Solved Plasma, LCD or LED?

[Wishmaster]

Thanks for the info mate
So how do I recode the audio format? And will it take a long time to do it?

Your getting into a bit of video encoding here .. but provided its only the audio thats a issue ...

I use MeGUI. There may be other programs to this as well, but this how I would do it.

Demux the MKV into RAW streams with something like TS muxer.
Youll have a video and audio file now.

Next, load the DTS file into the Audio portion of MeGUI. Select The Aften AC3 encoder, and choose your bitrate. (448 or 640) Queue it and start it.
Usually takes a couple minutes to recode.

Once done, choose MKV muxer, add the video stream and the AC3 file you just created.
The result will be a MKV file, exactly like the original only using AC3 rather than DTS for audio.

Approx. a 5 minute job.

 

[rraod]

Plasma TV tends to burnout some pixels over a period of time...You might have noticed it on the road side big plasma displays... Also they consume more energy. You can forget Plasma TVs eventhough they are cheaper.

In LCD screens, you can find two types of backlighting, LED and Cold CFL. For this application, LEDs prove to be superior, as each LED behind the LCD screen can be turned on and off independently. Turning the LEDs off, allow the LCD display to create a much darker black than can be achieved in a CFL LCD, where the bulbs cannot be turned off.

I recommend you to go for a LED TV with full HD (1080i), with digital tuner which will be future proof and should give you years of trouble free service.

 

[Zepher]

Plasma TV tends to burnout some pixels over a period of time...You might have noticed it on the road side big plasma displays... Also they consume more energy. You can forget Plasma TVs eventhough they are cheaper.

In LCD screens, you can find two types of backlighting, LED and Cold CFL. For this application, LEDs prove to be superior, as each LED behind the LCD screen can be turned on and off independently. Turning the LEDs off, allow the LCD display to create a much darker black than can be achieved in a CFL LCD, where the bulbs cannot be turned off.

I recommend you to go for a LED TV with full HD (1080i), with digital tuner which will be future proof and should give you years of trouble free service.

Only LED TV's with Local Dimming can do that, most LED TV's are Edge Lit, meaning LED strips along the sides.

LCD's can can have issues with pixels as well, either stuck or dead pixels.

have you checked what the average wattage is on the current crop of LED, LCD, and Plasma TV's?
this is the label on a 50" Panasonic Plasma
$21/year
I'll look for a label for a 55" or larger in a moment.

here is a 55" Plasma
$24/year

this is a toshiba 55" LCD
$53/year

and this is a Vizio LED
$20/year

 

[Mual]

Plasma TV tends to burnout some pixels over a period of time...You might have noticed it on the road side big plasma displays... Also they consume more energy. You can forget Plasma TVs eventhough they are cheaper.

In LCD screens, you can find two types of backlighting, LED and Cold CFL. For this application, LEDs prove to be superior, as each LED behind the LCD screen can be turned on and off independently. Turning the LEDs off, allow the LCD display to create a much darker black than can be achieved in a CFL LCD, where the bulbs cannot be turned off.

I recommend you to go for a LED TV with full HD (1080i), with digital tuner which will be future proof and should give you years of trouble free service.

Well, will it be expensive?
Is consume more energy a problem?

Plasma TV tends to burnout some pixels over a period of time...You might have noticed it on the road side big plasma displays... Also they consume more energy. You can forget Plasma TVs eventhough they are cheaper.

In LCD screens, you can find two types of backlighting, LED and Cold CFL. For this application, LEDs prove to be superior, as each LED behind the LCD screen can be turned on and off independently. Turning the LEDs off, allow the LCD display to create a much darker black than can be achieved in a CFL LCD, where the bulbs cannot be turned off.

I recommend you to go for a LED TV with full HD (1080i), with digital tuner which will be future proof and should give you years of trouble free service.

Only LED TV's with Local Dimming can do that, most LED TV's are Edge Lit, meaning LED strips along the sides.

LCD's can can have issues with pixels as well, either stuck or dead pixels.

have you checked what the average wattage is on the current crop of LED, LCD, and Plasma TV's?
this is the label on a 50" Panasonic Plasma
$21/year
I'll look for a label for a 55" or larger in a moment.

here is a 55" Plasma
$24/year

this is a toshiba 55" LCD
$53/year

and this is a Vizio LED
$20/year

I haven't check any of these...
So what you recommend? A Plasma is okay too?

