Pale Moon Browser

Corrine

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The Pale Moon browser is built on Firefox source code. After installation, I launched Pale Moon and it opened with my Firefox customized menu bar, bookmarks, add-ons, extensions, start pages. I've only been using it a few hours. Other than it loading much faster than Firefox, I haven't noticed any differences.

The Pale Moon Project homepage

Main features:

* Highly optimized for current processors
* 100% Firefox sourced: As safe as the browser that has seen years of development.
* Uses slightly less memory because of disabled redundant and optional code
* Significant speed increases for page drawing and script processing
* Support for SVG and Canvas
* Support for Firefox extensions, themes and personas



System Requirements:

* Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/Seven, 32-bit or 64-bit (64-bit O.S.es are not natively supported, but the browser will run fine on them)
* A 7th generation or later processor with SSE2 support like a Pentium IV or Athlon 64 or later (see list of supported processors) Standard Pale Moon will NOT run on Athlon XP processors! Please GO HERE if you are running on an Athlon XP or Athlon MP processor machine.
* 64 MB of RAM (128 MB or more recommended)
* At least 35 MB of free (uncompressed) disk space
Pale Moon - Technical Details
The following features have been disabled by design:

* ActiveX and ActiveX scripting. ActiveX is specific to Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and is not natively supported by (any) Firefox builds. There are some extensions that enable ActiveX components and scripts to run in Firefox on Windows, which will, therefore, not run in Pale Moon. This is a security consideration more than a speed consideration.
* Accessibility features. Most people, and certainly the people looking for speed optimized browsers, don't have a need for accessibility features. This cuts down some on the input complexity, and increases speed, but will, obviously, not be suitable for people who need these features.
* Parental controls. Pale Moon aims to be a fast browser for general use, not a "secured family browser". The design impact of parental controls as introduced in Firefox 3.0 and later is significant, and has had serious implications for building the browser. As such, parental controls have been disabled.
* A few miscellaneous things like the crashreporter and automatic updater, since they require server-side components that are not in place at palemoon.org. You will have to check manually if you have the latest version and update accordingly.
It also doesn't support all AMD processors.
 

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OS
Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
Thanks Corrine. I downloaded it and will use it for a while. Its seams faster but not sure. Will give it a good spin, but so far its looks good. The only negative is no Update button. Need to go to their site to check.

Jim :geek:
 

My Computer

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PC/Desktop
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Home Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100T
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0
PSU
Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular
Case
Corsair 400R
Cooling
Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Mouse
Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad
Internet Speed
15MB
Antivirus
Norton IS 2013, Malwarebytes Pro Beta 2
Browser
IE-11, FF-27
Other Info
APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner
I can't tell the difference between it and firefox. It doesn't have it's own title, it looks exactly the same ...

Oh yeah, if I change any setting in Pale Moon, it changes them in FIrefox as well and vice versa. I guess I'll use it for now since it seems a bit faster.
 

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Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009)
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W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
CPU
Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn]
Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)]
Memory
4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz]
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NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1]
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SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled)
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Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled)
Screen Resolution
{Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200
Hard Drives
{Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]

{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR]
PSU
Magsafe
Case
Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52)
Cooling
2 x 6000 RPM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379]
Mouse
Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338]
Internet Speed
12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast]
Other Info
Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset
Palemoon

Thanks Corrine.

try troubleshooting tab under help! wow.

much faster (on my sys) at loading and rendering pages.

happy camper, for now:thumbsup:
 

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Self
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W7, Xp Pro
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AMD Sempron 2600+
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K8V-MX
Memory
1GB
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Radeon HD3650
Sound Card
Soundmax
Monitor(s) Displays
17" HP CRT
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
1x WDC WD800BB
1x HDS728080
PSU
? 460W
Case
Coolermaster
Cooling
enough
Keyboard
M$S
Mouse
Optical
Internet Speed
1500kbs
Other Info
OLD!!! does the job i need.
I have to say, a LOT faster then Firefox 3.6.3. Hell, could someone please post a Peacekeeper comparison of this VS the latest dev build of Chrome? (Me and Dev Chrome aren't getting along so well right now)
 

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Custom | Whitebox
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
CPU
Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1)
Memory
2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition
Sound Card
Realtek ALC888
Monitor(s) Displays
21" VIZIO TV
Screen Resolution
1680x1050 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
Hitachi HDP725016GLA380 - 160GB
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
NZXT Nemesis Elite
Cooling
Thermaltake SpinQ
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless S520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse
Internet Speed
Download: 20mbps, Upload: 3mbps
Hey, thanks. This is noticeably more responsive to me. :D

I will try it out for a while and see how it fairs...me likes.
 

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PC/Desktop
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Airbot 2.0
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air
Motherboard
Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
Memory
12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz
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Zotac Geforce GTX 770
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar D2X
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1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60hz
Hard Drives
1 Samsung 250GB 840 Evo SSD
1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)

Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
PSU
Corsair HX1000W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Cooling
Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MK700
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MK700
Internet Speed
DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps
Antivirus
None
Browser
Firefox Nightly
Other Info
Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- LG Nexus 5
Testing it out now. All my addons and theme are working with it.
 

