Optimizing Windows 7 for Video Memory - Help

DarkPhoenix

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Hi guys..

I came across an interesting article called
"Windows 7 Way Smarter With Graphics RAM" - Found here: Windows 7 Way Smarter With Graphics RAM - Tom's Hardware

They talk about WDDM Drivers version 1.1 and how Windows 7 uses these drivers to manage ram and video ram differently from Vista and how it makes much more efficient use of your ram.

What are these WDDM drivers? Are they built into Windows, and do they really help? I am confused on this.

The article mentions Direct X 10 - Are these Direct X 10 drivers and Do you need a newer video card that supports DX10 and 11 to make this work?

I need to know soon because I am planing on getting a new video card in less than a month. This will be 1 Gigabyte card but I am not sure if it will be an ATI or Nvidia - Price and functionality will determine.

I am trying to get the best performance out of my system as possible.
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Currently my system specks are:

Motherboard- ECS GF7050VT-M

CPU Type Intel Pentium 4 631, 3000 MHz (15 x 200) With Hyper-threading listed in Everest as:

Cedar Mills

Motherboard ID nVidia MCP73

Multi CPU

CPU #1 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 3000 MHz

And

CPU #2 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz, 3000 MHz

(Someone please clear this up for me.. this does Not mean I have 2 physical processors but 1 processor with 2 cores? Is that correct? Confused!)

Socket type 775 Contact LGA

Instruction Set x86, x86-64, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3

4 Gigabytes of DDR2 SDRam

American Megatrends BIOS Version 080015

Video Adapter ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro (RV630)- PCI Express with 512 MB Video Ram

(older card made for direct-X 9 However in Everest it does say Direct X 10 hardware support ?? Confused!)

500 GB SATA 2 Hard drive running Win 7 64 Bit with SATA Mode in ACHI Enabled.

(I enabled ACHI Mode to be sure I get all of the functionality for speed out of my drive as it' capable of.)

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Can someone please give me advice on the above and answer my confusion on my system specs?

Also, is there anything in Bios I can change settings wise?

I want to replace my processor - not sure if I want to replace the motherboard (made in January of 2008) and the processor together or just the pocessor. Price is a big factor - Just can't afford it yet.

I also use a program called Game Booster to defrag my PC games folders and system memory just before I start a game. I play a lot of PC games. So far I have not played any games that require a DX 10 or higher video card - I do not know that I can with my system processor.

I will accept all advice on Bios or Windows 7 Settings - Virtual Ram settings -

And also on video cards under $150.00 and replacing my Motherboard and or processor- preferably under $200.00. * Please offer advice.

I want this machine to be the best I can get it with what I have to work with until I can get everything upgraded.

Thank You!
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
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Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Alienware Aurora ALX
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
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Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Why don't you buy a card from the upcoming HD5600 series. They should have a price tag of less than $100. Just buy it and forget it. :D

Anything higher would definitely be overkill for your PC.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Extreme4
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX670 JetStream @1155MHz
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama ProLite E2773HDS
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 series 250GB,
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data),
Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
PSU
Corsair TX850
Case
Silverstone Raven RV03
Cooling
Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B
Keyboard
Logitech G15 V2
Mouse
Logitech G500 + Steelseries QCK mat
Internet Speed
100Mbps/100Mbps unlimited
Why don't you buy a card from the upcoming HD5600 series. They should have a price tag of less than $100. Just buy it and forget it. :D

Anything higher would definitely be overkill for your PC.

I will look into it. Whatever card I choose, it has got to be a DDR3 or GDDR3 card that's DX 11 capable and of course 1 gig o video memory..( PCI Express) It looks like Nvidia XFX cards have have models comparable to the ATI cards with more bells and whistles graphics rendering wise. I will have to study the features in depth to know more.

Also, I have to take into account what will work well when I upgrade the cpu and motherboard.

Thanks for the link and the explanation Logicearth. That helped.
 

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OS
Windows 7
As far as I know, all of ATI's HD 5000 series cards are DirectX 11 (currently the only card) and uses GDDR5 (much better then GDDR3).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Why don't you buy a card from the upcoming HD5600 series. They should have a price tag of less than $100. Just buy it and forget it. :D

Anything higher would definitely be overkill for your PC.

I will look into it. Whatever card I choose, it has got to be a DDR3 or GDDR3 card that's DX 11 capable and of course 1 gig o video memory..( PCI Express) It looks like Nvidia XFX cards have have models comparable to the ATI cards with more bells and whistles graphics rendering wise. I will have to study the features in depth to know more.

