Problem in Installing Ubuntu with Windows 7

[Akhare1]

I have downloaded 695MB Desktop Edition from it's official website,I'm installing it along with Windows 7 Home?

While Installing I got the following screen first :

allocate drive Space

1) Install alongside other OS
2) Erase and Use the entire disc
3) Specify partitions manually(advanced)

I have chosen Manually Partitioning option(3rd Option).There I got directed to free space option which is Unallocated space that I created in Windows 7.

it shows free space 20973MB

After clicking on free space, I got one window for "Create Partition" which says:

A)Type of new partition 1) Primary 2)Logical (Selected)

B)New Partition size in MB 20972

C)Location for new partition 1)Beginning 2) End Question:Which one to select,1 is selected by default.

D)Use as Ext4 Journalising File System

E)Mount Point /

After pressing "OK " button,I got the following message:

You have not selected any partition for use as swap space

Go Back Continue

Please help me how to select swap spaces.












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[Zidane24]

I have downloaded 695MB Desktop Edition from it's official website,I'm installing it along with Windows 7 Home?

While Installing I got the following screen first :

allocate drive Space

1) Install alongside other OS
2) Erase and Use the entire disc
3) Specify partitions manually(advanced)

I have chosen Manually Partitioning option(3rd Option).There I got directed to free space option which is Unallocated space that I created in Windows 7.

it shows free space 20973MB

After clicking on free space, I got one window for "Create Partition" which says:

A)Type of new partition 1) Primary 2)Logical (Selected)

B)New Partition size in MB 20972

C)Location for new partition 1)Beginning 2) End Question:Which one to select,1 is selected by default.

D)Use as Ext4 Journalising File System

E)Mount Point /

After pressing "OK " button,I got the following message:

You have not selected any partition for use as swap space

Go Back Continue

Please help me how to select swap spaces.












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Kindly leave your email address also so that I can contact you if I encounter any problem after performing your steps

Alrighty then....Ubuntu (linux in general) merely has you create swap space to use in case your ram gets low and it needs to "swap" things out of the ram to the HD. This is identical to the page file located on Windows systems. In most cases if you have 2GB or more RAM for Ubuntu I would safely say you don't need it since the page/swap file is only used when your RAM is being filled to the maximum and objects are not able to be discarded from the RAM to clear space. Ubuntu takes very little memory to begin with....I have never used more than 1.2GB at a time. If you don't want the swap space (I don't use it personally) than just click continue (this has no consequences)

Now....after all of that....if you decide that you WANT the swap space....here is what you do

1. Erase the root partition (you made it as ext4 journaled with / as a mount point)
2. With the new unallocated space, make a 2 GB (I think that is sufficient) partition->Set the type to logical->set the mount point to swap
3. With the remaining space, make the root partition(/) as logical and ext4 journalized
4. OPTIONAL: Make sure to allow the GRUB boot-loader to install to your HD not just the partition that Ubuntu will be on....I have always recommended this as GRUB does a fine job handling pretty much every OS out there. If you choose to keep Windows as the default boot loader, you will have to jump through some hoops with the bcd store (EasyBCD for this) to have Ubuntu be able to boot

 

[Night Hawk]

Hello Akhare1 Welcome to the Seven Forums!

First off the smallest size option if this is the latest 10.10 release is the choice of 3gb. This one is a bit larger in size and wants a bit more drive space then the 9.10 or 10.04 releases. For seeing a custom install on a flash drive made bootable on it's own the second partition(root) was about 4gb in size.

That was also made the mount point "/" by double clicking on the intended root(file system) which then brings up a new popup window for setting the "/" type as well as selecting the file system to be used(ext 2, 3, or 4) and the option to see it formatted.

Note by seeing the root partition made the mount point you avoid seeing Grub installed into and replacing the Windows mbr. Once the install is finished the options for wubi or the NeoGrub option in the EasyBCD program can be directed at the root when the new boot entry is added into the 7 loader.

As far as the "you haven't selected and swap space" you wouldn't even worry since ubuntu runs typically on less then 512mb of memory with that being an option. The installation will still go on as long as the root is over 3gb.

The swap file is one thing present on the root that accomidates the virtual memory when no swap partition is present. Depending on how your partitions are layed out and the amount of drive space you are working with you can simply add a separate 2-4gb extended type(not primary) swap partition after the root.

 

[Pusspa]

can i suggest trying linux with virtualbox first? then if you like it you can make a dual boot, but if you don't it is much easier to delete.
Downloads - VirtualBox

 

[Akhare1]

Well,I have installed successfully Ubuntu in one of my Manually created partition of 20GB.

But it's showing free space of only 1.8 GB.

I selected Drive Size as 19 GB while installing.