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self built
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Intel E8400 3GHz
Motherboard
Intel DX48BT2
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Kingston PC3-10700H 4Gb
Graphics Card(s)
XFX Radeon HD 5850 BlackEd.
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Asus Xonar DG
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2x Samsung SM-T220HD 22"
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1680x1050 on two monitors
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OCZ Vertex 2 120gb 3.5" (OS)
Seagate Momentus XT 500gb
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2x Samsung F1 1Tb
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Thermaltake ToughPower 850w
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Thermaltake Armor
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Scythe Mugen II
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Microsoft Comfort Curve USB
Mouse
Razer Diamondback 3G
Internet Speed
8128/443
Thanks Corrine. I downloaded it and will use it for a while. Its seams faster but not sure. Will give it a good spin, but so far its looks good. The only negative is no Update button. Need to go to their site to check.

Jim :geek:

Since security is my primary "interest", that was the main reason I hesitated posting about the browser. I pay close attention to updates of programs installed on my computer but know from experience that too many people don't. My plan is when FF updates, check for a Pale Moon update.
 

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OS
Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
I am intrigued.....site bookmarked for a closer look later when I have more time. Thanks for sharing Corrine.:geek:
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R
Memory
2x 2GB OCZ DDR II SDRAM PC2-6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1440x900
Hard Drives
Internal:WD Caviar Black 640GB 32MB cache 7200RPM
External:Samsung Story Station 1TB HDD desktop drive
500GB Toshiba portable drive
PSU
Antec Earthwatts EA500D
Case
Antec Sonata III
Cooling
4 fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wave
Mouse
Logitech M-SBF90
Internet Speed
Slow due to home Wireless-G router
Antivirus
MSE, Hitman Pro, Malwarebytes
Browser
Chrome and Palemoon
Other Info
Laptop....Acer 5750Z-4835
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display: (1366x768 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio)
Intel® Pentium® Processor B940 (2.0GHz, 2MB L3 cache)
Windows® 7 Home Premium,500GB Hard Drive,4GB DDR3 RAM, Intel® HD Graphics,8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader,802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Chrome and Palemoon, MSE, Hitman Pro
I tried it a couple of days ago when I saw it on life-hacker. I saw ZERO difference in speed and about the same score on peacekeeper benchmark. So I uninstalled it.

Note that the very first time I launched it, I thought it launched really fast, but since I already had Firefox running, when I clicked the PaleMoon link, it just gave me another Firefox window, so it wasn't launching at all.

Once I closed all my browser windows, It launched at the same speed as firefox.
 

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OS
Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
CPU
Intel Q9400 @ 3.2 GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte DS3L
Memory
6GB PC 6400
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia 8800GT
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Dual WD Green 1TB
Internet Speed
10 Mb/s
I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%. However, there is a problem with Java which I had the latest Java 6 build 20 version but when I use this browser to check on Java website, it said my Java version is 6....... anyone got the same problem??
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7
I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%. However, there is a problem with Java which I had the latest Java 6 build 20 version but when I use this browser to check on Java website, it said my Java version is 6....... anyone got the same problem??

I get the same thing with Java. However FF is giving the same message. If you do their online test they both work and show the correct information. I also found out on Blue Moon web site that they will be a delay on updates after FF release. He needs to recompile and then test his version and he also won't be keeping up with minor updates. Pale Moon is a one man operation so I can see the reason for a delay on updates. Will just have to see how that works out.

Jim :geek:
 

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PC/Desktop
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Home Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100T
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0
PSU
Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular
Case
Corsair 400R
Cooling
Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Mouse
Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad
Internet Speed
15MB
Antivirus
Norton IS 2013, Malwarebytes Pro Beta 2
Browser
IE-11, FF-27
Other Info
APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner
Shows OK for me..:huh:

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Airbot 2.0
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Core i7 920 (D0) @ 4Ghz, *26c idle *65c full load on air
Motherboard
Asus P6X58D Premium - Sata 6Gb/s - USB 3.0
Memory
12GB DDR3 Corsair Dominator -CMD12GX3M6A1600C8 at 1600MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac Geforce GTX 770
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
1 LG 24" Flatron W2453V-PF 1 Samsung 24" P2450H both 2ms RT
Screen Resolution
1920x1080@60hz
Hard Drives
1 Samsung 250GB 840 Evo SSD
1 OCZ Vertex2 180GB SSD
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 7200RPM 32MB cache
2 500GB WD Caviar Blacks 7200RPM 32MB cache (WD5001AALS)

Pioneer DVD Burner DVR-S18M
PSU
Corsair HX1000W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 932
Cooling
Case Fans *3 230mm, *1 140mm/CPU - *Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless MK700
Mouse
Logitech Wireless MK700
Internet Speed
DL 15 Mbps UL 0.98 Mbps
Antivirus
None
Browser
Firefox Nightly
Other Info
Processor-7.7 *RAM- 7.9 *Graphics-7.9 *Gaming Graphics- 7.9 *SSD- 7.8 W.E.I final score= 7.7
*Phone- LG Nexus 5
Definitely more responsive. Thanks for that link!
 

