Permissions Nightmare

[Serexx]

Greetings - I jumped from XP to W7 and am having real problems getting my system setup because I keep running into permissions problems when trying to install programs.

Latest example: I downloaded RIA Services 1.0 to use with VS 2010 and Silverlight and, despite the fact that I am the only user on the machine, and should therefore be an Administrator and have set "User Control : Behaviour of the Elevation Prompt for Administrators in Admin Approval Mode" to "Elevate Without Prompting" any attempt to install RiaServices.msi is met with a prompt the I need to obtain permission form an Administrator to install the program.

I have also Disabled "User Account Control: Detect Installations and prompt for Elevation" with no apparent effect.

I have also downloaded and installed the 'Take Ownership' Registry patch and used that to no effect.

I would greatly appreciate some help with this, beyond being referred to the overwhelming abundance of tutorials - the truth is I just have not go the cycles to absorb all of that info at the moment - I just need to get this thing installed and running....

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello Serexx, welcome to Seven Forums!



Have a go at running the installer in "Run as Admin ..." right click the installer and select run as, have a look at the snip below; click the image to enlarge; be sure to post back so we know if it'll work for you.

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[Bare Foot Kid]

If that doesn't work try installing it in compatiliblity mode with XP, right click the installer and select properties at the bottom of the context menu, then select the "Compatibility" button like in this snip below.

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[Serexx]

Thanks for both of those -

On the first one - on my system the context (right-click) menu doesn't show "run as" or "Install as" options, there is only "install"

I also tried compaitbility mode "Run this program in compatibility mode for : Previous Version of Windows" (the only option available).. same result - it tells me I must be administrator

Sorry, back to the drawing board....

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

You are not the system administrator?

 

[WindowsStar]

Serexx, please take a moment to fill out your system specs, please make sure you include the version of Windows 7 you are using (Windows 7 Starter, Home, Professional, Ultimate etc.).

How much tweaking have you done to this system before posting here? If you have done some major changes we may not be able to help you. Once some permissions have been changed or ownership has been taken without full understanding what and how it will impact the system can cause a lot of issues and make it very hard to repair. These changes can give you problems now or will give you many in the future.

 

[Serexx]

thanks - for now I hit the 'aw heck' switch and turned UAC off. With a restart that allowed me to run this particular msi.

Having said that I would like to have UAC back on at some point, so if we can walk through this I would be grateful... here is all the info I have at this point - I have only had the machine for a couple of weeks and have not fiddled much beyond app-based settings.


Windows 7 Pro 64 Bit (OEM From Dell). It is on a two-station Workgroup. In relation to Perms/Ownership I have taken the following steps:

1. Manually "took ownership" of the parent folder and the .msi file itself. That didnt work so

2. downloaded and installed the Microsoft "TakeOwnership" patch (provides 'take ownership' option in r-click menu). Executed on same two objects. No luck so,

3. In local security policy, local policy, security options, user Acclount Control Settings are as shown on the attached screenshot (let me know if it didnt upload).

4. tried your suggestions (thanks)

5. as mentioned turned UAC Off (slider to the bottom) and rebooted

Hope that helps you help me

PS - the Administrator account itself is disabled - I may have turned that off when it first arrived, not sure.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I know you said no tutorials but you'll want to have a look at the one at the link below, this way you can keep UAC at default settings if you choose.


Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create

 

[Serexx]

PS - two items

just noticed the 'my specs' button on the forums page - here is the output from that:
OS Windows 7 Enterprise (x64)
Memory 8GB
Monitor(s) Displays 2 Dell 19" LCD
Screen Resolution 1280x1024

Keyboard Dell
Mouse Dell Optical
Internet Speed 40meg







2. I also just noticed your question as to whether I was not the Sys Admin - I am the only user on the system so I made the ASSumption that I would be in the Administrators Group but maybe not ....

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I know you said no tutorials but you'll want to have a look at the one at the link below, this way you can keep UAC at default settings if you choose.


Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create

Just to make sure you see this.

 

[Serexx]

Hmm, looks like I am Administrator according to the User Account panel... sorry for allt hge sub-posts, I am doing this in between other tasks

 

[Serexx]

wow, I am not used to such quick responses, I keep missing your posts hehe...

I have some stuff to get done today and tomorrow but when that heat is over I will come back and read the tutorial - if I still I have probs I will post again

Thanks!

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

You're welcome, yes, do post back to keep us informed, we'll be here!

 

[Loki]

With UAC enabled you might try this with a .MSI file:

• Open a CMD prompt in Elevated Mode
• drag the MSI install file into the CMD prompt
• hit enter

If that doesn't do it add the /a switch to the command line.

MSI files do not have a right click option to run as Administrator

Hope this helps