Problem installing/running Windows Defender Offline

dbish

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Greetings all,

I currently am using Avast AV on my Win 7 64 bit machine. No known problems. I decided to try out the Windows Defender Offline 64 bit version. Downloaded 800k file and ran which prompted me to insert blank CD and it then downloaded and expanded the files onto the CD. All seemed to work fine.

Next, I rebooted from the CD and I got the white bar (progress meter) along the bottom which said "Windows is loading files". Took couple of minutes. One time it made it about 90% through loading. Next time it made to where it said starting Windows. THEN...

It appears the video signal to my monitors dies (which means computer freezes??). Screen went to black and I got a couple of Samsung monitor error boxes (Analog/Digital/Analog/Digital) on the screen which the monitor does when no video feed. Then the monitor went into powersaving mode since no feed. The computer's hard drive light was flashing once about every two seconds. Once I left it for about 90 minutes in this state and it never moved on.

So, ideas? Do I need to run MSE as my AV program with Windows defender? Bad install? Anything else?

Thanks

dbish
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 Home
So you had to recover by using the physical power button or Ctrl/Alt/Del?

Bad burn?
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Hard hold down on the power button. Ctrl-Alt-Del did nothing. The computer came up just fine.
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 Home

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP pavilion DV6
OS
win7 home premium-64bit-SP1-IE10
CPU
T6600 2.2Ghz
Motherboard
HP Model 3628
Memory
4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
500Gb Western Digital
Antivirus
MSE
Other Info
Malwarebytes Antimalware + Spybot-Search&Destroy
Unless newer versions of Win 7 are different than the original release:

Windows Defender is built into Windows 7, so it is compatible.
It gets turned off when the optional (MSSE) MS Security Essentials AV is installed.
Windows Defender protection is part of MSSE protection.

Installing another AV such as Avast does not turn off Windows Defender...
I have a PC with Avast AV and Windows Defender enabled.
No problems here.

I see Windows Defender listed in Control Panel...take a look...

I never used Windows Defender Offline, so I can't help with that.

no disrespect intended
regards, david
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
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Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
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Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
My understanding is that Windows Defender Offline is a renaming of MSSS.

Windows Secrets review:
Windows Defender Offline

I am just trying it to improve rootkit detection.
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 Home
Cool, thanks for the link. It's interesting reading.
To me it sounds like MS is re-using the Windows Defender name and this is in a "Transition Phase" right now.
Windows Defender Offline is nothing like Windows Defender...but not yet ready to replace MSE.

Anyway, to make sure I understand correctly,
your problem is you tried Windows Defender Offline,
you had an issue starting windows the FIRST time after WDO, but now everything works.
You can now boot and start Windows OK?

Using Avast + Windows Defender should not be a problem...
MSE should also work ok, but Windows Defender is not needed with this.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
Sorry
I didn't intend to mean that is not compatible but when MSSE is downloaded WD will be turned off.
Thank you David and sorry again.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP pavilion DV6
OS
win7 home premium-64bit-SP1-IE10
CPU
T6600 2.2Ghz
Motherboard
HP Model 3628
Memory
4 Gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Screen Resolution
1366x768 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
500Gb Western Digital
Antivirus
MSE
Other Info
Malwarebytes Antimalware + Spybot-Search&Destroy
Sorry, i misunderstood :o
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I'm pretty sure this compatability issue is not really related to the OP's problem (unless I misunderstood - which is not unusual :o), because the OP is trying to boot off of a CD or DVD and therefore not even loading the installed OS. It's going to load the OS contained on the CD/DVD itself. So as long as the bootable CD/DVD can read the filesystems of his internal drives he should be good to go.

I think I would look at the burn (use something like ImgBurn The Official ImgBurn Website, 4x max), quality of CD/DVD media, and integrity of the iso that was downloaded.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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