 

[rraod]

Yes LCD screens can also have dead pixels, due to defects during manufacturing process. The new screens are coming out with very few dead pixels. Also the dead pixels on a LCD happen due to abuse of the screen and not due to normal usage. I have seen LCD screens working for almost 10 years without any problems.

But plasma screens do develop defects with aging.

If you are tight on budget go for Plasma TV. The general opinion is that the life of plasma TV is less compared to LCD TVs.

LED TVs were initially expensive (as usual with any newly released items in market) but now the prices are falling. The quality of LCD and LED is same except that LED is brighter, consumes less energy, and latest in TV screen technology.

Consuming more energy is not a problem... In this age of green revolution people talk about conserving energy and not consuming more energy.

In earlier days of computing... the computer systems were without sleep, standby functions and even the monitors were continuously consuming energy.

The US EPA has imposed conditions on the system manufacturers to be compliant with the Green Star ratings so that the systems save energy when not in use. Now all the laptops and desktops have these energy saving features built in.

Similarly The latest TVs are coming with energy saving features and very soon all the TVs will have these features.

Few people saving energy is not going to affect anything. If everyone in the country becomes conscious about energy saving then it will be good for the country's economy.

 

[Wishmaster]

Both will be a very good choice, and you should be happy with either.
But its really going to come down to what suits you & the enviroment it will be in.

Which is better is really more about personal preference than anything. Some like the brighter image a LED produces, some prefer the more natural image of Plasma.



Few things to consider:

1. Room Size & Vieweing Distance
You need to determine what size you need or want.
IF its under 46" theres no point even thinking Plasma. Go with a LCD/LED TV.
Over 50" then considering a Plasma is worthwhile.

2) Lighting Conditions
If the room you are in is very bright, with lots of sunlight, and this is when you watch TV the most, a LCD/LED might be your best best.
They are Brighter and tend to perform better in very bright enviroment.

If the room has controlled lighting, curtains you can pull, then Plasma will be a good option.


Plasma TVs also tend to reflect light more than a LCD/LED.
If for example, if theres a Window that light can shine through onto the TV, LCD/LED will hide the glare more.

This is because of how they are constructed. LCD/LEDs use a anti-glare Plexi-Glass type screen.
Plasma have a glass screen.

Thats not to say you can not view a Plasma in bright room. Im only saying that LCD/LED tend to be brighter, and do better in such an enviroment, especially if bright light hits them.

3) Color Accuracy
Plasma offer deeper blacks, & more natural richer colors. The image accuracy of a plasma is much better than any LCD/LED can produce.
So when it comes to image quality & accuracy, Plasma wins.
But .. See point 2
Plasma tend to have a more natural, cinematic, tone to them.

4. Energy & Wieght
Either can be wall mounted. But Plasma TVs are heavier. So something to consider if you want to wall mount.
Plasma do use a little more energy than a LCD/LED, so if energy use is a major concern, and you want to go green, LED/LCD wins hands down.
Plasma will also generate slightly more heat.



They both have thier advantages and disadvantages.
But either should last you a very long time, and should be about the same lifespan.

As far as all the other Plasma "problems" .. many of these are simply myths, and untrue.

-They do not require frequent servicing.

-They do not have shorter lifespans. They are 100,000+ hrs to the half life, and can last just as long as any other TV.

-Image Burn In is not a problem.

-They do NOT burn out pixels.
Quote from article:

pixel failure is not only untrue but impossible. "A plasma television isn't like your laptop computer or any other liquid crystal display, in which pixels can fail,"

Link to article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/lawrencebjohnson/2002-12-10-johnson_x.htm

This guy lays out the differences pretty well. Might be worth a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxg1Zk_ZRS8&feature=related LCD vs Plasma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZbiDjznUzc Plasma Myths Debunked


So in short, the 3 main things to consider are:
1) Screen Size 2) Enviroment 3) Which technology looks the best to you personally
The rest is simply myth.