Also, I have to take into account what will work well when I upgrade the cpu and motherboard.
It is better if you wait and buy all of them together. Then you would know what is best for your PC. A slower video card is bad. So is a faster video card, because if your CPU bottlenecks it, you are wasting money. Same way, if you buy the greatest out there for the sake of future proofing it, when the real need for a highend card is there (i.e. after a CPU upgrade), the prices of same hardware then would be lower than now, and you would effectively be wasting money again.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Extreme4
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX670 JetStream @1155MHz
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama ProLite E2773HDS
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 series 250GB,
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data),
Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
PSU
Corsair TX850
Case
Silverstone Raven RV03
Cooling
Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B
Keyboard
Logitech G15 V2
Mouse
Logitech G500 + Steelseries QCK mat
Internet Speed
100Mbps/100Mbps unlimited
It is better if you wait and buy all of them together. Then you would know what is best for your PC. A slower video card is bad. So is a faster video card, because if your CPU bottlenecks it, you are wasting money. Same way, if you buy the greatest out there for the sake of future proofing it, when the real need for a highend card is there (i.e. after a CPU upgrade), the prices of same hardware then would be lower than now, and you would effectively be wasting money again.

Great idea, but that's a problem. Someone is buying me the card for gift so I have to get the card now.

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Logicearth - I had no idea the DDR5 series was out. Great tip, i'll look to be sure I can find one in my price range - Or rather in the person's price range who is buying me the card.

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Any thoughts guys on the confusion problems with understanding my specs or tweaking bios or virtual memory or other windows settings?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Extreme4
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX670 JetStream @1155MHz
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama ProLite E2773HDS
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 series 250GB,
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data),
Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
PSU
Corsair TX850
Case
Silverstone Raven RV03
Cooling
Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B
Keyboard
Logitech G15 V2
Mouse
Logitech G500 + Steelseries QCK mat
Internet Speed
100Mbps/100Mbps unlimited
What mobo and cpu you are running? I think ATI has more seamless driver integration with AMD now they are under the same umbrella. Nvidia has given me some fits over the years.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom
OS
7 x64 Ultimate
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming
Memory
16GB DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon R7 360
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Dell U2518D
Screen Resolution
2560x1440 2560x1440
Hard Drives
WD 500GB x2
Samsung SSD 128MB (OS)
XPG SX8200 Pro M.2 2280 1TB
PSU
Antec 500
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Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech cordless K800
Mouse
Logitech M510
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Avira
Well. I got my card.. I have a ATI HD 5750 and so far I love it. 1 gig and DDR5 !! Direct X 11 and Pixel shader 5.0.. lots of bells and whistles.

It wound up costing $169.00.

At first I tried a GeForce GT 240 DDR3 - (it was only $129.00) an nvidia chipset..(made by GalaxyTech) and had nothing but trouble with it. It would not even load windows on generic super vga drivers ! I tried this with win 7 64 bit and XP 32 bit. It would not even load into Safe Mode !

The GalaxyTech tech support was horrible.. after 6 phone calls to them and none of them giving me any good advice to troubleshoot the problem, they said it must be a bad card.. so I got another one just like it.. Nope nada Zip.. still would not load windows.. and I did everything from resetting CMOS, to setting my memory timings manually in Bios, flash updating my bios, cleaning all drivers out using the Microsoft Installation Clean Up Tool, even upping the voltage on my northbridge.. Nothing worked.

Oh.. the tech support did not tell me to try any of these things.. I found out about these things from a forum for nvidia LOL At least I learned a lot about my PC, otherwise I may never have learned all those things.:-)

If you try a card made by Galaxy Tech.. if it works great the first time, good.. if not.. Run like Hell!

All the guys at galaxy tech did was insist "it cannot be the cards fault" - Well after trying two of them.. apperently they were wrong.

The ATI XFX Radeon HD 5750 loaded windows without a hitch.

And it works great with my older processor.. a Pentium 4, ( D, Cedar Mills) A concern I had.

Plus they gave me this really Cool " Do Not Disturb I'm Gaming " sign to hang on my door. I dig it. :-)
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7
i'm glad there was light at the end of the tunnel for you. :)
enjoy the card, and happy gaming.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built
OS
Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard
ASRock Z68 Extreme4
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Palit GTX670 JetStream @1155MHz
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium PCI-E
Monitor(s) Displays
Iiyama ProLite E2773HDS
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 series 250GB,
Toshiba DT01ACA300 3TB (Data),
Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00DC0B0 3TB (Backup)
PSU
Corsair TX850
Case
Silverstone Raven RV03
Cooling
Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B
Keyboard
Logitech G15 V2
Mouse
Logitech G500 + Steelseries QCK mat
Internet Speed
100Mbps/100Mbps unlimited
Very good. I love to hear happy endings. :D
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
CPU
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5
Memory
2.50 GB RAM
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS
Sound Card
SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VX 1962 wm
Screen Resolution
1680 X 1050
Hard Drives
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB
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Fan based
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Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB
Mouse
Logitec optic USB
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3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
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