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Toshiba L505
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Windows 7 64x
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AMD Turion II Dual-Core Mobile M520 2.30 GHz
Memory
4GB
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ATI Radeon HD 4200
hi !

Pale Moon feels faster than FF, it starts a lot quicker than FF & i also noticed that it seems to use less memory.

i ran some tests on peacekeaper:
FF 3.63 = 629,
PM = 673, 7%
FF 3.7pre-alpha5 = 743, 18%
Opera 10.51 = 820, 30%

faster, all compared to FF 3.63

manual updating is no problem, that´s what i´ve always do with FF anyway...
 
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Dell
OS
W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
CPU
P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400MHz FSB...)
Motherboard
Intel 850E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Sound Card
Yes
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1702FP
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Yes
PSU
Yes
Case
Yes
Cooling
Yes
Keyboard
Yes
Mouse
Yes, and i also have Cats...
Internet Speed
University: 100 MBit/s, Home: UMTS 7,2 MBit/s
Other Info
W7 on a DINOSAUR: P2 with 266MHz CPU & 160MB RAM
Shows OK for me..:huh:

View attachment 67687

I found the reason mine was giving that error. Due to a security bug prior to 1.6.0_20 it was recommended to disable Java Deployment Toolkit in plugins. With it disabled the verify gives the wrong information. When it is enabled it verified correctly. Since PM and FF share the same profile, what you set in PM also affects FF and that plugin was affecting both browsers.

Jim :geek:
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
CPU
Phenom II X6 1100T
Motherboard
ASUS M5A99X EVO
Memory
Crucial Balistic 8gb DDR3-1866 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
MSI R6850 Cyclone IGD5 PE
Sound Card
On Board
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VE258Q 25" LED with DVI-HDMI-DisplayPort
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Two WD Cavier Black 2TB Sata III, WD My Book Essential 2TB USB 3.0
PSU
Seasonic X650 80 Plus GOLD Modular
Case
Corsair 400R
Cooling
Antec Kuhler H2O 620, Two 120mm and four 140mm
Keyboard
Logitech K120
Mouse
Logitech Marble Mouse USB, Logitech Precision Game Pad
Internet Speed
15MB
Antivirus
Norton IS 2013, Malwarebytes Pro Beta 2
Browser
IE-11, FF-27
Other Info
APC UPS ES 750, Netgear WNR3500L Gigabit & Wireless N Router with SamKnows Test Program, Motorola SB6120 Gigabit Cable Modem. Brother HL-2170W Laser Printer, Epson V300 Scanner
firefox2010: "I tested this browser on peacekeeper and found that it's only faster than firefox about 10%"

"ONLY 10%" ?

is that not a good improvement ?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
CPU
P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400MHz FSB...)
Motherboard
Intel 850E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Sound Card
Yes
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1702FP
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Yes
PSU
Yes
Case
Yes
Cooling
Yes
Keyboard
Yes
Mouse
Yes, and i also have Cats...
Internet Speed
University: 100 MBit/s, Home: UMTS 7,2 MBit/s
Other Info
W7 on a DINOSAUR: P2 with 266MHz CPU & 160MB RAM
It should be noted that when I uninstalled PM and switched back to FF, FF had issues reclaiming default browser status. No matter how many times I checked it, it wouldn't take. It required uninstalling the program and then reinstalling. Thankfully it didn't require deleting preferences and add-ons.
 

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Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009)
OS
W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
CPU
Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn]
Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)]
Memory
4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz]
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1]
Sound Card
SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled)
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled)
Screen Resolution
{Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200
Hard Drives
{Internal}
Seagate Momentus 320GB 2.5" 7200RPM [ST9320421AS]

{Externals}
LaCie 320GB USB 2.0 HDD [301284UR]
LaCie 750GB USB 2.0 FW400 eSATA HDD [301314U]
LaCie 1TB USB 2.0 HDD [301304UR]
PSU
Magsafe
Case
Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52)
Cooling
2 x 6000 RPM Fans
Keyboard
Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379]
Mouse
Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338]
Internet Speed
12Mbps/2.5Mbps w/ 24Mbps Speed Boost [Comcast]
Other Info
Logitech X-540 Speakers [PN 970223-0122]
Sennheiser PC-151 Headset
an update with testresults from peacekeeper: FF 3.7pre-alpha5 = 743, 18% & Opera 10.51 = 820, 30% faster
compared to FF 3.63
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
W7-Enterprise + WS-2008 (Converted to Workstation)
CPU
P4 2,4GHz (at 1,8GHz, "slow" RDRAM, only 400MHz FSB...)
Motherboard
Intel 850E
Memory
2GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA QUADRO2 PRO 64MB
Sound Card
Yes
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 1702FP
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Yes
PSU
Yes
Case
Yes
Cooling
Yes
Keyboard
Yes
Mouse
Yes, and i also have Cats...
Internet Speed
University: 100 MBit/s, Home: UMTS 7,2 MBit/s
Other Info
W7 on a DINOSAUR: P2 with 266MHz CPU & 160MB RAM
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