 80070005
That suggests that your registry has been modified so that whatever account
is running PID 1236 does not have sufficient authority on whatever key is
involved with that value, http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/975105-post23.html


2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: Send failed with hr = 80072ee7.
2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: SendRequest failed with hr = 80072ee7. Proxy List used: <(null)> Bypass List used : <(null)> Auth Schemes used : <>
2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestUsingProxy failed for <http://download.windowsupdate.com/v9/1/windowsupdate/redir/muv4wuredir.cab>. error 0x8024402c
2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed. error 0x8024402c
2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x8024402c
2012-10-10    02:06:08:411     476    634    Misc    WARNING: WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x8024402c

2012-10-10    02:07:56:428     476    634    Agent      * WARNING: Online service registration/service ID resolution failed, hr=0x8024402C
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    634    Agent      * WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024402C
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    634    Agent    *********
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    634    Agent    **  END  **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    634    Agent    *************
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    634    Agent    WARNING: WU client failed Searching for update with error 0x8024402c
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    131c    AU    >>##  RESUMED  ## AU: Search for updates [CallId = {F67B0EE1-2895-4940-8A18-24F1BBD7EF32}]
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    131c    AU      # WARNING: Search callback failed, result = 0x8024402C
2012-10-10    02:07:56:737     476    131c    AU      # WARNING: Failed to find updates with error code 8024402C

2012-10-10    20:01:41:706     476    6e0    AU      # WARNING: Install call completed, reboot required = Yes, error = 0x00000000
STOP 0x00000000: SYMBOLIC_NAME   Usual causes:  Text

2012-10-10    20:01:51:487     476    11a8    Agent      * WARNING: Exit code = 0x8024000B
2012-10-10    20:01:51:487     476    11a8    Agent    *********
2012-10-10    20:01:51:487     476    11a8    Agent    **  END  **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
2012-10-10    20:01:51:487     476    11a8    Agent    *************
2012-10-10    20:01:51:487     476    11a8    Agent    WARNING: WU client failed Searching for update with error 0x8024000b
2012-10-10    20:01:51:503     476    9a8    Report    REPORT EVENT: {6F5072F3-56EF-41BB-8FDE-BE3527ED8BBF}    2012-10-10 20:01:41:706-0400    1    193    102    {00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000}    0    0    AutomaticUpdates    Success    Content Install    Restart Required: To complete the installation of the following updates, the computer must be restarted. Until this computer has been restarted, Windows cannot search for or download new updates:  - Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2705219) - Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2743555) - Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2724197) - Security Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2731847)
2012-10-10    20:01:51:503     476    9a8    Report    CWERReporter finishing event handling. (00000000)
2012-10-10    20:01:51:503     476    9a8    Report    CWERReporter finishing event handling. (00000000)
2012-10-10    20:01:51:565     476    9a8    Service    *********
2012-10-10    20:01:51:565     476    9a8    Service    **  END  **  Service: Service exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Windows-Update-error-8024000B

SIW2, I'll look into doing it that way.

Layback Bear I'm like you, I do not multi-task when I'm updating.

 

[Layback Bear]

I don't know why but this works for me. No check marks in anything.
View attachment 236163

 

[Anak]

Nice tip! I'm trying it.

Usually when I click on that type of setting the other one will be automatically selected that's why I never bothered to try it.

I'll let it ride like that and see how it goes, thanks Layback.

Just wanted to add that I ran SFC /scannow 3x's, chkdsk and the msert tool all came up clean.

 

[Joan Archer]

I had 17 to do on all 3 machines here, 1 32 bit Ultimate, 1 64 bit Home Premium and 1 64 bit Home Premium Laptop. I did have to sign the new Eula for the Malicious Software Removal Tool before the download and install went ahead but then all 17 downloaded and installed without a glitch.

They all needed the reboot after but as I don't have anything else going on while I'm doing updates there was no problem with that.

 

[Anak]

After going over the information about my update errors I decided to run the Windows Update FixIt.

The results:
View attachment 236372

Even though it claims to resolve incorrect Windows Update data locations you can see in the highlighted red box, it did not.
How would they be repaired, a FixIt/Wizard or manually?


This lead me to thinking about running the System Update Readiness Tool, but there seems to be some caveats.

That page tells me that Windows Updates (WU) will offer me that tool if WU senses a problem with updates, so far it has not, and all during this last episode with patch Tuesday there were no red warnings, BSODs or error messages just erratic behaviour during the update process.

One was to export HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Components, and delete certain keys, but I don't have HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Components anywhere in my registry.

Another was to re-index Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) and cleanup, but I wasn't sure of doing that.
An update for Windows Server Update Services 3.0 Service Pack 2 is available

I do have WSUS 3.0, but not being in a server situation I'm thinking Windows Feels 3.0 is good enough for now and will offer the update when it feels it needs to.


This all leads me back to:

but I have been having trouble lately with FF15.0.1 not responding so I checked its settings and it was on Auto detect, but I had the option there to set it for No Proxies.
After I made the change, and restarted FF I haven't had any problems with it.

I think I failed to tell everyone that I was using FF15.0.1 when I went to apply this last patch Tuesday.
Some of my errors were related to connection inconsistencies, and that lead to the remaining errors.

I have since updated to FF16.0.1 and I notice an improvement in how FF is working without any changes to the proxy settings. So at this point I'm going to let sleeping dogs lie, and update this thread after the next patch Tuesday to let everyone know how it went.