 

[pparks1]

I have both a 60" Plasma and a 46" LCD.
I would say, go with a Plasma if you can. Its far superior Picture-wise.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. It's sad to see manufacturers moving away from Plasma displays. I have 2 LCD's and 1 Plasma and I prefer my Plasma hands down for picture quality. But better blacks, better color accuracy, no motion blur.

What you think of this Panasonic model?
TH-P50U30k?
Is a okay for Plasma?
Some salesmen told me that Plasma is going to be outdated, is is true?

Panasonic in general is pretty good. My LCD is a Panasonic.

I can't sat for sure about Panasonics Plasmas, no personal experience with them as I have a LG Plasma.

Panasonic plasmas are some of the best. That's what I own and I love it. When I was shopping around, at the time, the only superior brand to the Panasonic was the Pioneer Elite..which was about 2-3x the cost. And since that time, Pioneer has gotten out of the tv business so it's not an option now.


As far as heat output on a plasma...they can put off heat..as can LCD/LED. One key component is to have the TV properly calibrated. When TV's are set from the factory, or incorrectly, they are often in "torch-mode" to make them "pop". However, this is often nowhere close to accurate and generally leads to significantly more heat. Get it properly calibrated (either via something like the Digital video essentials disc, or a genuine ISF calibration) and your picture will be outstanding and the set will give off much less heat.

As far as energy usage, comparing my 50" plasma to my older LCD set, my plasma energy consumption costs me an extra $20 a year. Far worth it for the picture quality if you ask me.

 

[Mual]

Yes LCD screens can also have dead pixels, due to defects during manufacturing process. The new screens are coming out with very few dead pixels. Also the dead pixels on a LCD happen due to abuse of the screen and not due to normal usage. I have seen LCD screens working for almost 10 years without any problems.

But plasma screens do develop defects with aging.

If you are tight on budget go for Plasma TV. The general opinion is that the life of plasma TV is less compared to LCD TVs.

LED TVs were initially expensive (as usual with any newly released items in market) but now the prices are falling. The quality of LCD and LED is same except that LED is brighter, consumes less energy, and latest in TV screen technology.

Consuming more energy is not a problem... In this age of green revolution people talk about conserving energy and not consuming more energy.

In earlier days of computing... the computer systems were without sleep, standby functions and even the monitors were continuously consuming energy.

The US EPA has imposed conditions on the system manufacturers to be compliant with the Green Star ratings so that the systems save energy when not in use. Now all the laptops and desktops have these energy saving features built in.

Similarly The latest TVs are coming with energy saving features and very soon all the TVs will have these features.

Few people saving energy is not going to affect anything. If everyone in the country becomes conscious about energy saving then it will be good for the country's economy.

Alright, I got what you mean now
Thanks.

Both will be a very good choice, and you should be happy with either.
But its really going to come down to what suits you & the enviroment it will be in.

Which is better is really more about personal preference than anything. Some like the brighter image a LED produces, some prefer the more natural image of Plasma.



Few things to consider:

1. Room Size & Vieweing Distance
You need to determine what size you need or want.
IF its under 46" theres no point even thinking Plasma. Go with a LCD/LED TV.
Over 50" then considering a Plasma is worthwhile.

2) Lighting Conditions
If the room you are in is very bright, with lots of sunlight, and this is when you watch TV the most, a LCD/LED might be your best best.
They are Brighter and tend to perform better in very bright enviroment.

If the room has controlled lighting, curtains you can pull, then Plasma will be a good option.


Plasma TVs also tend to reflect light more than a LCD/LED.
If for example, if theres a Window that light can shine through onto the TV, LCD/LED will hide the glare more.

This is because of how they are constructed. LCD/LEDs use a anti-glare Plexi-Glass type screen.
Plasma have a glass screen.

Thats not to say you can not view a Plasma in bright room. Im only saying that LCD/LED tend to be brighter, and do better in such an enviroment, especially if bright light hits them.

3) Color Accuracy
Plasma offer deeper blacks, & more natural richer colors. The image accuracy of a plasma is much better than any LCD/LED can produce.
So when it comes to image quality & accuracy, Plasma wins.
But .. See point 2
Plasma tend to have a more natural, cinematic, tone to them.