I followed the following video from the you tube.Please refer to it and let me know how to use 20 GB partition efficiently.

YouTube - Installing ubuntu using wubi on Windows 7

Youtube Title is :
Installing ubuntu using wubi on Windows 7



By :JonnoTheBonno


Thanks

 

[Zidane24]

That guy in that video is an IDIOT (sorry but it is true)

Wubi exists to allow someone to use Ubuntu without making additional partitions....*sigh* *facepalm* at the guy in the video

/rantover

First go to add/remove programs and remove wubi
Second go to the disk partitioning area you originally made the partitions at and remove the ubuntu partition AND the swap space partition (if you made it)
Third extend the Windows 7 partition with the unallocated space gained from the deleted partition (s)
Fourth rerun the wubi setup and follow the onscreen instructions.
Fifth reboot the computer and choose ubuntu in the boot menu

 

[Akhare1]

That guy in that video is an IDIOT (sorry but it is true)

Wubi exists to allow someone to use Ubuntu without making additional partitions....*sigh* *facepalm* at the guy in the video

/rantover

First go to add/remove programs and remove wubi
Second go to the disk partitioning area you originally made the partitions at and remove the ubuntu partition AND the swap space partition (if you made it)
Third extend the Windows 7 partition with the unallocated space gained from the deleted partition (s)
Fourth rerun the wubi setup and follow the onscreen instructions.
Fifth reboot the computer and choose ubuntu in the boot menu

But that video helped me in installing Ubuntu and it's working fine except the space problem.


Could you please write down the steps to perform after deleting Ubuntu:

Detailed step by step guidance would be highly appreciated.

 

[Zidane24]

That guy in that video is an IDIOT (sorry but it is true)

Wubi exists to allow someone to use Ubuntu without making additional partitions....*sigh* *facepalm* at the guy in the video

/rantover

First go to add/remove programs and remove wubi
Second go to the disk partitioning area you originally made the partitions at and remove the ubuntu partition AND the swap space partition (if you made it)
Third extend the Windows 7 partition with the unallocated space gained from the deleted partition (s)
Fourth rerun the wubi setup and follow the onscreen instructions.
Fifth reboot the computer and choose ubuntu in the boot menu

But that video helped me in installing Ubuntu and it's working fine except the space problem.


Could you please write down the steps to perform after deleting Ubuntu:

Detailed step by step guidance would be highly appreciated.

First tell me one of two things....

Do you want to install Ubuntu with Wubi (no partition changes...you can easily remove it with add/remove programs in Windows)?

OR

Do you want to install Ubuntu to your computer's hard disk drive (in its' own partition). This will also allow you to have a swap space (if you want it) AND have the grub bootloader instead of the Windows bootloader

Once you reply with your choice I will list out all the steps for you

 

[Akhare1]

That guy in that video is an IDIOT (sorry but it is true)

Wubi exists to allow someone to use Ubuntu without making additional partitions....*sigh* *facepalm* at the guy in the video

/rantover

First go to add/remove programs and remove wubi
Second go to the disk partitioning area you originally made the partitions at and remove the ubuntu partition AND the swap space partition (if you made it)
Third extend the Windows 7 partition with the unallocated space gained from the deleted partition (s)
Fourth rerun the wubi setup and follow the onscreen instructions.
Fifth reboot the computer and choose ubuntu in the boot menu

But that video helped me in installing Ubuntu and it's working fine except the space problem.


Could you please write down the steps to perform after deleting Ubuntu:

Detailed step by step guidance would be highly appreciated.

First tell me one of two things....

Do you want to install Ubuntu with Wubi (no partition changes...you can easily remove it with add/remove programs in Windows)?

OR

Do you want to install Ubuntu to your computer's hard disk drive (in its' own partition). This will also allow you to have a swap space (if you want it) AND have the grub bootloader instead of the Windows bootloader

Once you reply with your choice I will list out all the steps for you

I want to install Ubuntu in a separate partition of my HDD.Just like I have Windows 7 installed on my Hard Drive.

Please list all the steps starting from the very basic as I'm not adept in it!!

Thanks

adarsh

 

[Zidane24]

One last thing....do you want to use the GRUB bootloader or the Windows bootloader?

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

Hello Akhare1, welcome to Seven Forums



If you tie Windows to Ubuntu with Grub, you will have issues when/if you want to remove Ubuntu, just thought you should know the facts before you get too far in this.

 

[Akhare1]

One last thing....do you want to use the GRUB bootloader or the Windows bootloader?

I don't have any cognizance regarding these two loaders.Basically ,for what purpose there are used.Is it required.Which one would you recommend ??

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

You did see this correct?

Hello Akhare1, welcome to Seven Forums



If you tie Windows to Ubuntu with Grub, you will have issues when/if you want to remove Ubuntu, just thought you should know the facts before you get too far in this.

