Odd free space inconsistency between drives

Xirix

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I've just noticed this so I thought I'd ask, I just completed a backup of my files I do monthly, I have a 2TB external HDD which holds backup copies from an internal 2TB, so they are both the same max size.

I highlighted and checked the size and size on disc of the files I backed up, they came back as exactly the same on both drives as you might expect, but in My Computer it says my internal 2TB has 161gb free, and my 2TB external has 147gb free, but they both have the same files, where is this 14 gigs of space on the external?

I have hidden files set to show, there's none. So I'm a little confused.
 

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How was the backup done?

Backup and restore in windows or another 3rd part program? Or did you just drag and drop your files over?
 

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Just by copying them over, no programs involved. The files say they're the same size so I'm not concerned for my files, just weirded out by the remaining free space difference...
 

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ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (1 gig I think)
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(1) M-Audio Revolution 5.1 (2) AMD High Definition Audio D
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(1) MAXTOR STM3250310AS ATA Device (2) ST2000DM001-1CH164 ATA Device (3) ST2000DM001-1ER164 ATA Device (4) WDC WD10EARS-22Y5B1 ATA Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device
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Is the internal formatted as ntfs and the external fat32?

You could try formatting the external drive and recopying the data back over.
 

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Just a random thought, is system protection enabled on the external?
 

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It's NTFS, I don't think it's system protected.. how do I check?

I did a chkdsk out of curiousity, just to read the discs. it says my external has some 2000 odd files more than the drive I was backing up.

I had some small issues getting my drive running because the USB cable was faulty, I used a different one and it was fine, but when I was trying to get it working with the faulty cable it kept disconnecting, and it disconnected while I was deleting some old files, could that have put them in some kind of limbo I can't get to?
 

My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
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ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D-E LX
Memory
12.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (1 gig I think)
Sound Card
(1) M-Audio Revolution 5.1 (2) AMD High Definition Audio D
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE278H 27"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR STM3250310AS ATA Device (2) ST2000DM001-1CH164 ATA Device (3) ST2000DM001-1ER164 ATA Device (4) WDC WD10EARS-22Y5B1 ATA Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device
PSU
OCZ700
I doubt it is system protected as it is an external hard drive. If it was it would be listed under system protection in system properties.

The drive being disconnected like that could cause some weirdness. Like I said, I would format the drive and recopy your data over with a known good cable.
 

My Computer

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CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
Motherboard
ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Sound Card
Motherboard Built in
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
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220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
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Wired Dell keyboard
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Wireless Logitech mouse
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Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Asrock P67 Extreme4
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16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
auria eq2367
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
1TB WD Blue
1TB Hitachi
PSU
SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
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Logitech Wireless Mouse M310
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Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
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Edge, IE11, Chrome
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Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
@derekimo

I actually do have it on and I also use windows backup as well. :) What I meant was I do not think you can turn on system protection for external hard drives. At least, I cannot get it to work.
 

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AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
Motherboard
ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Sound Card
Motherboard Built in
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Chrome-ish x64
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Works for me, there is this warning though,
 

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My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Self Built
OS
Win 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
Motherboard
Asrock P67 Extreme4
Memory
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
auria eq2367
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
1TB WD Blue
1TB Hitachi
PSU
SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Mouse M310
Internet Speed
Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Edge, IE11, Chrome
Other Info
Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
Huh, interesting. Thanks.

I found out the reason. My external drive is fat 32. I think it has to be ntfs
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 Pro
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
Motherboard
ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Sound Card
Motherboard Built in
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
Browser
Chrome-ish x64
Other Info
Your awesome for reading this.
Okay I reformatted and backed up the files again, chkdsk is coming back with the correct amount of files now, but instead of having less free space than my internal, I now have 11 gigs or so MORE free space on the external, again.. I checked the files by selecting them all and going to properties, exact same size.

Perhaps there's for some reason 11 gigs of files I don't see on my internal, but my internal is pretty new, it shouldn't have years of random crap on it. (Also it;s not the OS drive)

I'm happy I somehow now have more free space on my external, but I am still very confused.

From what I can tell the file allocation size is the same for both drives (if that's relevant).

It's not security protected... very confused.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. P7P55D-E LX
Memory
12.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series (1 gig I think)
Sound Card
(1) M-Audio Revolution 5.1 (2) AMD High Definition Audio D
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE278H 27"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
(1) MAXTOR STM3250310AS ATA Device (2) ST2000DM001-1CH164 ATA Device (3) ST2000DM001-1ER164 ATA Device (4) WDC WD10EARS-22Y5B1 ATA Device (5) Generic USB SD Reader USB Device
PSU
OCZ700
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