4. Energy & Wieght
Either can be wall mounted. But Plasma TVs are heavier. So something to consider if you want to wall mount.
Plasma do use a little more energy than a LCD/LED, so if energy use is a major concern, and you want to go green, LED/LCD wins hands down.
Plasma will also generate slightly more heat.



They both have thier advantages and disadvantages.
But either should last you a very long time, and should be about the same lifespan.

As far as all the other Plasma "problems" .. many of these are simply myths, and untrue.

-They do not require frequent servicing.

-They do not have shorter lifespans. They are 100,000+ hrs to the half life, and can last just as long as any other TV.

-Image Burn In is not a problem.

-They do NOT burn out pixels.
Quote from article:

pixel failure is not only untrue but impossible. "A plasma television isn't like your laptop computer or any other liquid crystal display, in which pixels can fail,"

Link to article:
USATODAY.com - Debunking myths about plasma television burnout

This guy lays out the differences pretty well. Might be worth a look.
Plasma or LCD? - YouTube LCD vs Plasma
Plasma "myths" Debunked - YouTube Plasma Myths Debunked


So in short, the 3 main things to consider are:
1) Screen Size 2) Enviroment 3) Which technology looks the best to you personally
The rest is simply myth.

Room Size and Vieweing Distance is not a problem for me.
I usually watch TV without light in the afternoon, but in the night I will switch on the light. Well, is quite bright when I switch on the light because I replace the bulb with different ones...
Color Accuracy and Energy and Weight is not a problem for me too
Thanks for the info, I like the model if tge TV that I asked

I have both a 60" Plasma and a 46" LCD.
I would say, go with a Plasma if you can. Its far superior Picture-wise.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. It's sad to see manufacturers moving away from Plasma displays. I have 2 LCD's and 1 Plasma and I prefer my Plasma hands down for picture quality. But better blacks, better color accuracy, no motion blur.

What you think of this Panasonic model?
TH-P50U30k?
Is a okay for Plasma?
Some salesmen told me that Plasma is going to be outdated, is is true?

Panasonic in general is pretty good. My LCD is a Panasonic.

I can't sat for sure about Panasonics Plasmas, no personal experience with them as I have a LG Plasma.

Panasonic plasmas are some of the best. That's what I own and I love it. When I was shopping around, at the time, the only superior brand to the Panasonic was the Pioneer Elite..which was about 2-3x the cost. And since that time, Pioneer has gotten out of the tv business so it's not an option now.


As far as heat output on a plasma...they can put off heat..as can LCD/LED. One key component is to have the TV properly calibrated. When TV's are set from the factory, or incorrectly, they are often in "torch-mode" to make them "pop". However, this is often nowhere close to accurate and generally leads to significantly more heat. Get it properly calibrated (either via something like the Digital video essentials disc, or a genuine ISF calibration) and your picture will be outstanding and the set will give off much less heat.

As far as energy usage, comparing my 50" plasma to my older LCD set, my plasma energy consumption costs me an extra $20 a year. Far worth it for the picture quality if you ask me.

Got it


I think I will get a Plasma to replace my old TV.

 

[Zepher]

You won't be disappointed with a Plasma.
I've had my Panasonic for 2 years and love it. I just wish it was larger. I went with a 42" for $1000 since that is all I could afford to spend on a TV at the time.

 

[Mual]

You won't be disappointed with a Plasma.
I've had my Panasonic for 2 years and love it. I just wish it was larger. I went with a 42" for $1000 since that is all I could afford to spend on a TV at the time.

Wow, not bad mate.
Thanks for showing me yout Plasma
So the image quality is base on the movie quality?

 

[A Guy]

TweakGuides.com - A Guide to HDTVs

A Guy

P.S. I'm a TV tech

 

[Borg 386]

P.S. I'm a TV tech

Great...come fix our's buddy...:roflmao:

From what I've seen in the local stores, it looks like plasma is not only cheaper (for now), but has a warmer picture. So when we get a new TV we'll go with that probably.

Of course it's my wife that wants a new TV. The thing is, we watch almost all our stuff on the PC....:sarc:

Thanx for the link A Guy

 

[Tarka Dal]

Apparently:

Apparently in the UK Double HDTV is out next year! So consider waiting for this as the pic quality will be hard to beat. Problem is though Double HDTV cameras won't be available for a few more years yet!

