Solved odd behaviour

gazz9496

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so i got this packard bell all in one pc thingy dumped in front of me, the owner had upgraded to windows 8 and started getting random shutdowns.

so i started some diagnostic stuff on it checked the usuals before turning it on, checked the ram and hdd on a seperate test platform.

turned it on and all seemed fine booted into windows no problem, popped over checked the event log, filtered it out and found lots of thermal shutdowns. i stopped there.

now this is where it gets fun.

as the case was still open i checked the fan and the heatsink, all clear and working fine, checked the thermal paste and made sure they were in contact with the cpu.

slotted in a temp meter to check the cpu/gpu.

turned it on and back into windows 8, decided to run the wei for a minor stress test(hadn't been run anyway) starts and gets to running dx10 rendering then shuts down claiming a thermal issue.

checked the temps the entire time, got to 45-50 deg Celsius, no where near the shut off or thermal cap of the parts.

now as to why i'm posting it here on the windows 7 forums, i stuck another hdd in and loaded windows 7 ran the same test, at the exact same point it falls over, I was hoping it was just a driver issue with windows 8 but i'm beginning to wonder now.

i did do other checks but now i need some brain storming from awesome people as i am probably missing or overlooking something silly and basic and can't see it for looking:(

any thoughts or things to try would be great:)
 

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From what I've been able to find out, everything is pointing to the thermal paste or the lever that locks down the cpu in place is loose and needs to be reseated.

So, my advice would be to check and recheck all the physical connections, even the cables (all) of that PC. It sure sounds like something is loose either with the cpu, the cpu fan and heat sink.
 

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Custom built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
Memory
GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500
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XFX Radeon HD 6790 D
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On board RealTek HD
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Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
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1600 X 900
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Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB
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Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
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Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower
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Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler
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Logitech G510
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Razor DeathAdder
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50/5 Mbps UL/DL
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worth a check, i'll have a look tomorrow:)
 

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
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Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
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Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
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Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
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Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
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1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
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Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
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Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
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Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
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Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
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Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
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Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
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ADSL2+
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One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
it's possible the fan isn't spinning enough but the temps were on a meter the whole time, i needed a more accurate reading and one that would show the temps for what they were.


i'll check with that as well fan doesn't spin that fast but then it's not getting that hot in actual temp, need as many options as i can think of xd.

it's possible the gpu just burnt out already and i'm getting a false reading now after the fact.

cheers for thought's so far guys much appreciated, i'll let you know tomorrow if any of that showed any new info.
 

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thanks all for the help, found the problem.
 

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built my own
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win7 ultimate / virtual box
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Intel Core i7 3770K,1155, Ivy Bridge
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MSI Z77A-G43
Memory
GSkill Ripjaws Z Series 1600 CL 9.0 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-E gfx card
Sound Card
onboard Nvidia HDMI audio
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ASUS VK222H 22" widescreen LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
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Kingston 128gb SSD
OCZ Vertex 90gb SSD
500GB WDCaviar 16mb 5000KS
320GB WDCaviar 16mb 3200AAKS sata 2
1TB Samsung 16mb HD103SJ sata 2
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Corsair HX 750W ATX2.2 Modular
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Antec 25 Kuhler H2O 620
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logitech
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logitech MX518
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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
CPU
Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
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