PCI intake fans and cooling advice.

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Celeron G630 @ 2.7Ghz6Gb DDR3 1333Mhz1Gb Nvidia Geforce 8400GS
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Celeron G630 @ 2.7Ghz
Motherboard
ASRock H61M-VS
Memory
6Gb DDR3 1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
1Gb Nvidia Geforce 8400GS
Sound Card
Trust SC-5100
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Venturer LCD TV (Main)+ Sony SDM-X52 (Secondary)
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1440x900 + 1240x720
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1Tb Western Digital caviar Green HDD
PSU
250w PSU
Case
CASECOM
Cooling
Arctic Freezer-7 PRO Rev.2
Keyboard
Trust GXT-18
Mouse
Trust GXT-14
not sure if that could get in palce since my card is taller than the normal pci slot (those big heatsinks). Have to say that's a pretty nice idea though, keeping the airflow on the card instead of going past it! I had forgotten about the term "expansion slot", I was generally searching for PCI

I'm not so certain I have the same faith that case designers planned for all. I think some of the problem is being caused by the bi-directional exhaused on my graphics card ducts. Most of the cards these days only pump the air out the back and out of the case, but the inward stream seems to be playing games with my circulation. I don't want all my air bypassing my graphics card either. If I had been able to get my processor fan sideways I would have been better off too.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, Dual onboard WiFi
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ BL2400
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD5001ABYS (4 partitions, including system)
Maxtor 6L250S0
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001
PSU
SilverStone Strider Gold 1000W
Case
Bitfenix Survivor
Cooling
2x200mm Bitfenix Spectre (front inlet, top exhaust)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch-2 Tactile (Oh, it's beautiful)
Mouse
Some cheap optic thing, it works
Internet Speed
depends what country I'm working it, always slow :(
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I hate laptops, and as I've travelled 9500 miles so far lugging my MidiTower around you can't tell me they are more portable!
Now I've got that hint that non geeks still call them "expansion slots" i've found some interesting things.

Intake or outtake aside, this interests me: Vantec ? Vantec Spectrum Fan Card - SP-FC70-BL - System Fan Card with Dual 70mm Adjustable UV LED Fans . I do hate this "LED your life" culture though, why not just go lights of?

This could be the do all solution for dead spots: Amazon.com: Antec SpotCool System Cooler: Electronics I guess this gives me the most choice

If only I could get liquid cooling for VGA cards...
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, Dual onboard WiFi
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ BL2400
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD5001ABYS (4 partitions, including system)
Maxtor 6L250S0
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001
PSU
SilverStone Strider Gold 1000W
Case
Bitfenix Survivor
Cooling
2x200mm Bitfenix Spectre (front inlet, top exhaust)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch-2 Tactile (Oh, it's beautiful)
Mouse
Some cheap optic thing, it works
Internet Speed
depends what country I'm working it, always slow :(
Other Info
I hate laptops, and as I've travelled 9500 miles so far lugging my MidiTower around you can't tell me they are more portable!

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Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1i7-3820GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GBEVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built - Jan 2013
OS
Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
CPU
i7-3820
Motherboard
Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
Memory
GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
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Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
interesting that they are FINALLY getting there. Tubes look pretty short though, barely long enough to take the radiator out of the box (always wondered, just where are you going to stick it? need a water cooling case with a 20x45cm heatsink gently lining the tower roof with a couple of 200mm fans on it, then we are talking)

Of course, it's still a little close to the basic design, just make the cards double sided and heatsink both sides instead of focused on one hot side?

Part of my concern is the old technology still used by ATI. I'm increasingly feeling they've been left standing for a couple of years, and will probably take an Nvidia card next time around for the improved performance vs power. That my card is rates as 350W really does say it all: I don't think I'll ever get a rig that will make is possible to comfortably run that at full pelt, yet slowly games are coming out that finally are pushing the card (no complaint about the performance mind). Still, I'll wait for a general all scale upgrade until Intel get their act together on the scaling of their Ivy Bridge processors for desktops. I'm also interested in the hybrid SLI concept, since undoubtedly CPUs have more space and better positioning for cooling than any graphics card.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, Dual onboard WiFi
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ BL2400
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD5001ABYS (4 partitions, including system)
Maxtor 6L250S0
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001
PSU
SilverStone Strider Gold 1000W
Case
Bitfenix Survivor
Cooling
2x200mm Bitfenix Spectre (front inlet, top exhaust)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch-2 Tactile (Oh, it's beautiful)
Mouse
Some cheap optic thing, it works
Internet Speed
depends what country I'm working it, always slow :(
Other Info
I hate laptops, and as I've travelled 9500 miles so far lugging my MidiTower around you can't tell me they are more portable!
This is what I think of when I think of water cooling:



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Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1i7-3820GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GBEVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built - Jan 2013
OS
Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
CPU
i7-3820
Motherboard
Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 4608
Memory
GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 352.86
Sound Card
On board Realtek ALC898
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S271HL
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
#1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic)
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D
Cooling
Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Keyboard
MS KC-0405
Mouse
Intellimouse 5-button
Internet Speed
56 Mbits/Sec (on a good day)
Antivirus
Avast & Malwarebytes
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X
No one in their right mind would want to pour water on a hard drive, lol. That aside, as I was saying... the rear exhaust fan would help. As for the bigger heatsinks/fans for the cpu, it doesn't really put stress on the motherboard if it's mounted properly. Meaning the motherboard and the heatsink. They wouldn't build big bulky heatsinks if the motherboard couldn't handle it. If that were the case, then these new huge graphics cards would be a bad idea as well. I didn't need all 6 fans I put into my computer, but I wanted to be sure to use the true design of the case and get good airflow. I don't overclock, but I could on air. My processor doesn't go over 40-45 on full load, and that's just off of air.

I'm not sure what case you have, so I'm not sure how many fans you can mount in your case. I do notice the top and rear exhaust, but I don't see any others from the pictures. Putting a fan on the back can help from heating up by exhausting more of the hot air. A new cpu cooler could also help by pushing that warmer air out of the exhaust quicker as well if it gets close to it.

Keep in mind, I'm just suggesting ideas and you can do as you will with them. I've never used a pci cooler, so I'm not sure how well they work.

Hopefully you can figure out a solution soon.
 

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MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHzG.SKILL Ares 8GB (2x4GB)EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 760 Superclocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
MS Windows 7 Professional 64-bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z77-V LK
Memory
G.SKILL Ares 8GB (2x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 760 Superclocked
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
ASUS VN247 24" 1ms
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Mushkin Chronos 120GB SSD (OS), 1TB Seagate HDD (Data)
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850w P1-850B-BEFX
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H100i (cpu) and case fans
Keyboard
Corsair Vengeance K70
Mouse
Corsair Vengeance M60
Internet Speed
1.14 MB/s (9.6 mbps)
Browser
Google Chrome
The 20cm is just about visible on the picture. I didn't put another 12 in the back because I was moving country that day and didn't have time to get any more parts. I'm likely to put something on the back, just need to decide what.

honestly, the bigger heat sinks terrify me. The idea of putting something that heavy on my motherboard and bending it is something i will never do!. The heat sink I got seems to do an exceptional job and it the lightest on the market save the intel stock cooler. it's just that my motherboard has an annoying number of heatsinks around the cpu (probably to exploit the airflow, but even now they don't get warm) I'm certain I couldn't fit most of the bigger heatsinks, I struggled with my one. my next build in a couple years time I'll be quite careful about heatsink locations I think.

Out of interest....did you seriously build your computer caseless? surely you must suffer from dust (although I get you have decent airflow)
LOL, no, it was assembled on my desk to test it before committing to a case since I have had so much trouble with dead ASRock boards.
The cooler I mentioned has a large backplate and is supported very well with no distortion. An added benefit is that some air bleeds out of the fins on the side onto the back side of my GPU card.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No buil...16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GBASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
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4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
the big sinks still terrify me. remember the force on the boards is multiplied by the height of the heatsink. GFX cards are insane, but at least the back slot screw transfers a large portion of the cantilever into the chassis.

That said, that's a new, £15 heatsink on the psu and even hammering it with everything i have i can't get core 0 past 43C or cores 1-3 past 41C. I really have no problems with CPU or exhaust, only with getting air to my GPU
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400
Motherboard
ASUS P5Q3 Deluxe, Dual onboard WiFi
Memory
Corsair DDR3 1333MHz. 8GB (4x2GB, 2 channels)
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire Radeon HD4970 Toxic 1GB
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
BenQ BL2400
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital WD5001ABYS (4 partitions, including system)
Maxtor 6L250S0
Seagate Barracuda ST3000DM001
PSU
SilverStone Strider Gold 1000W
Case
Bitfenix Survivor
Cooling
2x200mm Bitfenix Spectre (front inlet, top exhaust)
Keyboard
Filco Majestouch-2 Tactile (Oh, it's beautiful)
Mouse
Some cheap optic thing, it works
Internet Speed
depends what country I'm working it, always slow :(
Other Info
I hate laptops, and as I've travelled 9500 miles so far lugging my MidiTower around you can't tell me they are more portable!
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