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This is actually a three part post. First some background:

I build my own systems...for myself and for fun, not for profit. I have three machines: the current/newest, a five year old XP Pro build, and a Linux box.

I've been putting the 64-bit version of the RC through stress and endurance on the new system I built over the weekend (a beast). It looks good so far. I put a lot of work in and I'm wondering...I used an OEM version of XP Pro from Newegg on the older Windows box. Will Newegg, or anyone, be offering OEM disks for home builders? That would really reduce the cost of the OS...or at least make it more palatable.

The next thing is, with all this work I've put in, it would be a real pain to have to start completely from scratch again (configure RAID, install all apps, setup network and network shares etc). Is all that work wasted? Or is there a way to save the configuration? Maybe install on top of the RC?

Thanks
 

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Acer H242H 24" HD 1080p Widescreen
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This is actually a three part post. First some background:

I build my own systems...for myself and for fun, not for profit. I have three machines: the current/newest, a five year old XP Pro build, and a Linux box.

I've been putting the 64-bit version of the RC through stress and endurance on the new system I built over the weekend (a beast). It looks good so far. I put a lot of work in and I'm wondering...I used an OEM version of XP Pro from Newegg on the older Windows box. Will Newegg, or anyone, be offering OEM disks for home builders? That would really reduce the cost of the OS...or at least make it more palatable.

The next thing is, with all this work I've put in, it would be a real pain to have to start completely from scratch again (configure RAID, install all apps, setup network and network shares etc). Is all that work wasted? Or is there a way to save the configuration? Maybe install on top of the RC?

Thanks


Im assuming your saying OEM discs - 'for Win7'...

that hasen't officially been decided yet, Im pretty sure their just going to incorperate it into one of M$'s 8-12 SKU's their coming out with, (make one an OEM-like grade of install)

I haven't done it, but yeah, im pretty sure you will have to do the whole RAID thing over again with a new install (sorry).

thanks,
Ant
 

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Myself
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Windows 7 64bit Ultimate Build 7268.0.090701-1900
CPU
Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
Memory
4GB 6400 Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
1GB DDR3 x16 + 512mb ddr2 x1
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I dunno, but it puts out a good 7.1 sur through the fiber :D
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Quad-Monitor display (check out the photo)
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1200x1600
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(2 x 1TB) + (1 x 500Gb)

tip: Always run your OS on a small Disk with away from your large storage files, and make sure theirs plenty of Cache (32mb recommnded).
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1000w
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a block of wood
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Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64
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GA-EP45-DS3L
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4Go PC2-6400
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8500GT @ 700/500
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Audigy Platinium
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Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 920 + Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 720
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1600x1200 twice
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Hitachi 160Go
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Corsair VX550W
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Thermaltake Xaser III
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Watercooling (CPU, GPU, HDD, NB)
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Cobbled together :)
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integrated
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Samsung SyncMaster 204t (dual monitors)
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Even if Seven will final allow it (wathever the way, official or not), you really better have to reinstall from scratch.

You can use MS Easy transfert tool to move somes configuration from old version to new one.

Description of Windows Easy Transfer for Windows Vista


Very true for DL' OS's, (going TO XP/Vista and before) but you might be quite surprised at Win7's reliability with upgrading.

LePoilu, give an upgrade a shot, and let us know if you can come across any downturns.

Thanks,
Ant
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate Build 7268.0.090701-1900
CPU
Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
Memory
4GB 6400 Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
1GB DDR3 x16 + 512mb ddr2 x1
Sound Card
I dunno, but it puts out a good 7.1 sur through the fiber :D
Monitor(s) Displays
Quad-Monitor display (check out the photo)
Screen Resolution
1200x1600
Hard Drives
(2 x 1TB) + (1 x 500Gb)

tip: Always run your OS on a small Disk with away from your large storage files, and make sure theirs plenty of Cache (32mb recommnded).
PSU
1000w
Case
a block of wood
Cooling
Intel Standard. tip: Dont overclock with beta win7...
Internet Speed
15meg
MS has always had the 3 main levels of their OS: Retail, Upgrade and OEM. We will probably see the OEM discs hit the online shops like Newegg somewhere around November... or possibly later of Ms decides to hold off until after the new year...
 

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Custom built desktops and a Compaq CQ60-211DX laptop
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Desktops: GA-EP35-DS3P, GA-P965-DS3, A7N8X
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Desktop 1: 320GB Seagate main, 500GB WD backup, 120GB WD testing
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varies, 350W to 550W
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8Mb+ cable
Very true for DL' OS's, (going TO XP/Vista and before) but you might be quite surprised at Win7's reliability with upgrading.

LePoilu, give an upgrade a shot, and let us know if you can come across any downturns.

Thanks,
Ant


The upgrade process for Seven is the same as with Vista (and wathever is the OS you upgrade):

Copying users files/datas, parameters, Drivers & Cie
Wipeout all data on the system drive
Copying new system files
Restore Users data.

But only one wrong software or driver and all the process can have trouble.

And this process take much more time than a clean install.

Clean install + easytransfert is faster and you are sur to have no trouble cause of a software or driver which didn't like the upgrade.

I'm not talking about final reliability of the system while the upgrade process is over (because it's the same as a clean install thanks to the new process). But talking about the issue you may have during the process and the longest time it take.
 

My Computer

OS
Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64
CPU
Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz
Motherboard
GA-EP45-DS3L
Memory
4Go PC2-6400
Graphics Card(s)
8500GT @ 700/500
Sound Card
Audigy Platinium
Monitor(s) Displays
Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 920 + Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 720
Screen Resolution
1600x1200 twice
Hard Drives
Hitachi 160Go
Maxtor 160Go (system drive)
Maxtor 200Go in Antec MX-1 EC external box (eSATA-USB2.0)
PSU
Corsair VX550W
Case
Thermaltake Xaser III
Cooling
Watercooling (CPU, GPU, HDD, NB)
Keyboard
MS Wireless Multimedia 6000 V2.0
Mouse
IntellEye Explorer 3.0
Internet Speed
ADSL 18Mbit/s/1Mbit/s
The upgrade process for Seven is the same as with Vista (and wathever is the OS you upgrade):

Copying users files/datas, parameters, Drivers & Cie
Wipeout all data on the system drive
Copying new system files
Restore Users data.

But only one wrong software or driver and all the process can have trouble.

And this process take much more time than a clean install.

Clean install + easytransfert is faster and you are sur to have no trouble cause of a software or driver which didn't like the upgrade.

I'm not talking about final reliability of the system while the upgrade process is over (because it's the same as a clean install thanks to the new process). But talking about the issue you may have during the process and the longest time it take.


I think you will be pleasently surprised when (if) you try it. while your theory does make sense, and was true; that norm is no longer. I am actively looking for downturns, and please do not discourage it without some backing.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Myself
OS
Windows 7 64bit Ultimate Build 7268.0.090701-1900
CPU
Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4GHz
Memory
4GB 6400 Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
1GB DDR3 x16 + 512mb ddr2 x1
Sound Card
I dunno, but it puts out a good 7.1 sur through the fiber :D
Monitor(s) Displays
Quad-Monitor display (check out the photo)
Screen Resolution
1200x1600
Hard Drives
(2 x 1TB) + (1 x 500Gb)

tip: Always run your OS on a small Disk with away from your large storage files, and make sure theirs plenty of Cache (32mb recommnded).
PSU
1000w
Case
a block of wood
Cooling
Intel Standard. tip: Dont overclock with beta win7...
Internet Speed
15meg
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