 

[djl47]

LED and LCD are the same (both use LCD Panels, just different backlighting).
Plasma has the most natural picture and colors.

Plasma uses a little more power than the other tv's but they have gotten very efficient in the last couple of generations.

To clarify, the flat screens advertised as LED refer to the backlight. LED's have replaced fluorescent tubes as the light source in LCD screens. The only direct LED unit I know of was a madly expensive OLED TV sold in Japan.

Plasma screens have a better picture and they are faster than LCD so when you're watching an action flick you don't get the ghosting you might see on an LCD. As noted they draw more power, they are heavy and the phosphors will eventually degrade just like the phosphors in your old CRT.

Here's a great video on how flat panel LCD displays work

 

[beauparc]

My Hitachi Plasma TV is now about 6 years old and is still running perfectly. As one of the first HD sets on the market it was extremely expensive but has been worth every penny. It's a 37in screen and I have it backed into a bay window to avoid any sunshine on the screen.

The running costs are slightly higher than LCD/LED as everyone says but I think it's worth it.

My daughter has a new Samsung 40in LCD HD, all singing/all dancing TV, and I find it uncomfortable to watch. Seems to me that all LCD TVs have very high contrast settings to try getting rich blacks. Go outside, look around and you won't see high contrast, bright colour scenes. What you will see are mostly pastel shades which are faithfully reproduced in Plasma.

Just my personal opinions, that's all.

 

[Mual]

Thanks for all the info here guys.
I'll go with a Plasma, will take order tomorrow.

 

[Heyyou]

I have both a 60" Plasma and a 46" LCD.
I would say, go with a Plasma if you can. Its far superior Picture-wise.

Both have very good picture quality, unless comparing side by side.
In which case, Plasma is a clear winner by a longshot.

Plasma has better color accuracy IMO. For example:

Flesh tones look more natural. LCD seems to have a orangish tint to them.
Its something you may not notice (I never did) untill compared to a Plasma image.

Plasma seem capable of showing more detail in dark areas as well.

The Plasma does have really dark blacks, dont get me wrong, but its just different. You can see the wrinkles in a black jacket for example, where as they tend to blend in on the LCD.
Hard to explain what I mean .... but LCDs sometimes tend to have reallly dark blacks, but to black at times.

Look at them side by side and you will see.

I agree with what you are saying and would like to add another reason to pick plasma if you have children. If you have ever seen a damaged lcd screen you see that most of the pixels in the damaged area are destroyed in the damaged rows of pixels. I chose to get a plasma because kids throw things and glass is less likely to break from small things hitting it. Six Grandchildren that are prone to throwing toys haven't hit the TV yet.

 

[A Guy]

I agree with what you are saying and would like to add another reason to pick plasma if you have children. If you have ever seen a damaged lcd screen you see that most of the pixels in the damaged area are destroyed in the damaged rows of pixels. I chose to get a plasma because kids throw things and glass is less likely to break from small things hitting it. Six Grandchildren that are prone to throwing toys haven't hit the TV yet.

Seen my share of Wii'd LCD tv's as well

Requires panel replacement costing as much as a new TV. Usually it's a slipped Wii controller or a thrown toy.

A Guy

 

[Wishmaster]

LED and LCD are the same (both use LCD Panels, just different backlighting).
Plasma has the most natural picture and colors.

Plasma uses a little more power than the other tv's but they have gotten very efficient in the last couple of generations.

To clarify, the flat screens advertised as LED refer to the backlight. LED's have replaced fluorescent tubes as the light source in LCD screens. The only direct LED unit I know of was a madly expensive OLED TV sold in Japan.

Plasma screens have a better picture and they are faster than LCD so when you're watching an action flick you don't get the ghosting you might see on an LCD. As noted they draw more power, they are heavy and the phosphors will eventually degrade just like the phosphors in your old CRT.

Here's a great video on how flat panel LCD displays work

Interesting video. Thanks.

 

[linnemeyerhere]

Yes the plasma screens are best for colors and blacks which is crucial for a great picture. The power consumption and heat generated they are far less efficient from today's greener LCD - LED/LCD's.