PC upgrade to i7 based unit

andyp3001

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Hi all,
Current PC specs:

AMD Phenom II X4 945
4Gb RAM
680Gb HDD
Sapphire HD7850 OC 2Gb
XFX 500W PSU

I wish to get another PC. The current one is 5 years old and is OEM and maxxed out everywhere (RAM, CPU). It originally was Athlon X3 440, no GPU and 3Gb RAM.

I use it for allsorts, and I do like my gaming, but I'm bothered about ultra maxxed out 4K, etc. My monitor is a 20" 1600 x 900 res., but that suits me fine. The PC is now getting long in the tooth, especially where the latest games are concerned. On Far Cry 4 the CPU and RAM only meet the minimum spec.! I am looking at a rig with a i7 4770S CPU (lower power 3.1Ghz version), with 6Gb DDR3 PC3-12800 1600Mhz RAM (I can increase that up to 16Gb if I wish) and 1Tb HDD. I intend to transplant the HD 7850 OC and PSU from my old rig to beef things up. Being on 1600 x 900 res, it should be OK for good FPS. Would this set-up have longevity and play the latest games in the years to come? The graphics card will be upgraded in the years ahead if required. I am not a PC technician, so don't want to go down the route of a self build, but am OK performing upgrades. I have been looking at a PC with an i5 4460 for a little less money, but wish to have something that will be future-proofed for quite a while. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Hewlett Packard G5105UK
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 945
Motherboard
Pegatron Corporation 2A99 (CPU 1)
Memory
4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 669Mhz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
RADEON Sapphire HD7850 OC 2Gb
Sound Card
RealTek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
20" 1600 x 900 res @ 60Hz. HP2010i monitor
Hard Drives
625Gb Western Digital WDC WD64 00AAKS-65Z7B SCSI Disk Drive (ATA)
PSU
XFX Pro Core Edition 450W
Case
Standard
Cooling
Normal Fan
Depending on who you talk to you will get different answers, some people say that Games don't take advantage of hyper threading so i7 is overkill, others say it does.

I say, with games being console ports (for the most part) and some less optimized than others, why waste money trying to get that ultra max hyper res, less so if your monitor is only capable of that res. I believe an i5 can last more than a few years but that is my personal opinion.

Now, if money is no object why not go for the top of the line.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built... Intel/Nvidia/ASRock
OS
Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate)
CPU
Intel i5-4670K
Motherboard
ASRock Z87 Extreme 6
Memory
8GBs Ripjaws 2133Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GTX660 (2GBs)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer AL2216W
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 SSD 120GBs
Samsung 750GB 32MB cache
1.5 TB
PSU
PC Cooling 750w Silencer
Case
Thermaltake Spedo Advance
Cooling
Std Cooler
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech G9
Internet Speed
Comcast 20Mbit
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Firefox
If you are going Intel, the standard recommendation would be to use RAM in multiples of 4---such as 4, 8, 16; not 6. Insisting on 6 would probably put you in single channel mode, which would mean a slight performance hit.

Assuming this is a desktop machine, I'd question the S series processor because the power savings in the idle or low load state is minimal--and that's where most PCs spend most of their time.

Yep, an i7 is generally considered overkill on a gaming machine unless the extra 60 or 80 buck you pay for it means nothing to you. The incremental advantage for gaming purposes is minimal, but can make sense if you do a lot of video rendering or otherwise use multi-threaded applications much of the time.

You might consider waiting 3 or 4 months to get a look at Intel's new "Skylake" series of processors. They will probably be out in August and will feature i5s, i7s, over clockable K series, non-K series, 35, 65, and 95 watt models. They will likely use DDR4 RAM, which is slightly more expensive than DDR3. You would need a socket 1151 motherboard and they should be appearing shortly as well.

I wouldn't even consider building a new PC without an SSD, which I don't see mentioned in your first post.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
It all depends on budget really. If you're on a budget look at a Z87 motherboard with an i5-4670, an SSD and a better GPU as the 7850 is far from great. Your main grunt from gaming will come from your GPU and an i5 or i7 will get bottlenecked by a 7850. Also a 450W PSU won't power anything higher than a 7850 so you'd need to upgrade that as well, look at Corsair or Seasonic, at least a 550W. 8GB 1600MHz RAM will be plenty for whichever setup you go for.

Post a budget and you'll get more detailed answers.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
CPU
i7-4790k @ 4GHz (4.4GHz Boost)
Motherboard
ASUS Sabertooth Z87 (BIOS Rev 2004)
Memory
16GB DDR3 Kingston HyperX Fury @ 1600MHz CL 9-9-9-27
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Classified
Sound Card
Realtek Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S27D390
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
240GB Intel 520 Series SSD |
Samsung 850 EVO 120GB SSD |
2TB WD Caviar Black |
2TB WD Caviar Black |
2TB WD Caviar Green
PSU
Corsair HX850-80 Gold Modular
Case
Cooler Master Silencio 650
Cooling
Corsair H80i w/2 x Corsair SP120 | 2 x 120mm Noctua NF-S12B
Keyboard
Microsoft Sidewinder X4
Mouse
Gigabyte M6900 optical
Internet Speed
152mb
Antivirus
F-Secure
Browser
Firefox 38.0
Other Info
Backup Rig: Win 7 Pro 64-bit | AMD A10-5800k | ASUS F2A85-V Pro | 8GB Samsung DDR3 @1600MHz | 120GB Toshiba SDD | 2TB Seagate HDD | Cooler Master Silencio 550
stuff that's process-heavy, like say Corel or Photoshop will benefit greatly from the CPU upgrade,
especially when you consider that they are often also making use of the (much faster) GPU RAM to process data..
- you'll probably notice the difference with Microsoft Office, as well..
- if you're building a workhorse, then go for it..

.. an i5 is well capable of handling the vast majority of PC games, though..
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
benchtec, built to personal specs
OS
Windows10 Pro - 64Bit vs.10547
CPU
i7-965 Extreme Edition (8 Cores) at 3.3GHz (no OC)
Motherboard
BloodRageX58 (Socket1366)
Memory
12G Corsair Dominator DDR3 - tripled
Graphics Card(s)
2xAMD SapphireNITRO R9 380(4G) crossfire
Sound Card
Sonar(SB)X-Fi onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster P2050 20"
Screen Resolution
1600x900 (widescreen)
Hard Drives
480G\OCZSolid3SSD, 64G\OCZVertex3SSD,60G\OCZVertex2SSD, 1TB\spinpointF1SATAHDD
PSU
1200w Power Station Gold
Case
ANTEC 900/2 all blue lights, etc..
Cooling
Noctua SE1366 NH-U12P - a tight fit, but a monster cooler!!
Keyboard
Logitech G19 (wired)
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser (wired)
Internet Speed
150mb unlimited
Browser
IE11(RP)
Other Info
Xbox One, Nokia735 Windows10 mobile, LG HD/DVD/Blu-Ray r/w, CyberlinkPowerDVD15, LogitechZ5500-SS(5.1), LogitechG35Phones-SS(7.1),MSOffice 2007,CorelDrawX7,Painter2016, Wacom Intuos Pro-SE
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