 

[Akhare1]

You did see this correct?

Hello Akhare1, welcome to Seven Forums



If you tie Windows to Ubuntu with Grub, you will have issues when/if you want to remove Ubuntu, just thought you should know the facts before you get too far in this.

I'll be removing Ubuntu in near future and hence I don't want any issues with Windows.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I'll be removing Ubuntu in near future and hence I don't want any issues with Windows.

Don't use Grub then or you will have issues removing Grub from Windows, just keep it as you have it using Wubi, then it can be removed as needed.

 

[Akhare1]

I'll be removing Ubuntu in near future and hence I don't want any issues with Windows.

Don't use Grub then or you will have issues removing Grub from Windows, just keep it as you have it using Wubi, then it can be removed as needed.

Okay then,It's time for you to write down the steps,please.
I'm waiting!!

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I don't do Linux so I can't help you, ask the Resident Linux Expert.

 

[Akhare1]

I don't do Linux so I can't help you, ask the Resident Linux Expert.

You asked me so many questions as if you were about to tell me the steps for Ubuntu installation.

Now you are saying that you are not proficient in it.What happened?

Why did you ask me so many questions then?

Tell me!!

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

I don't do Linux so I can't help you, ask the Resident Linux Expert.

You asked me so many questions as if you were about to tell me the steps for Ubuntu installation.

Now you are saying that you are not proficient in it.What happened?

Why did you ask me so many questions then?

Tell me!!

I wanted to make sure you knew adding Linux/Grub to Windows would be very difficult to remove later because others that were suggesting you do this were not warning you of the possible difficulties.

I haven't used Linux enough to assist you in its installation, I just don't like to see people proficient with something advocating use without sufficient warning of the possible side-effects.

 

[Zidane24]

I don't do Linux so I can't help you, ask the Resident Linux Expert.

You asked me so many questions as if you were about to tell me the steps for Ubuntu installation.

Now you are saying that you are not proficient in it.What happened?

Why did you ask me so many questions then?

Tell me!!

I wanted to make sure you knew adding Linux/Grub to Windows would be very difficult to remove later because others that were suggesting you do this were not warning you of the possible difficulties.

I haven't used Linux enough to assist you in its installation, I just don't like to see people proficient with something advocating use without sufficient warning of the possible side-effects.

Sorry about this folks....still recovering from my kidney issues and had to break from the forums for a while yesterday

First off I didn't warn him of the possible issues (even though you are right Ted) because he already installed the GRUB bootloader since that guy in the video makes no mention of not doing so and the default choice in Ubuntu's installation is to install the GRUB bootloader. If you look back to my original post I did make a mention that it was optional but then realized at this point it was to late

Now....not to worry over spilled milk or anything...lets get down to business

To recap...

• You installed Ubuntu Linux to a seperate partition while also installing the GRUB bootloader to the MBR
• You mention that you will be removing Ubuntu in the future....this will have some complications in the form of making your computer un-bootable.

....that covers pretty much everything right? Lets fix it so you can remove Ubuntu when you want to, still boot into Ubuntu, and keep the computer bootable to at least Windows alright?

• First - go back to Ubuntu's setup
• Second - on the partitioner screen, format your Ubuntu partition
• Third - choose the formatted partition and set the mount point to "/". You may ignore the swap space as you really don't need it
• Fourth - in the last box on this screen it will ask you where you want to install the GRUB bootloader. Select the partition that you formatted and are going to use for Ubuntu's installation...This is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
• Fifth - continue with setup as normal. Restart when it tells you to
• Sixth - boot into Windows and download this application: http://neosmart.net/downloads/software/EasyBCD/EasyBCD 2.0.2.exe
• Seventh - run EasyBCD (application you just installed) -> choose "Bootloader Setup" -> choose the top radio option at the bottom -> click "Write MBR"
• Eigth - now in the same application, choose "Add New Entry" -> Linux/BSD -> choose "Grub 2" in the drop down list -> In the Name field, name it "Ubuntu Linux" -> click "Add Entry"
• Ninth - close the application and reboot. You should be able to see both Windows 7 and Ubuntu Linux on the list. You will be able to boot into both with no issue

Whew.....that was alot wasn't? Lets summarize what I had you do

• Installed Ubuntu to its own partition
• Placed the GRUB bootloader ONLY in the Ubuntu partition (allows you to boot Ubuntu without affecting Windows)
• Re-wrote Windows' Bootloader to the MBR
• Placed an entry on the Windows' Bootloader so you can boot Ubuntu and Windows

Now if you remove Ubuntu in the future...nothing will change. you can still boot into Windows with no issue.

I hope this helps,
Chris